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Officials Confirm Authenticity of Iranian TV Images Showing Lost U.S. Drone
Fox News ^ | 8 DEC 11 | Jennifer Griffin-Fox

Posted on 12/09/2011 6:32:13 AM PST by Amigo04

Edited on 12/09/2011 6:59:37 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

U.S. officials have confirmed to Fox News that images aired by Iranian state television do in fact show the secret U.S. drone that went down last week in eastern Iran.


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TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: drone; iran; rq170
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1 posted on 12/09/2011 6:32:20 AM PST by Amigo04
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To: Amigo04

It looks like a truck delivered it.


2 posted on 12/09/2011 6:36:27 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up)
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To: Amigo04

They will be flying over Washington.


3 posted on 12/09/2011 6:37:18 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Newt Year!)
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To: Amigo04

That this could happen just leaves me speechless. You’d think at the very least they’d have some sort self-destruct mechanism on the thing. That our idiot of a president would not send in people to trash the thing shows how far our present government has dragged us down.


4 posted on 12/09/2011 6:37:44 AM PST by whershey
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To: Amigo04

he was given 3 op choices, go get it, destroy it, or leave it .......... oh great one chose to give it to them


5 posted on 12/09/2011 6:42:54 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: ILS21R
It looks like a truck delivered it.

Straight from the factory.

6 posted on 12/09/2011 6:44:06 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up)
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To: Amigo04

Think Russians might have helped?:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2817786/posts


7 posted on 12/09/2011 6:49:34 AM PST by Amigo04
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To: Amigo04

We use the front grills from 1978 Camaros in our drones?


8 posted on 12/09/2011 6:51:23 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Amigo04

“The official said there are real fears the Iranians will share this technology with the Russians and the Chinese”

Captain Obvious.


9 posted on 12/09/2011 6:52:45 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: ILS21R

It was designed to land on its own if lost.

We delivered it by air.


10 posted on 12/09/2011 6:53:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Amigo04
"Yep, that's it," one senior official told Fox News. "And it's intact."

I tell ya', THAT guy has amazing powers of observation...

11 posted on 12/09/2011 6:53:21 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Amigo04

It looks fake to me; the intake vent came off a 1955 Chrysler, and seems smaller in scale (to the folks standing around it) than other images of the craft that were previously leaked/posted. Regardless, Iran has their next PR coup, thanks to our President’s backdoor effort to kiss their backdoor ...


12 posted on 12/09/2011 6:56:30 AM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: Amigo04
Ahmadinejad to Obama: Thank you for gift of infidel technology Imam Obama. Can you send up the operating manual?
13 posted on 12/09/2011 6:59:39 AM PST by Truth29
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To: SF_Redux
he was given 3 op choices, go get it, destroy it, or leave it .......... oh great one chose to give it to them

Obama......Heads I deny its ours....

.................Tails I ignore it

Senior advisor (to self) ...and your chances of re-election same as the coin landing on it's edge.

14 posted on 12/09/2011 7:00:52 AM PST by spokeshave
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To: WayneS
If that's the real thing, I'm a Obama voter.
15 posted on 12/09/2011 7:03:28 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Amigo04
On the other hand, unnamed sources told CNN this AM that sat photos show the drone as a pile of rubble ... Also Frank Gafnee was reported to have called the Iranian image “a carnival float ... with drooping wings”.

There are several different images floating around of a UAV designated RQ 170 ...

Either the Iranians have succeeded in placing a mole in the CIA/USAF groups which operate the UAVs, thereby obtaining flight plans, decrypted command codes, auto-destruct overrides, and so on - or the Russian/Chinese have done the same and supplied the info to the Iranians, else it is a huge disinformation campaign ...

16 posted on 12/09/2011 7:05:21 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: P-Marlowe; jazusamo; Lancey Howard; Amigo04

How stupid these officials are. You never confirm or deny the loss of intel. At least you make your enemy hesitant.

Here’s hoping that the downed UAV was a plant with major intentional misdirections in it.

Or, perhaps it was Obama’s gift of a delivery system for Iranian WMDs intentionlly brought to earth fully intact. (Wonder what he’d get in exchange for that? “Impossible!” you say. Now that Fast and Furious proves the Govt will commit murders to injure the 2nd amendment, I’m comfortable believing they’ll give islamics weapons to use against Israel.)


