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To: jessduntno
How many candidates we got that have done this?

Yes, he worked with Reagan. But, he also supported TARP, supported the federal mandate for me to purchase (insert item/service here), supported Cap/Trade, had an affair with a federal subordinate, has problems keeping the most sacred vows made to his multiple wives, and effectively threw Paul Ryan under the bus this year and last week.

I can keep going, but these are my main issues with Newt, with the support of the main pillar of Obamacare being the biggest. Will I vote for him if he's the nominee? Probably. But as of right now, I cannot support him. But, I don't think it will come to that, as he has no organization, no money, and has missed ballot deadlines for the primary.

21 posted on 12/04/2011 2:30:41 PM PST by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: GOPyouth

” But, he also supported TARP, supported the federal mandate for me to purchase (insert item/service here), supported Cap/Trade, had an affair with a federal subordinate, has problems keeping the most sacred vows made to his multiple wives, and effectively threw Paul Ryan under the bus this year and last week.”

And all this while voting on it? Which office was he holding?

Those are very simple statements made about matters that were a little more complex.

Why is it that we are so focused on what this man did off the field than on the field? Would he have had the same reactions? I don’t know. I really don’t. Would deeper insight or knowledge of the conditions changed his opinion? I don’t know, but he wasn’t in that position, either.

Would any of the others? I don’t know. I really don’t. But I do know what they have accomplished in office by looking at voting records and movements they led, pieces of legislation they have passed and large scale revolutions they have led.

That answer is none that I know of. I’m sure they are all much nicer people and Newt is a bastard, though, because that’s what everyone says.

Let’s elect a nice person. They always finish....


26 posted on 12/04/2011 2:41:36 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: GOPyouth
"I can keep going, but these are my main issues with Newt, with the support of the main pillar of Obamacare being the biggest."

He did not support Obamacare. You need to research that a bit, I think. As far as Ryan's statement, I think he makes a valid point; why does a mandate from the right make it any less a mandate? And I believe that if you are not going to cover yourself for insurance, holding the taxpayer blameless is a good idea. "In some way..." That is a far cry from a mandate.

“I agree that all of us have a responsibility to help pay for health care. And I think that there are ways to do it that make most libertarians relatively happy,” Mr. Gingrich told the host David Gregory. “I’ve said consistently, where there’s some requirement you either have health insurance or you post a bond or in some way you indicate you’re going to be held accountable.”

Mr. Gingrich also said on the show that he’s uncomfortable with the proposed changes to Medicare in the budget put forth by Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the chairman of the House budget committee.

“I don’t think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering,” Mr. Gingrich said Sunday. “I don’t think imposing radical change from the right or the left is a very good way for a free society to operate.”

That brought a quick retort from Mr. Ryan on Monday morning, who asked on a conservative radio program, “With allies like that, who needs the left?”

Rick Tyler, a spokesman for Mr. Gingrich, sought to soften his boss’s comments. In an e-mail to The Weekly Standard, Mr. Tyler wrote that “there is little daylight between Ryan and Gingrich.”

“But look how it gets reported,” Mr. Tyler continued. “Newt would fully support Ryan if it were not compulsory. We need to design a better system that people will voluntarily move to. That is a major difference in design but not substance.”

The problem we face more than anything else is in our own willingness to believe how things are reported or to suspend belief until we hear clarification from the individual. The old lies about his dumping his wife on her death bed have been repeated so often even his own daughter's statements clearing that up are being called false.

36 posted on 12/04/2011 3:08:58 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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