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Bachmann to Trump: You’re fired
Hotair ^ | 12/09/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/09/2011 7:32:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

CBN’s David Brody gets the scoop on Michele Bachmann’s response to the invitation to the Donald Trump forum on December 27th in Iowa. Apparently, she has something better to do one week before the caucuses than ring-kissing:

Michele Bachmann’s campaign tells The Brody File that she will NOT attend the Newsmax debate moderated by Donald Trump on December 27th. Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman have also declined. That leaves Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum as the only ones who have said they will attend. A Lincoln/Douglas debate anyone?

In order to have a Lincoln/Douglas style debate, Trump would have to keep his mouth shut. Odds on that? You’re better off betting that Buddy Roemer wins Iowa in four weeks.

Brody thinks that Bachmann might be working on an upset:

The Brody File has said that Bachmann’s organizational strength among pastors and homeschoolers gives her the real shot at doing very well in Iowa.

And let’s face it — if that’s the demographic she’s aiming to get into her corner, Bachmann won’t convince them by cavorting with Donald Trump, of all people. With Romney not terribly popular among social conservatives and Gingrich carrying a hefty amount of personal baggage in this area, Bachmann could well make some inroads in her native state by hewing to social-conservative positions and venues. Rick Perry has already reached the same conclusion, making overt arguments along faith-based themes in Iowa. Again, Trump isn’t exactly a model for that argument.

So the question now becomes this: will Gingrich and Santorum stick to their commitment to Trump, or will they suddenly find something else to do on the 27th? I’m betting that they find some way to distance themselves from this event, and that it gets quietly forgotten.


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1 posted on 12/09/2011 7:32:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Funny it looked like she quit, to me.

Just saying.


2 posted on 12/09/2011 7:32:53 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind
I’m betting that they find some way to distance themselves from this event, and that it gets quietly forgotten.

That's what I'm thinking.

Doesn't seem real bright to take part in a debate hosted by someone who has said he knows who he's endorsing and that he hasn't ruled out a 3rd party run.

Maybe Ron Paul should hold a debate too.
3 posted on 12/09/2011 7:35:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump is a ‘rat. Maybe not the typical commie kind frequently seen these daze, but a ‘rat none the less.


4 posted on 12/09/2011 7:38:18 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Newsmax was the sponsor,Trump was merely the M.C. for the debate... I think its a huge mistake to not go forward with it...but thats one of the things about the primary season we get to see decisions made...both good and bad and the consequences thereof...
Freegards
Lex


5 posted on 12/09/2011 7:41:07 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Paladin2

If the “debate” goes forward and Trump endorses one of the attendees, its going to raise some real questions about whether the candidate was in on the scam.


6 posted on 12/09/2011 7:41:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would rather see Donald Trump moderating/hosting a debate than the slack jawed left-liberal Soros-sockpuppets on the alphabet networks, drooling in their worship of Comrade 0bama and casting the Kenyan’s potential opponents in the worst possible light possible.

And I’m getting damn sick and tired of hearing this ‘kissing the ring’ crap, nobody is kissing anybody’s ‘ring’ by participating in a debate moderated by Trump, that ‘kissing the ring’ mee-mee is nothing but an attempt to denigrate the discussion and exchange of ideas AND the unavoidable criticism of the Failure-In-Chief.


7 posted on 12/09/2011 7:44:17 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good on ya, Michele.

The Left has its own string-pulling billionaire... let’s not have one running a puppet show on this side of the aisle.


8 posted on 12/09/2011 7:44:29 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

She is wishy washy...just recently she suggested he may be her choice for VP!!!


9 posted on 12/09/2011 7:45:21 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: mkjessup
And I’m getting damn sick and tired of hearing this ‘kissing the ring’ crap, nobody is kissing anybody’s ‘ring’ by participating in a debate moderated by Trump

However, they are "kissing the ring" by making repeated pilgrimages to Trump's throne. Trump wants to turn this into a sordid remake of "The Apprentice." Not everyone wants in on his latest ego trip.

10 posted on 12/09/2011 7:46:22 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems pretty clear now that Bachmann is taking her instructions from Romney. What a shame.


