Posted on 12/09/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson
I posted the below in response to a FReeper who asked me what we should do in regards to progressives Newt and Romney. And he asked me what would George Washington do? So I got to thinking about why I've been gravitating towards Newt. In fact it kept me up for half the night.
Here is my reply:
Well, I’ll tell you, after Palin declined to run I really didn’t have a dog in this race. I liked Bachmann and Cain a lot, even Perry, but not as much as I liked Palin. Bachmann and Cain are both conservative enough, but neither have really been tested in higher office, nor do they have much experience in world affairs.
I also had high hopes for Perry because it looks like he’s done a great job in Texas, but his positions on the border issues turned off a lot of people. And his “heartless” statement didn’t win him much opportunity to turn that around.
I guess Santorum is conservative enough and possibly Huntsman, but neither engender much enthusiasm or excitement. Seems they’re just going through the motions. Don’t know if they have the real world experience to be CINC anyway.
Bachmann seems to be trying really hard but don’t know if she’s really qualified for the top spot either. Even so, had Bachmann really lit a fuse on the trail, I probably would have stood by and supported her, but she flopped and is unlikely to recover.
I thought early on that if Perry got into the race (without Palin) that he’d suck all the air out of it and would dominate. But he flopped. And then Cain took off like a rocket and he flopped.
Now Cain didn’t have elective experience, but he looked like a great conservative so we were all hoping and pulling for him. Well, that didn’t turn out well.
Mind you, that abortionist, lib progressive bastard Mitt Romney is just sitting there smiling through all this and he, Rove and the GOP elite think they’ve got it in the bag. Just gotta hang in there, not say anything rash, not rock the boat, no mistakes, just play defense as one by one the upstart tea party conservative candidates burn themselves out.
In my mind, we must defeat Romney AND Obama. I don’t think George Washington is going to be smiling down on us if we had this great tea party opportunity to knock off the progressives and we let Rove, Romney and the corrupt good old boys club bushwhack us. We’re supposed to be the bushwhackers.
So like a whole lot of conservative Republicans and tea party folks, we’re bouncing candidate to candidate looking for the one to knock off Romney so we can take the tea party battle directly to Obama. Romney is no tea party person. He and Rove, et al, sneer at us. No way in hell are they going to do anything we’re interested in doing even if they do get elected. It’ll be government as usual. Big. They hate us worse than they hate the democrats because we’re a direct threat to their power base.
So in comes Gingrich. Didn’t much care for him at first, mainly because of his well known baggage, and his perceived RINO plumage, but he began making a lot of sense and scoring a lot of points in the debates. Turns out his depth of knowledge and experience in government affairs both domestic and foreign and his experience with Ronald Reagan, the Reagan Revolution and the Republican Revolution of the 90’s are quite extensive and quite impressive if you look.
He’s been through the mill and that’s what a lot of our younger less experienced, less traveled candidates are missing. In the debates he comes off as a wiser, more experienced, more knowledgeable, level-headed senior statesman. And it appeared to me that the other candidates acknowledged and respected that.
So I start thinking back about his history as a congressman and speaker, and lo and behold, it appears to me he’s not such a RINO after all. He was a genuine Reagan protege. And he learned well from the master communicator. He eventually set a goal for himself to build a Republican majority and to take the speakership, and he determinately accomplished that goal.
And he had some great conservative accomplishments as congressman and speaker. He passed the contract with America. He cut taxes. Cut the deficit. Reformed welfare. Blocked HillaryCare. Became a thorn in President Clinton’s side, blocked much of his liberal agenda and ultimately allowed impeachment to proceed. Then of course, he resigned due to his own infidelity scandal. But, unlike Clinton, he didn’t deny it, didn’t lie about it, and he did the right thing by resigning.
Bottom line though, through his years with the Reagan Revolution and the Republican majority much conservative good was accomplished. The Wall came down, the Soviet Union collapsed and our great Reagan economy flourished for two decades.
