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Final Medical Loss Ratio Rule Rebuffs Insurance Agents
Kaiser ^ | 12/2/11 | Julie Appleby

Posted on 12/06/2011 3:29:15 PM PST by Nachum

The Obama administration issued a rule today that is sure to disappoint insurance agents: Fees paid to brokers and agents won’t count as medical care, under limits imposed on insurers in the 2010 federal health law.

Photo by Thomas Hawk via Flickr

That’s key because under the health law, insurers must spend at least 80 percent of their premium revenue on medical care and quality improvement – or issue rebates to consumers. The target is 85 percent for large-group issuers.

Brokers had lobbied hard to have their fees exempted from the calculation of administrative costs, which also includes such expenses as marketing and executive salaries, saying that without such a move, commissions will be cut and agents could lose their jobs, leaving consumers without as much access to brokers who help them choose health insurance.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: final; loss; medical; ratio
And now your insurance agent will join the ranks of the unemployed.
1 posted on 12/06/2011 3:29:23 PM PST by Nachum
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The list, Ping

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2 posted on 12/06/2011 3:33:00 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Wage & price controls, Obama style . . . drip, drip, drip . . . the Rats are relentlessly killing capitalism, private property rights and freedom one law and reg at a time. The frog is not too far from being boiled.


3 posted on 12/06/2011 3:33:14 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Nachum

With Mini-Madoff Obama in office - we are all going to be unemployed.


4 posted on 12/06/2011 3:33:52 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Nachum
That’s key because under the health law, insurers must spend at least 80 percent of their premium revenue on medical care and quality improvement

Under what clause in the United States Constitution is permission given to the Federal government to force a company or corporation to spend ANY money?

Un-freaking-believable.

5 posted on 12/06/2011 3:44:19 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Nachum

Risk escalation for pre-existing and adverse selection will wipe out all existing reserves.

When actuarially sound underwriting is prohibited - private health insurance is done and gone. Government confiscation by any other name.

Jobs eliminated: Competitive marketing & sales personnel. Underwriters. Actuaries. Claims examiners. Risk managers and financial services.


6 posted on 12/06/2011 4:36:54 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats and newtralize the RINOS - the Senate, House & WHouse)
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To: rarestia

The same part that says they can fine you if you don’t buy a certain product from a private company. The commerce clause says they can pretty much do anything they want to, or at least their interpretation of it says they can. If they can fine you for not having health insurance, they can order you to do anything they want you to. Gas prices are too high? You must buy a Chevy Leaf. Newspapers are dying? You must buy a daily paper every day. Next they’ll say that we aren’t allowed to profit from our jobs at all. I was on DU last night and someone wanted to make interest on loans illegal. At least they’re consistant.


7 posted on 12/06/2011 4:37:02 PM PST by christx30
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To: Nachum

I am not understanding this, but it sounds to me like 20% of premiums paid out should be coming back to policy holders?


8 posted on 12/06/2011 5:36:06 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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‘I am not understanding this, but it sounds to me like 20% of premiums paid out should be coming back to policy holders?’

Not like that. The companies, by law, must pay out a minimum of 80% of all revenues in claims, if not, the company must rebate any extra to consumers.


9 posted on 12/06/2011 6:34:53 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

>>‘I am not understanding this, but it sounds to me like 20% of premiums paid out should be coming back to policy holders?’<<

>Not like that. The companies, by law, must pay out a minimum of 80% of all revenues in claims, if not, the company must rebate any extra to consumers.<

so - what is not spent on claims, has to go back then up to 20% right?


10 posted on 12/07/2011 4:58:49 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

‘so - what is not spent on claims, has to go back then up to 20% right?’

back up? I am not sure what that means. Imagine it as 80 cents out of every dollar paid out, by law, in claims. The company gets to keep 20 cents. Any more must be returned to the policy holder.

It is the death of private insurance. It destroys the profit margin of the industry and the commission structure for sales. The profit margin of the large insurance carriers is approx. 3 to 5% of premium or less. Now there will be little or no profit. The companies have already begun to drop out of the market. It is a matter of time until they all do if Obamacare remains law.


11 posted on 12/07/2011 9:04:15 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

anyway to screw them down more and more. and make his game the only one in town.


12 posted on 12/07/2011 7:11:06 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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