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Newt Gingrich - RINO or Genuine Pro-Life Reagan Conservative?
vanity | December 9, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/09/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: kalee; TitansAFC; onyx; LuvFreeRepublic; Sea Parrot; SweetCaroline; matthew fuller; Gator113; ...

Newt Ping!

Methinks Bibi Netanyahu will be smiling when he hears this one.


61 posted on 12/09/2011 2:27:57 PM PST by TitansAFC (Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry are not your enemies, my fellow Freepers!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Newt has fought the conservative battles in the past. Romney well, he’s recently discovered little c conservatism. Newt knows history and knows that what needs to be done, needs to be quick, dramatic and historical. Romney would be co-opted his first day in office and resume the rino-in-chief mantle. He would right the economy but grow the debt, increase the size of government and litter the countryside with liberal judges. Same ole, same ole. Newt wants to be a Reganite historical figure and you can’t do that tacking to the left and pushing the country over the cliff. I vote Newt. (And I’m noteven holding my nose like I did with our last assclown).


62 posted on 12/09/2011 2:28:51 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
made millions while this country went bankrupt.

He should have also gone bankrupt?

63 posted on 12/09/2011 2:29:08 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Texas Fossil

so it was more a leading question and Newt answered politely? what a relief.


64 posted on 12/09/2011 2:29:15 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Newt Ping!

The boss man speaketh on Newt! :-)
Hear ye, hear ye!!!!!!


65 posted on 12/09/2011 2:29:15 PM PST by TitansAFC (Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry are not your enemies, my fellow Freepers!)
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To: kalee; TitansAFC; onyx; LuvFreeRepublic; Sea Parrot; SweetCaroline; matthew fuller; Gator113; ...

Newt Ping!

The boss man speaketh on Newt! :-)
Hear ye, hear ye!!!!!!


66 posted on 12/09/2011 2:29:38 PM PST by TitansAFC (Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry are not your enemies, my fellow Freepers!)
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To: McGruff

Hear, hear!

Sarah would have to declare pretty soon. Realistically, that means reconsidering in the next week and making a decision to run.

Alas, it seems she is content where she is. But we can still dream...........


67 posted on 12/09/2011 2:33:14 PM PST by TitansAFC (Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry are not your enemies, my fellow Freepers!)
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To: Palladin
Would you have voted for Benjamin Franklin?

Do you think him an unworthy Founding Father?

He had a common law wife and an illegitimate son. He had a reputation of being quite a libertine. I guess those facts would disqualify him from greatness for you and you would eschew anything he wrote or suggested--such as this republic.

Personally, I'm looking for a President, not a moral compass or the head of a church. I'm looking for a leader who can take this nation out of the morass of economic disaster, profligate spending and ambiguity about the greatness of America.

Even in their far more puritanical world, not all of our Founding Fathers were paragons of virtue.
68 posted on 12/09/2011 2:33:55 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Jim Scott
Enter Newt Gingrich - who confounds me. Yes, his tenure as Speaker of the House was productive for conservative goals but his lobbying (whatever you call it) and statements on various issues trouble me.

If I might address this concern for a moment, I think there is an explanation for this. Newt was a professor, and professors tend to shoot out ideas for discussion rather haphazardly to see if they are good ideas or not. They see value in raising ideas for discussion even if they aren't completely on board themselves.

That's why Newt gets into trouble with things like his comments about orphanages, or repealing child labor laws so kids can work in schools, etc. He sees some merit or worth in some aspect of the idea, and tosses it out there just to get the ball rolling.

But the thing is that just because he tosses something like that out there does not mean he actually endorses it. For him, it's part of a feeling out process. It's the professor in him coming out. But the best predictor of what Gingrich will do isn't to look at those brainstorming ideas, but to look at the legislation he actually pushed or proposed as a fully ripened idea. And in that regard, his record of conservative accomplishment in the House during Clinton's terms is really impressive.

69 posted on 12/09/2011 2:34:39 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: tioga

sort of.

Newt is not my first choice, but certainly better than the train wreck called Obozo.

Remember, the nation is not run by one man. Who he selects for leadership positions is more important that the president. Policy direction is quite another thing.

Jimmy (peanuts/no nuts)Carter tried to micromanage (nuclear engineering type bs) and look at that failure.

Newt would probably not do that.

Now the question is just how much unexposed baggage he actually has? Did not seem to be a problem for Obozo, but it is different with Republicans.


70 posted on 12/09/2011 2:35:20 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: tioga

Newt On Fire! Hammers ObamaCare and Media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DdrMBSI5Xk


71 posted on 12/09/2011 2:36:00 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: tioga
Didn’t I hear Newt say he could see Romney as his VP? REALLY?

That was a slam, a cut, a thinly veiled insult, if you will.

