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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
"I find a lot of these employer complaints are from companies wanting something for nothing above their idea of market value."

True, in an economic downturn employers are all too willing to lower the payscales in hopes that desperate folks will accept anything even remotely close to their needs.

My current employer uses this "rationale" to explain why we aren't getting raises or higher raises. Granted, it's their prerogative whether I get one or not, but don't attempt to insult my intelligence by lying to me about it.

In my experience, I've seen that when there's a surplus of labor, the rates go down. When there's a shortage, the rates go up.

I do recall my shop classes quite fondly. About the only classes I took where I felt that I actually learned something of value.

10 posted on 11/28/2011 10:00:58 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian; MontaniSemperLiberi

Most employers know very little about managing people and they don’t want to either. They know the cost of everything and the value of almost nothing.

They want top shelf people for bottom dollar price and then they wonder why they are unhappy and leave for the next better opportunity.


30 posted on 11/28/2011 10:36:59 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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