11 posted on 12/09/2011 7:46:41 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: SeekAndFind
That leaves Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum as the only ones who have said they will attend.

The only two willing to stand up to the MSM - who immediately attacked the evil the rich guy for being too rich, and having the nerve to flaunt it.

Bachmann is a coward. She let the liberal media scare her away.

This is why Newt is in the lead. He's the only one willing to take on both the democrats and their propaganda wing at the same time, something that's needed today more than any other time in American history.

In my opinion, people are willing to over look Newts baggage, and even some of his past policies, just to have one Republican who's strong enough to fight back for a change.

12 posted on 12/09/2011 7:47:43 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: mkjessup

well stated! Trump loves this country and he has a lot of followers. May carry some weight in NY with a possible endorsement. It was just recently that Bachmann suggested “the DON” may be her vp.
Of course if I were Bachmann or Romney..the less I had to debate Gingrich the better off I would feel:) and no telling what Trump might ask...LOL


13 posted on 12/09/2011 7:48:14 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: SeekAndFind
Michele Bachmann will NOT attend...Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman have also declined.

I'm no fan of Trump. That said, all five of these candidates have attended debates attended by establishment media moderators who are worse than Trump.

Good for Santorum and Newt. Sad to see Michele go along with the other establishment candidates.

14 posted on 12/09/2011 7:49:16 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: cripplecreek

Considering how much free publicity this is generating, it would be stupid not to participate. It would also be a perfect opportunity to make Trump look foolish if he asked some misleading questions. Why this fear of Trump? It only serves to give him more credibility if you don’t participate.


15 posted on 12/09/2011 7:51:27 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: cripplecreek
Doesn't seem real bright to take part in a debate hosted by someone who has said he knows who he's endorsing and that he hasn't ruled out a 3rd party run.

You'd really have to be an idiot to agree to participate in a debate that will be moderated by a potential third party opponent!

16 posted on 12/09/2011 7:51:54 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Don’t blame her a bit. the way this is going it may be Gingrich and Newt, which should be interesting in a sick kind of way.

Wonder whose mouth would run the fastest?


17 posted on 12/09/2011 7:55:51 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: FreeReign
Good for Santorum and Newt. Sad to see Michele go along with the other establishment candidates.

That's right. She's running from the media. We don't need anymore Republicans who hide under their desks when a liberal reporter walks into the room.

18 posted on 12/09/2011 7:55:58 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ScottinVA
However, they are "kissing the ring" by making repeated pilgrimages to Trump's throne. Trump wants to turn this into a sordid remake of "The Apprentice." Not everyone wants in on his latest ego trip.

Ego trip?

If Ronald Reagan were alive today, would candidates who sought out his advice, counsel and wisdom be considered to be either feeding his or their own, 'ego trips'? The fact is, Donald Trump did more to smoke out the Kenyan Klown's FAKE birth certificate than anyone else did (and that will sooner or later, bite B'rack on his Communist ass, just you wait and see).

I like Trump in there mixing it up. And when he barked, 0bama quivered behind Moochelle's skirt.

That v.e.r.y L.A.R.G.E skirt, lol
19 posted on 12/09/2011 7:57:27 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: BigBobber

Big Bob, I agree with you 100%. Michelle reminds me of the character Renfield in Bram Stoker’s “Dracula”. She knows she’s done for, but she stays around for two reasons - garner her 5% in every caucus/primary in an effort to garner Mitt the plurality victory and to attack as Mitt directs so he can “stay above the fray” and “appear presidential.”

Unless and until she goes after Romney with the same ferocity as she has gone after Perry, Cain and Gingrich she will be left with this growing percetion that she is Romney’s “Renfield”.


20 posted on 12/09/2011 7:58:06 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Mittt Romney - he lacks the courage of his absence of convictions .)
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To: cripplecreek
If the “debate” goes forward and Trump endorses one of the attendees, its going to raise some real questions about whether the candidate was in on the scam.

What about all the other debates moderated by biased establisment media scammers.