Now, if a progressive RINO had been in charge of the congress during this period, who knows what would have happened. I’m sure the history would have been a lot different. Remember, before Gingrich and his Republican Majority, we conservatives had wandered in the wilderness for 40 years!! And our country was on life support after Jimmy Carter nearly killed it. And the democrats were saying at the time that there was nothing we could do about it. We were going to be stuck with the cold war. Stuck with the Soviet Union, stuck with Iran. Stuck with high oil prices, gas lines and rationing. Stuck with recession, high interest rates, high inflation and high unemployment from that point forward. They could not be fixed. Jimmy Carter and the democrats had given up on America and surrendered the USA to our fate as a failed nation.
In walk Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich and reestablish that great shining city on the hill! Thank God! It’s not the end of the world after all. Iran returns the hostages immediately. Reagan takes the Soviet Union head on! Reagan takes the democrats head on and doesn’t take no for an answer. Takes his ideas to the people. It was a struggle but eventually the economy began turning. Reagan’s central theme domestically was that the government was too big, too intrusive, taxes too high, too much spending, too many regulations, too many restrictions on business and industry and they all must be cut. And he took that battle over the heads of the democrat congress to the tax payers and they loved it. Sound familiar?
And in 1994, Newt Gingrich leads the charge against the democrats who had been in power for 40 years and the Republicans take the majority and Gingrich becomes Speaker. He dreams up the contract with America which was designed as an extension of the Reagan Revolution and and included items attempting to balance the budget, reform welfare, tort reform, term limits, line item veto, etc. Some of it was successfully implemented, some not. But under Gingrich they did cut the deficit and balance the budget four years running. Sound desirable? Sound progressive?
How many times in our history have you seen a liberal progressive, cut taxes, cut regulations, cut spending, cut welfare, balance the budget, block big government programs like HillaryCare, impeach a sitting president, etc?
Never! In other words, all this to say Newt is NO RINO!! He’s a pro-life, pro-small government, pro-national security, Reagan conservative!! In short, we’re desperate, and he’s exactly what we’re looking for, and he’s running head and shoulders over the rest of the field, so what the hell are we squabbling about?
Yes, Romney and Rove hate him, the Republican establishment elite ruling class hates him, the liberals hate him, the democrats hate him and they hate him for the same reasons the taxpayers will support him, the lovers of liberty will support him, the defenders of life will support him, the defenders of national security will support him, the lovers of the Reagan Revolution will support him, and we the tea party should support him!! He’s a tax cutting, budget balancing, strong defense, small government, pro-life Reagan CONSERVATIVE!!
After reviewing Newt vs Romney, George Washington would say, go, NEWT!!
I’ll take a chance with Newt. Over Romney? You betcha!!
What say you?
Like Myth, Noot is anybody you want him to be.
A RINO is a Republican in Name Only.. a label that certainly doesn’t apply to Newt. Republican and conservative are not the same thing either. One could measure a Republican by the strength of their opposition to Democrats, and that makes Newt a very potent Republican indeed.
Ping!
You bet!
If he gets in, I plan to ride his tail, though. I expect him to be a anti-leftist Reagan conservative and avoid all couches with ugly ladies sitting on them. :)
I too was holding out for Sarah.
Everyone else is background noise at this point.
I hate to say it but all I’m doing next Nov. is vote against Obama.Sigh
We need to beat Obama.
Women won’t vote for Newt when they learn about his betrayal of his wives and taking up with mistresses.
Newt can talk conservative because he is smart, but he is a total Washington insider and made millions while this country went bankrupt.
He supported an individual mandate.
Newt as GOP nominee means Obama’s second term and the death of what remains of our Republic.
NO way I can vote for Newt is the GOP race as is effectively a vote for Obama.
It’s a shame that this is the best the ‘party’ has to offer .. or will allow.
Maybe changing his hair color to Reagan brown would bring more folks over to him.
But who would want the job as the Captain of the Titanic?