72 posted on 12/09/2011 2:36:50 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Jim Robinson; DJ MacWoW; trisham; Dengar01; afnamvet; RedMDer; JoeProBono; vox_freedom; ...
Thank you for posting a separate thread!

I truly believe that Newt Gingrich is the best equipped to first takedown Romney and then the Marxist. We're in the battle for our Republic.

Who's going to appoint the SCOTUS vacanies? The Marxist or President Gingrich?

Forget his Samsonite Lamestream Baggage. It's already worn out by too many travels 'round the world. Nothing new to throw at Gingrich.

I think that historian Newt Gingrich, will want President Gingrich to be viewed by history as the second Ronald Reagan.

Furthermore, I think President Gingrich will want comparisons to Reagan while he's in office, beginning from day one!

73 posted on 12/09/2011 2:36:54 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Jim Robinson; DJ MacWoW; trisham; Dengar01; afnamvet; RedMDer; JoeProBono; vox_freedom; ...
Thank you for posting a separate thread!

I truly believe that Newt Gingrich is the best equipped to first takedown Romney and then the Marxist. We're in the battle for our Republic.

Who's going to appoint the SCOTUS vacanies? The Marxist or President Gingrich?

Forget his Samsonite Lamestream Baggage. It's already worn out by too many travels 'round the world. Nothing new to throw at Gingrich.

I think that historian Newt Gingrich, will want President Gingrich to be viewed by history as the second Ronald Reagan.

Furthermore, I think President Gingrich will want comparisons to Reagan while he's in office, beginning from day one!

74 posted on 12/09/2011 2:37:57 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Politicalmom

I’m not buying Newt either, because in despite of some conservative accomplishments as Speaker, since then, he has shown himself to be very much a RINO.

Newt Gingrich’s personal baggage doesn’t concern me in the least, that’s between himself and God, HOWEVER, his political views and policy endorsements do concern me. His many flip-flops and claims of being a Conservative, SHOULD be scrutinized and questioned just as much as Mitt Romney’s many flip-flops and claims of being a Conservative.

http://emergingcorruption.com/...

The Record of Newt Gingrich

1979 Elected to Congress from Georgia’s 6th District
1979 Voted to create the Department of Education, under President Jimmy Carter
1990 Becomes member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
1993 Voted for NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement
1994 Supported the WTO, the World Trade Organization. Voted for GATT, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade that subjected Americans to the international authority of the WTO
1995 Becomes Speaker of the House of Representatives and recommends reading The Third Wave by Alvin Toffler as required reading for all of his Congressional colleagues. (See accompanying article.)
1995 Delivers speech to the Center for Strategic and International Affairs in which he blames the US Constitution for making America’s role in leading the world more difficult! Read his full quote in accompanying article, “The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution…”.
1995 Wrote the foreword to another one of Toffler’s books, The Politics of the Third Wave, Creating a New Civilization
1995 The liberal establishment Time Magazine names Newt Gingrich their “Man of the Year”
1995 Appeals to the US House of Representatives to increase the power of the Presidency by repealing the War Powers Act of 1972, and urged President Clinton to expand the US military presence in Bosnia.
1996 Under his leadership, Congress passed the largest single spending increase on education in US history, a whopping $3.5 billion dollars!
1999 Newt resigns over failed midterm elections in which Republicans lost 5 seats, the worst loss in history for a Party who did not control the White House. At the same time, he was also involved in a flap over an extra marital affair and a controversial book deal.
2008 Records the ‘We Can Solve It’ global warming TV commercial for Al Gore along with Nancy Pelosi
2009-2010 Travels around the country with Al Sharpton and Arne Duncan to promote President Obama’s new educational policies: i.e. increased local control of schools with increased Federal subsidies and regulations from Washington. (Sounds like quite a contradiction to me.)
2010 Supported ultra-liberal, pro-abortion, pro-union, establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava in New York’s 23rd Congressional District in a special election, over conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

Newt Gingrich Statements

“I’m against Obamacare, which is imposing radical change. And I would be against a conservative imposing radical change.” ~Newt

“We do agree, our country must take action to address climate change” ~Newt on the couch of Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection.

“Well, let’s see, first of all, I was really attracted to working with Reverend Sharpton because he took the position that education is the number one civil right of the 21st century. Without education, you can’t have a decent job, you can’t be an effective citizen. You really are crippled in your ability to be an American. “ Newt, on the couch with obamao and sharpton

“We are not going to deport 11 million people,” Gingrich said Thursday as he kicked off his first forum on Latino issues. “There has to be some zone between deportation and amnesty.”

GINGRICH: Exercise a no-fly zone this evening, communicate to the Libyan military that Gadhafi was gone and that the sooner they switch sides, the more likely they were to survive, provided help to the rebels to replace him. ...The United States doesn’t need anybody’s permission. We don’t need to have NATO, who frankly, won’t bring much to the fight. We don’t need to have the United Nations. All we have to say is that we think that slaughtering your own citizens is unacceptable and that we’re intervening. And we don’t have to send troops. All we have to do is suppress his air force, which we could do in minutes.

