Wanted: Blue-Collar Workers - Who will power America’s new industrial revolution?

City Journal ^ | Autumn 2011 | Joel Kotkin

[Elsie]

Are you in favor of that?

Yes!

They are GROWNUPS and KNEW what they were getting into when they SIGNED the papers!

Read the LAW!

[Elsie]

Only a catastrophic misreading of that material could result in such a ridiculous comment.

Only a catastrophic misreading of the Scriptures you provided could come up with a MORTAL sin.

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Frankly, I doubt that you read it at all.

Two pages of 'explanations' for a few verses says SPIN: not clarity.

[central_va]

So your son or daughter goes to college works hard and gets an engineering degree. If they can even get a job on graduation they have to compete with H1-B visas holders that suppress their wages. You are OK with that?

[central_va]

You have no idea the degree of contempt I have for you.

[Elsie]

If they can even get a job on graduation they have to compete with H1-B visas holders that suppress their wages. You are OK with that?

Yup.

It is called Capitalism.

Would you rather have a different system?

[Elsie]

If they can even get a job on graduation from their 4 year apprentice program, they have to compete with non-union workers that suppress their wages.

Is THIS where you are coming from?

[Elsie]

You have no idea the degree of contempt I have for you.

You are right; I don't.

[Elsie]

You have no idea the degree of contempt I have for you.

What is your answer to the article's dilemma?

“We have a very skilled workforce, but they are getting older,” says Wright, who employs 1,200 people at three Ohio factories. “I don’t know where we are going to find replacements.”

[central_va]

It is simply supply and demand. If wages are allowed to increase then more people will train for the jobs and acquire the skills. Everyone believes in the free market except when it comes to labor, slavers like yourself want to undercut the process.

[central_va]

I can distinguish between American non-union workers and imported foreigners. If you can then you are dangerous to the republic. What percent of private sector US workers are in unions? Do you know?

[central_va]

I say we send to China one American, like yourself, for each imported wage slave. Fair?

[Elsie]

If wages are allowed to increase then more people will train for the jobs and acquire the skills.

ALLOWED?

Who does the controlling?

In every job I ever had, the employer said what he'd pay and I either accepted or countered.

[Elsie]

Everyone believes in the free market except when it comes to labor, slavers like yourself want to undercut the process.

Slaver?

Strong words.

Undercut?

How?

What have I done to the market?

[Elsie]

Can I go to GERMANY instead?

[central_va]

You can go to a hotter place.

[central_va]

I believe in borders and national identity. If we have 300,000,000 people and free markets INSIDE the USA then there will never be a labor shortage. If the business plan of a company includes the need to import labor then they need a new plan. I can get a citizen to work for me in any field if I am willing to pay the prevailing wage. Importing foreigners is a political decision one where I get to try and stop-politically. I believe in free markets right up to the waters edge. Then again I am a loyal American, what are you?

[central_va]

Where you in a career field, like software or engineering, that has H1-B visa holders competing for your job?

[Elsie]

I can get a citizen to work for me in any field if I am willing to pay the prevailing wage.

Who sets this?

[Elsie]

... I am a loyal American, what are you?

Can I then assume that you've let your REPRESENTATIVEs in power know your feelings?

THEY are the ones that make policy; not me.

Have you told THEM about that Hotter Place?

[Elsie]

Where you in a career field, like software or engineering, that has H1-B visa holders competing for your job?

Is ANYone in a field that has NO ONE 'competing for their job'?