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I question Messina's assumption that obama will win all 19 Kerry states:

CA
CT
DE
HI
IL
MA
MD
ME
MI
MN
NH
NJ
NY
OR
PA
RI
VT
WA
WI

1 posted on 12/13/2011 10:04:52 PM PST by matt1234
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To: matt1234

Curious as to what Kenny Loggins 5 scenarios are....


2 posted on 12/13/2011 10:06:50 PM PST by RealImmigrant (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: matt1234

Looking at the 19, I would say the shakiest for the Dims are:

1. WI that was stolen from Bush twice and has a voter ID law now.

2. NH that Bush won in 2000.

3. PA that was very close in 2000 and 2008.


3 posted on 12/13/2011 10:13:24 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: matt1234

I would concede those 19 states except for MN, NH, PA and WI but that’s a lot of votes and I don’t see Obama picking off any other states but those unless the GOP nominee is a total failure, which is a distinct possibility.


4 posted on 12/13/2011 10:15:27 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: matt1234

People are nuts if they think 2012 is a slam dunk. It may well be another squeaker that we have seen so much of lately.


5 posted on 12/13/2011 10:15:35 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: matt1234
Because of immigration and...emigration, the campaign believes Arizona is very much in play. Winning Arizona gives Obama 257 votes, and some breathing room for any of these other scenarios.

Just forget that fantasy. Arizona is a Republican lock. Everybody hates Obama here, even a majority of Hispanic-Americans. And the illegals who might have been coerced or bribed to vote for him have largely fled to California or Texas.

8 posted on 12/13/2011 10:25:26 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: matt1234

Not a word about voter fraud..
The democrats have been perfecting it for 30 years.. maybe 50 years..

All the aborted babies have been replaced by Mexican illegals which are proto-democrats..
Not to speak of multiple voting per voter in some districts..

Hopefully american demographic corruption has not reach critical mass..
Zero Obamas handlers have been brilliant, so far..
Cloward-Piven tactics is pure genius..

If the House was smart they would pass voter identification laws fast..


15 posted on 12/13/2011 11:15:11 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: matt1234

The Southern route through NC and Virginia? Hah, ain’t gonna happen.
The Kerry 19 won’t happen either.


18 posted on 12/14/2011 4:14:17 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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