17 posted on 12/09/2011 7:10:25 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Amigo04

The drone would be a great way to get more malware onto Iran computers. Load the drone with computer viruses and obsolete or deliberately misleading technology and accidentally crash it.

Even if that wasn’t the case, if you could start the rumor, hopefully the Iranians would get a little nervous about hooking their computers up to the thing.


18 posted on 12/09/2011 7:26:15 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Amigo04

You would think it would have a self destruct device for this type of circumstance...


19 posted on 12/09/2011 7:30:28 AM PST by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: Amigo04

Some presidents would not hesitate to destroy it right now.


20 posted on 12/09/2011 7:35:00 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: cripplecreek

The technical term is glide :)

On loss of power the drone glided to earth

What we don’t know is the glide ratio


21 posted on 12/09/2011 7:37:17 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Amigo04

I can vouch for the authenticity of the captured RQ-170. Why are we hiding the landing gear and the complete underside? Don't worry about it. Go watch Oprah now.

22 posted on 12/09/2011 7:48:33 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up)
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To: KosmicKitty
The drone would be a great way to get more malware onto Iran computers. Load the drone with computer viruses and obsolete or deliberately misleading technology and accidentally crash it. Even if that wasn’t the case, if you could start the rumor, hopefully the Iranians would get a little nervous about hooking their computers up to the thing

No. It would not.

For crap's sake people. This is not Jeff Golblum hooking up his Macbook laptop to an alien spaceship via USB and uploading a virus from the WOPR.

Plug-n-Play has confused the masses.

23 posted on 12/09/2011 7:50:08 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: bert

I have these questions.
These are programed to return to base if they lose connection. How was this changed?

These are not able to be tracked by radar. How was it found?

This is not damaged. who and how did they land it?

I can not tell you how big a deal this is on so many levels. The communication encryption in these is priceless. If someone has cracked that it is going to be a very expensive retrofit on many levels.

I have to believe someone in the ISI,Egypt or the White House has provided the Russians with this info.


24 posted on 12/09/2011 7:55:49 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: xzins

I have another theory.

About 2-3 months ago, I read about how the US connection into the drones were hacked into and that we temporarily lost control of a few drones.

It seems to that this incident may have been a test and now the unknown hacker has finally figured out what to do with this access.

I hope the military has solved this issue; this could be much worse if it was turned on our own troops.


25 posted on 12/09/2011 8:00:38 AM PST by jefferson31415
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To: jefferson31415

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/drone-virus-kept-quiet/

Officials at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada knew for two weeks about a virus infecting the drone “cockpits” there. But they kept the information about the infection to themselves — leaving the unit that’s supposed to serve as the Air Force’s cybersecurity specialists in the dark. The network defenders at the 24th Air Force learned of the virus by reading about it in Danger Room.

The virus, which records the keystrokes of remote pilots as their drones fly over places like Afghanistan, is now receiving attention at the highest levels; the four-star general who oversees the Air Force’s networks was briefed on the infection this morning. But for weeks, it stayed (you will pardon the expression) below the radar: a local problem that local network administrators were determined to fix on their own.

“It was not highlighted to us,” says a source involved with Air Force network operations. “When your article came out, it was like, ‘What is this?’”

The drones are still flying over warzones from Afghanistan to Pakistan to Yemen. There’s no sign, yet, that the virus either damaged any of the systems associated with the remotely piloted aircraft or transmitted sensitive information outside the military chain of command — although three military insiders caution that a full-blown, high-level investigation into the virus is only now getting underway.


26 posted on 12/09/2011 8:05:48 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: sam_paine

Plug and PLay worked for stuxnet


27 posted on 12/09/2011 8:07:32 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

No. It did not. That was not the vector, Victor.


28 posted on 12/09/2011 8:11:49 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: cripplecreek
It was designed to land on its own if lost.

So, if lost, it was designed to wind up in enemy hands in pristine condition?

Might call that a minor design flaw.

29 posted on 12/09/2011 8:21:43 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Amigo04
Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.
30 posted on 12/09/2011 8:25:04 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Amigo04
Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.
31 posted on 12/09/2011 8:25:35 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Amigo04
Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.
32 posted on 12/09/2011 8:26:07 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I realize they’re expensive but handing the technology to our enemies is an incalculable loss.

My only hope is that the electronics were designed to fry themselves which is where the real secret stuff is.


33 posted on 12/09/2011 8:26:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Amigo04
Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.
34 posted on 12/09/2011 8:27:45 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: SF_Redux

The media continues to protect this POS. He allowed Iran to have our technology because he didn’t want to destroy it. Can we survive this a-hole?