NewT certainly has the hair for it tho. I’m sure Calista would be a great set of eyes in the crows-nest too.. able to spot ice and diamonds from miles away.
Giddyup!
I can’t vote for him but I don’t think its going to matter anyway.
Owing Tiffany’s hundreds of thousands of dollars for 2d mistress turned 3d wife Callista is not going to endear Newt to the Reagan Democrats, to independents or women in general. Newt may get 45% of the vote if he is lucky. Certain states we need will definitely be lost.
Newt = Obama’s 2d term
I am again called upon by the voice of my country to execute the functions of its Chief Magistrate. When the occasion proper for it shall arrive, I shall endeavor to express the high sense I entertain of this distinguished honor, and of the confidence which has been reposed in me by the people of united America.
Previous to the execution of any official act of the President the Constitution requires an oath of office. This oath I am now about to take, and in your presence: That if it shall be found during my administration of the Government I have in any instance violated willingly or knowingly the injunctions thereof, I may (besides incurring constitutional punishment) be subject to the upbraidings of all who are now witnesses of the present solemn ceremony.";)
While he’s not my first choice (Palin) or even my second (Cain), I will vote for the Newt in a heartbeat over RINO Romney.
I say Newt is one of the people who has crafted Washington DC and is one of the reasons it is what it is today.
I worked in the automotive field for a while and Newt reminds me of one automotive term “RE-TREAD”
I want to be lead BY EXAMPLE!
Gingrich is for cap and trade.
Gingrich voted to permit the Federal Reserve to purchase Treasury Debt, thereby allowing monetization of all fiscal deficits through inflation.
Gingrich was one of the few who voted against the 1984 bill requiring the President and Congress to submit a balanced budget.
If anything, all this experience running something that is massively in debt makes him better suited to serve as our chief executive.
If Newt Gingrich can wangle his way out of his campaign’s financial hole, then he will have demonstrated once and for all that he is the man America needs.
And it’s quite an impressive hole. He owes $451,946 to something called Moby Dick Airways, apparently a group of specialists in flying great white whales from place to place. No, wait, I’m sorry, they charter private flights for Republican political figures.
He also owes five figures to himself for travel expenses, which is in addition to the $42,000 he already paid himself for an address book and possibly maybe did not quite remember to tell the FEC about.
THAT IS NOT LEADING BY EXAMPLE!!
NO NEWT IS GOOD NEWT!!
Newt can not be Rino because he is the definition of being Republican
Newt can not be tagged with the revised and totally depraved definition so many here have allowed to creep into the term of RINO.
Didn't hurt Wilhelm Clinton...
Newt is preferable to Romney. I’m not sure there are people here anyway who actually think differently.
A well-known, but not so popular around here commentator said it best about Newt — when will his own worst enemy take him out? His own worst enemy is Newt himself. The fear is that he’ll stay focused through the nomination, and then he’ll be “Newt” again and blow the election.
But if nobody else is going to gain traction, what else can we do? We aren’t going to sit home.
Putting the brakes on Obama should be first and foremost priorty.
Can you imagine an Obama who doesn’t need to ‘moderate’ himself to be re-elected again? No more campaigns to run?
Can you imagine an Obama who feels the American public gave him a mandate and a blank check to go full speed with his dreams?
Can you imagine an Obama who knows he has just four more years to fundamentally change the world?
Can you imagine more czars and more executive orders?
Can you imagine Obama having four years of appointing lifetime positions of federal judges all over the country?
Can you imagine an election where the Democrats turn out more voters, thus possibly giving them back all three branches of government?
We have to hit the breaks. Even if all we are doing is putting a temporary rock under the tire to slow us down as we approach the cliff, it is better than pushing the accelerator down.
Even a hold your nose candidate like Newt will want to be re-elected so his first four years, he will pander to those who elected him.
They voted for Clinton in droves. He made his wife a fool and an accomplice in his infidelity.
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