I think Bachmann is the best conservative in the bunch. That said I think this is another example of Bachmann pulling her punches against the Republican establishment.

21 posted on 12/09/2011 7:58:18 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

RE: Good for Santorum and Newt.

This will give Santorum PLENTY of airtime. In most of the other debates, he was practically twiddling his thumbs waiting for the moderator to call on him.


22 posted on 12/09/2011 7:58:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: pgkdan

I predict a disastrous outcome for those who attend if it takes place at all.


23 posted on 12/09/2011 7:58:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Kirkwood

I don’t agree. This debate is looking gimmicky and more and more like reality tv.

Santorum is in because, well, because he’s out and has nothing to lose.

Gingrich is in because he’s Gingrich and no chance to talk can be ignored.

I think the decliners did the right thing and it will end up making Trump look foolish, which he dearly deserves.

The other moderators someone spoke of are, yes, many of them worse than trump, but they were affiliated with some group or network ... they didn’t summon everyone to appear.


24 posted on 12/09/2011 7:59:51 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: concerned about politics

I agree with you. These candidates will stand there allowing George Stephanopolous to shape America’s view of them but they won’t lower themselves to do a panel with Trump? STUPID. Trump has fans that are NOT Republicans. What are they afraid of? They should be taking every chance they get to stand before different audiences.


25 posted on 12/09/2011 8:02:39 AM PST by carmody
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To: cripplecreek

I agree but expect that some quiet way will be found to just kill the whole thing.


26 posted on 12/09/2011 8:04:15 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind
Apparently, she has something better to do one week before the caucuses than ring-kissing

Cooking Christmas dinner for 47 children takes a lot out of ya', you know.

27 posted on 12/09/2011 8:05:20 AM PST by elli1
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

“a huge mistake to not go forward with it”

I agree and hope it is a great success and sets a precedent for the format of future debates.


28 posted on 12/09/2011 8:05:36 AM PST by Rock N Jones
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To: mkjessup
I like Trump in there mixing it up. And when he barked, 0bama quivered behind Moochelle's skirt.

And this debate is sponsored by News Max. If News Max decided on Trump, I'm fine with it. So what are the other candidates running away from? The liberal media!!!

Imagine them having to face that same media in the White House. If they can't handle the media now, they' won't be able to do it later when the stakes are even higher. They're cowards. They ran and hid!

If they can't handle a little "negative" press from the left wing media now, they're not strong enough to handle the position of the presidency later.

29 posted on 12/09/2011 8:06:20 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: katiedidit1
She is wishy washy...just recently she suggested he may be her choice for VP!!!

Right-e-o.

Link

30 posted on 12/09/2011 8:07:49 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: mkjessup
If Ronald Reagan were alive today, would candidates who sought out his advice, counsel and wisdom be considered to be either feeding his or their own, 'ego trips'? The fact is, Donald Trump did more to smoke out the Kenyan Klown's FAKE birth certificate than anyone else did (and that will sooner or later, bite B'rack on his Communist ass, just you wait and see).

Quite a show, wasn't it, that "smoking out" of the BC? What again that accomplish, besides an opportunity for Trump to glorify himself?

As a highly successful, two-term conservative President Reagan has earned the honor of being a sought-after endorsement. Contrast that to Trump, a political chameleon whose donations to democrats far exceed those to Republicans, and STILL is mulling a third-party run against those whose "debate" he wants to "moderate." As for the comparison with Reagan, Trump doesn't belong in the same stadium, much less on the same field as the Gipper.

31 posted on 12/09/2011 8:10:03 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Kirkwood
Considering how much free publicity this is generating, it would be stupid not to participate. It would also be a perfect opportunity to make Trump look foolish if he asked some misleading questions. Why this fear of Trump? It only serves to give him more credibility if you don’t participate.

I'm in agreement. What is the real downside to participating? I'm glad there will be a debate without some of the minor players providing a time wasting distraction.

I find it humorous to see the reasons the candidates are giving to not participating, when these candidates had no problem participating in MSM and Left wing (MSNBC) debates. Don't you think those moderators already know who they will endorse (Obama)? That did not stop the candidates from going on with the show.