On September 25, 2008 Congressman Gingrich appeared on Hannity and Colmes and called the proposed TARP legislation socialism and stated that it should be defeated in it’s form.

On September 28, 2008 Congressman Gingrich appeared on ABC’s This Week and stated that the question was not whether something needed to be done, but whether it needed to be TARP and whether it needed to be done in the
next 48 hours. He then states that he would probably reluctantly vote for the legislation.


75 posted on 12/09/2011 2:39:42 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with parts of what you say, but Newt is NOT small government. You cannot make that of him. He was against HillaryCare, but he was for ObamaCare. He was for GW (global warming), as well as cap & trade. His reforms did not last and things are worse today that before. Yes, I know he was followed by big government presidents and House leaders, but part of the reason he was losing his base in the mid-90s was because he’d already abandoned THEM, had moved on to other things. He does not stay the course. What concerns me about Newt is his ego, and that is big enough to drive a train, his finger-to-the-wind philosophy. Let me explain. When new ideas come out, Newt supports them, then when he sees dislike among conservatives, he’s against the same thing. He realizes that the tea party is trying to make government more accountable, smaller, less corrupt, so now he’s on this bandwagon, too. If, after he is elected, there is a lot of protest about governing too conservatively, Newt will abandon conservatives to accommodate those people, too!
As a school nurse, and my husband being a counselor, we KNOW people and how they act, what to expect of them. They are predictable.

I, too, wish Palin was running. She gets it, and is willing to speak out or do whatever is necessary to save America, come what may. She is party-blind (such as color-blind) in dealing with corruption and wrong-doings. Newt will charge to safer ground to save his sorry ass when the complaints start. That is what he does. We are habitual people. I just ask: how many times do we need to be fooled before we realize that he cannot help himself.


76 posted on 12/09/2011 2:41:09 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Jim Robinson

I saw that live! Love THAT Newt. Apparently, Ron Paul thinks if he knocks off Newt he can have his turn to be #1. Ain’t never gonna happen.


77 posted on 12/09/2011 2:41:48 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Newt knows by now who it is that has placed him in the lead, and he’s known all along who his enemies would be if he took the lead. He leads, with no machine and with a million in debt, because of us, and plenty of Indies and plenty of moderate Republicans are ready to buck the bridle off against the establishment because we are all awake now.
After Florida, we get Romney or else. Period. No one but Newt has the genetics to even take on two fronts simultaneously. Nobody has the genius of the game that he cut his teeth on long ago, under their belt. If the mission is to defeat first Romney, then Obama, then the purists are going to have to take it elsewhere away from me. They are in the way.An overwhelming force is coming at us, and the single digit trailer crowd are in the way.


78 posted on 12/09/2011 2:42:28 PM PST by RitaOK (wRasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with parts of what you say, but Newt is NOT small government. You cannot make that of him. He was against HillaryCare, but he was for ObamaCare. He was for GW (global warming), as well as cap & trade. His reforms did not last and things are worse today that before. Yes, I know he was followed by big government presidents and House leaders, but part of the reason he was losing his base in the mid-90s was because he’d already abandoned THEM, had moved on to other things. He does not stay the course. What concerns me about Newt is his ego, and that is big enough to drive a train, his finger-to-the-wind philosophy. Let me explain. When new ideas come out, Newt supports them, then when he sees dislike among conservatives, he’s against the same thing. He realizes that the tea party is trying to make government more accountable, smaller, less corrupt, so now he’s on this bandwagon, too. If, after he is elected, there is a lot of protest about governing too conservatively, Newt will abandon conservatives to accommodate those people, too!

As a school nurse, and my husband being a counselor, we KNOW people and how they act, what to expect of them. They are predictable.

I, too, wish Palin was running. She gets it, and is willing to speak out or do whatever is necessary to save America, come what may. She is party-blind (such as color-blind) in dealing with corruption and wrong-doings. Newt will charge to safer ground to save his sorry ass when the complaints start. That is what he does. We are habitual people. I just ask: how many times do we need to be fooled before we realize that he cannot help himself.


79 posted on 12/09/2011 2:42:59 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Cicero
Whatever one thinks of them, they will certainly be used to persuade the Evangelical vote to stay home, and that’s one of the ways that the Democrats took congress in 2006—because the Evangelicals who had turned out in large numbers for Bush got discouraged and stayed home. The media will have plenty to work with to accomplish a similar reaction.

Alternatively, from what I've been reading elsewhere, the values voters decide to give Romney a second look. There's the idea that his policies aren't so different from Newt's in the end and "at least he's a decent man."

Ironically, while some Romney voters are migrating to Gingrich, the reverse may happen as well.

What can be done about it? Nothing.

80 posted on 12/09/2011 2:48:39 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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