35 posted on 12/09/2011 8:50:24 AM PST by maineman (BC EAGLES FAN)
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To: whershey
That this could happen just leaves me speechless. You’d think at the very least they’d have some sort self-destruct mechanism on the thing. That our idiot of a president would not send in people to trash the thing shows how far our present government has dragged us down.

its almost like serving up our technology on a platter ...unintentionally of course /sarcasm>

.

36 posted on 12/09/2011 8:54:46 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: WayneS
We use the front grills from 1978 Camaros in our drones?

And it could use some 1963 Corvette rear bumpers to dress it up.

I thought this was confirmed as a fake. There's another FR thread about it. It cratered, not landed intact.

Iranian modelmakers had a field day.

37 posted on 12/09/2011 8:58:58 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: Amigo04
Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel. When they try to apply what they reverse engineer out of it into home grown copies and they start feeding intel to the US, what kind of intel coup would that be. Who knows what little malware goodies have been planted into the thing waiting to be uploaded.
38 posted on 12/09/2011 9:02:24 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Tonytitan
Here's another possibility: LockMart built this as a Trojan Horse intending it to be landed in hostile territory and captured/analyzed by foreign intel.

I'm wishing that the pentagon built it, and with an enormous thermo-nuclear warhead inside, that is now ticking down to a very large glass parking lot construction event.
39 posted on 12/09/2011 9:08:13 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: crosslink

My analysis is that as they said, or i think i read they said, it ran out of fuel loitering over a selected area. Out of fuel it can still fly by gliding to a landing. That can be controlled or uncontrolled, we don’t know which.

If the radio link were lost it could continue to fly till ran out of gas. It could then glide down to a belly landing and not actually “crash”

bottom line though, we don’t know and likely will never know what really happened


40 posted on 12/09/2011 9:13:41 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: whershey
That this could happen just leaves me speechless.

Yep its equivalent to the USSR getting a hold of a fully functual SR-71 in the early 1960s.

41 posted on 12/09/2011 9:18:22 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Amigo04

China and Russia already bidding for this, no doubt.

Why can’t there be a ‘self-destruct’ mechanism in this ‘high value’ piece of equipment?


42 posted on 12/09/2011 9:31:47 AM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Amigo04

Has anyone wondered if we have some traitors inside the Air Force who “delivered” the drone to the Iranians? Enquiring minds want to know.


43 posted on 12/09/2011 9:33:40 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: Tonytitan

Boy, you can say THAT again!


44 posted on 12/09/2011 10:54:40 AM PST by ichabod1 (Vote for Herman Cain 2012! Stop Letting Them Drive Our Candidates Away!)
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To: bert
“My analysis is that as they said, or i think i read they said, it ran out of fuel loitering over a selected area. Out of fuel it can still fly by gliding to a landing. That can be controlled or uncontrolled, we don’t know which”

Lets assume this is correct, Iran is a huge country, how would they know it was down? Where to find it?

I think per the article above someone hacked the system and we were too stupid to change our system. I think the Russians waited until we put up our best bird up in the air and hi-jacked it to an airport. How in the hell can we have a system this important hacked? Read the whole article linked above.

45 posted on 12/09/2011 12:08:35 PM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: bert
“My analysis is that as they said, or i think i read they said, it ran out of fuel loitering over a selected area. Out of fuel it can still fly by gliding to a landing. That can be controlled or uncontrolled, we don’t know which”

Lets assume this is correct, Iran is a huge country, how would they know it was down? Where to find it?

I think per the article above someone hacked the system and we were too stupid to change our system. I think the Russians waited until we put up our best bird up in the air and hi-jacked it to an airport. How in the hell can we have a system this important hacked? Read the whole article linked above.

46 posted on 12/09/2011 12:12:48 PM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

sorry friday double post.


47 posted on 12/09/2011 12:13:45 PM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: xzins

They’re not stupid. Obama’s smart enough to know to lie domestically and tell the truth internationally.


48 posted on 12/09/2011 2:38:25 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: crosslink
“When your article came out, it was like, ‘What is this?’”

So we're being defended by the world's deadliest bureaucracy. Great.

49 posted on 12/09/2011 2:41:40 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Amigo04

Perhaps this drone was allowed to be “captured”, lol. Let your imaginations run wild...


50 posted on 12/09/2011 4:19:45 PM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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