I think the Trump debate could be very interesting to watch. I think it is foolish to pass up the exposure that could come from it, especially since some of these folks have already made the pilgramge to Trump Tower.

The discussion will be about real world solutions, not stupid or cutesy questions. If it is just Gingrich and Santorum, fine, I'll still watch.

32 posted on 12/09/2011 8:11:48 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: pgkdan
I agree but expect that some quiet way will be found to just kill the whole thing.

Hopefully.

33 posted on 12/09/2011 8:12:05 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just . . . Damn.

I was so hoping for more profound insights like “One thing I would say is, when you take the 9-9-9 plan and turn it upside down, the devil is in the details”. We need that kind of focus and ringing articulation of conservative principles of ordered liberty. After all, what do the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence -really- say if you read them backwards, hmmmm? Insights like these will be missed.


34 posted on 12/09/2011 8:14:34 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: altura
" the way this is going it may be Gingrich and Newt"

Say what?

35 posted on 12/09/2011 8:15:01 AM PST by almost done by half
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To: Paladin2
Trump is a ‘rat. Maybe not the typical commie kind frequently seen these daze, but a ‘rat none the less.

Amen to that. How people fail to see it is amazing to me.

36 posted on 12/09/2011 8:15:22 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m looking forward to it.


37 posted on 12/09/2011 8:15:36 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cripplecreek
I predict a disastrous outcome for those who attend if it takes place at all.

Oh, on the contrary. It'll almost be one on one without the others getting in the way. This one is going to be a class act. I believe serious questions are going to be asked this time, and serious people are going to be answering them.

Bachmann knows she can't win the big one, so she's sucking up to Romney for VP. I used to like her, but over time, by her fruits we got to know her.

She's running away from this. The questions are going to be contemplative. Rehearsed sound bites won't work this time.

38 posted on 12/09/2011 8:17:03 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: carmody
I agree with you. These candidates will stand there allowing George Stephanopolous to shape America’s view of them but they won’t lower themselves to do a panel with Trump?

We've got Perry supporters and Bachmann supporters who won't see your point.

BTW, I like Bachmann, but her strategy this campaign cycle has been poor.

39 posted on 12/09/2011 8:17:37 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SeekAndFind

The Donald has the balls to ask probing questions. I think they should all go with bells on and really get down into this socialist mess and explain why Obama is wrong for the American people.


40 posted on 12/09/2011 8:18:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: ScottinVA

“What again that accomplish, besides an opportunity for Trump to glorify himself?”

It accomplished the proffer of a digitally forged document as Obama’s best defense. It is not Trump’s fault that officeholders and officials from both parties willfully ignore that the present charade is a charade.


41 posted on 12/09/2011 8:20:41 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: altura

Wondering since Santorum is in ...if Newt and Santorum will form a friendship. So far, I haven’t heard Santorum slamming the other candidates much. A Trump endorsement would help in New York.


42 posted on 12/09/2011 8:21:20 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: ScottinVA
Trump is a ‘rat. Maybe not the typical commie kind frequently seen these daze, but a ‘rat none the less.
Amen to that. How people fail to see it is amazing to me.

And all the other debates were put on by.......uh.....organizations like CNN, CNBC,......
Did you have a problem with any of those?

This debate is sponsored by News Max, and THIS is the one you object to? Who's side are you on, anyway?

43 posted on 12/09/2011 8:24:44 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ScottinVA
If Ronald Reagan were alive today, would candidates who sought out his advice, counsel and wisdom be considered to be either feeding his or their own, 'ego trips'? The fact is, Donald Trump did more to smoke out the Kenyan Klown's FAKE birth certificate than anyone else did (and that will sooner or later, bite B'rack on his Communist ass, just you wait and see).
Quite a show, wasn't it, that "smoking out" of the BC? What again that accomplish, besides an opportunity for Trump to glorify himself?


Scott, you obviously haven't been keeping up. That so-called 'certificate' that the 0bama regime released with much fanfare has been proven to be a sham, by more than one document expert, and while the wheels of revelation turn slowly, they do indeed turn. And there remains that little issue of 0bama using a Connecticut-issued Social Security Number when he was living and working in HAWAII. You don't like Donald Trump, everyone gets that. But when he does something that benefits our Nation, he should get credit for it. Focusing attention on 0bama's dubious origins was a definite service, and his participation in the political process should be encouraged, not ridiculed.

As a highly successful, two-term conservative President Reagan has earned the honor of being a sought-after endorsement.

Err, except for the fact that he died in 2004. I was speaking hypothetically Scott.

Contrast that to Trump, a political chameleon whose donations to democrats far exceed those to Republicans, and STILL is mulling a third-party run against those whose "debate" he wants to "moderate." As for the comparison with Reagan, Trump doesn't belong in the same stadium, much less on the same field as the Gipper.

Nobody suggested that Trump and Reagan were 'equivalent' or 'equal', and even Trump would never make such a comparison. It is the idea of a public figure, with considerable influence, who in this case, is no friend of Barack 0bama, is involved in the process of hopefully flushing that Kenyan turd out of the White House next year. If that is our goal, then Trump has made common cause with us. That's not a bad thing.
44 posted on 12/09/2011 8:24:54 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I agree, anyone who is unwilling to be in a debate moderated by Trump has officially labeled themselves part of the establishment that is against anyone but them running things.

I will stand behind NewsMax before i stand behind CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, or any other MSM outlet holding a debate that is moderated by leftists cronies who’s only aim is to make republicans look stupid.


45 posted on 12/09/2011 8:28:56 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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Sooooo... The justification for Trump is...

The moderators from CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/PBS turn our debates into a media circus, and our response is to up the ante by hiring a genuine Ringmaster?

It solidifies the impression that we're more interested in the entertainment value of the debates rather than the substance.

Why not have The Mythbusters sponsor a debate...at least there would be actual explosions.

Huckabee provided an excellent blueprint for vetting candidates on relevant issues. Let's see who follows.

46 posted on 12/09/2011 8:32:01 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: concerned about politics

“She’s running from the media. We don’t need any... who hide under their desks when a liberal reporter walks into the room.”

Interesting you should say that. Lately I’ve noticed the only time(s) I can even tolerate listening to Bachmann is when she’s being interviewed in a very friendly environment, i.e., Hannity or Levin. She comes across as articulate, calm, civil.

Add opponents to the mix and she becomes hysterical in the traditional use of the word. She seems to feel threatened at a very basic level and just lashes out irrationally. And that’s with the guys on her side of the aisle. Not presidential at all.

The POTUS can’t choose who s/he interacts with, and can’t change personality and behavior based on who the individual might be. MB may be good on paper, or in a supportive environment, but in the least challenging circumstances (a debate with fellow Republicans) she fails abysmally.


47 posted on 12/09/2011 8:39:51 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

IMHO...
The sad part about her being Renfield is that even if she drops out and endorses Mittens, I don’t think her followers are going to go for that. Her’s are definitely more Tea party followers and will go to Perry or Newt or Santorum.


48 posted on 12/09/2011 8:40:36 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: SeekAndFind

49 posted on 12/09/2011 8:42:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”Brody thinks that Bachmann might be working on an upset: The Brody File has said that Bachmann’s organizational strength among pastors and homeschoolers gives her the real shot at doing very well in Iowa. And let’s face it — if that’s the demographic she’s aiming to get into her corner, Bachmann won’t convince them by cavorting with Donald Trump, of all people. With Romney not terribly popular among social conservatives and Gingrich carrying a hefty amount of personal baggage in this area, Bachmann could well make some inroads in her native state by hewing to social-conservative positions and venues.

Bachmann not getting herself involved with this Jerry Springer like character (Trump) is a HUGE plus in my view.

Remember Trump's phony POTUS run and all the suckers that bought into it (and him) like rats following the leader off the cliff? What did your private investigators find that you claimed was conclusive Don??

50 posted on 12/09/2011 8:42:50 AM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"Plan B is to quit, but not call it quitting. Instead call it fighting")
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