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Christopher Hitchens, militant pundit, dies at 62
The Washington Times ^ | December 16, 2011 | Hillel Italie

Posted on 12/16/2011 5:22:24 AM PST by markomalley

Cancer weakened, but did not soften Christopher Hitchens. He did not repent or forgive or ask for pity. As if granted diplomatic immunity, his mind’s eye looked plainly upon the attack and counterattack of disease and treatments that robbed him of his hair, his stamina, his speaking voice and eventually his life.

“I love the imagery of struggle,” he wrote about his illness in an August 2010 essay in Vanity Fair. “I sometimes wish I were suffering in a good cause, or risking my life for the good of others, instead of just being a gravely endangered patient.”

Hitchens, a Washington, D.C.-based author, essayist and polemicist who waged verbal and occasional physical battle on behalf of causes left and right, died Thursday night at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston of pneumonia, a complication of his esophageal cancer, according to a statement from Vanity Fair magazine. He was 62.

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To: cricket
My point was that after death there is no “God's Mercy”.

You are right I don't know for certain that there wasn't a “deathbed” conversion.

The scriptures say that it is appointed for man to die once, and then the judgment. None of this good works business.

101 posted on 12/16/2011 7:39:10 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: markomalley

I wouldn’t want to be him right now. My belief is about 1 second after he died he was having deep regrets. I feel sorry for him.


102 posted on 12/16/2011 7:40:51 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: MarDav

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

these 2 verses should be reversed to read:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Not perfect...just forgiven...


103 posted on 12/16/2011 7:41:59 AM PST by MarDav
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To: A_perfect_lady

Are you saying that God is an imaginary friend?


104 posted on 12/16/2011 7:43:15 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: driftless2

Merry Christmas, my FRiend! And may God have mercy on CH soul.


105 posted on 12/16/2011 7:44:08 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Guenevere

I do NOT believe that spreading lies in a convincing fashion will allow you entrance into the Kingdom of God. Only through the blood of Jesus.

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
JOHN 3:16

If being a skilled orator gets you into Heaven, then expect Hitler to be there....


106 posted on 12/16/2011 7:45:08 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: A_perfect_lady

If you’re a Christian, you believe Jesus IS God. End of lesson.


107 posted on 12/16/2011 7:47:05 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Live the rest of your life in evil and you’ll get to know his oppinion.


108 posted on 12/16/2011 7:48:18 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: faucetman
*‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’*

It makes me wonder if he wishes that he could come back and warn Dawkins, like the rich man wanted to warn his family....

109 posted on 12/16/2011 7:48:53 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: faucetman
The scriptures says that God is not willing that any would perish.

I believe that God's heart broken when He is rejected.

110 posted on 12/16/2011 7:52:48 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Coldwater Creek

That’s been my problem all through this thread.

My Lord and Savior is not an imaginary friend.


111 posted on 12/16/2011 7:57:20 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

It’s a sad thing when someone goes to Hell. even an enemy of God:

Ezekiel 18:23 “Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?”


112 posted on 12/16/2011 8:01:28 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: netmilsmom

1 Cor. 2:10-16 tells us how to know the mind of God.


113 posted on 12/16/2011 8:01:32 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: netmilsmom

I agree mom, the comment smacks of sarcasm and the commenter appears to have an emptiness inside IMHO. Seems like a response a liberal would render.


114 posted on 12/16/2011 8:08:00 AM PST by libertymaker
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To: A_perfect_lady

You don’t believe in God, so you don’t believe in Hell. What do you care?


115 posted on 12/16/2011 8:08:56 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: PATRIOT1876

Amen!


116 posted on 12/16/2011 8:13:03 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Coldwater Creek

>>1 Cor. 2:10-16 tells us how to know the mind of God.<<

To know the mind of God in the sense that this scripture is speaking, tells you nothing of the last moments of this man’s life.

There is a reason why “our life flashes before our eyes”.
If CH was shown his life and still rejected God, he is condemned, plain and simple.

However, we don’t know how God’s mercy worked with him specifically. We don’t know that God did not show CH just the thing that would have him recognize how wrong he was.

I believe in God’s mercy. If you want to simply believe that you know absolutely, cool. I’m not going to make that assumption. If you were standing in the crowd by Christ and the thief in their last minutes, you would have thought the thief was condemned too, because you don’t know what went on in those last moments.


117 posted on 12/16/2011 8:24:04 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Arrowhead1952
how bad the school systems are and teachers are scum.

Not all of them. I personally know several bright, intelligent, competent teachers who are also caring about their students. Of course, they feel like foreign agents in the midst of the education industry and often must teach surreptitiously in officially unapproved ways to impart knowledge to their students.

118 posted on 12/16/2011 8:27:26 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Apparently I did miss it but so would have the lady complaining because she is from California and would not have seen the Texas message board. If teacher bashing was a very big deal I think I would have seen it as much time as I spend here. Everything gets bashed occasionally but I repeat “no big deal”.
119 posted on 12/16/2011 8:29:53 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I know all about what a creep Mohammed was. My point is, if you have nothing to lose and there is some slim possibility that God would be pleased, why not do it.

Let's face it; some of the kings of the Old Testament were just as lecherous, greedy, and nasty as Mohammed. That's simply the nature of the Middle East.

120 posted on 12/16/2011 8:35:39 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: sam_paine

Yes, Pascal’s wager was basically “what have you got to lose?” And I’m simply adding to that: what have you got to lose by continuing to believe in God and Jesus, and also facing East when you pray, just to show God that you are so eager to heed His word that you’ll give a nod of respect to the other Abrahamic religion. After all, presumably you follow certain elements of Judaic law, Old Testament injunctions like the Ten Commandments even though you, as saved by Jesus, don’t really have to. You do it to show your love. So face East when you pray. Just in case. Why not. What have you got to lose?


121 posted on 12/16/2011 8:39:50 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I personally know several bright, intelligent, competent teachers who are also caring about their students.

Our neighbor and a family friend are also teachers and very competent. They are also very conservative and really care about the students as does our daughter. They all have students that pass the TAKS (Tx assessment of knowledge and skills test) with no problems.

122 posted on 12/16/2011 8:44:19 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Ditter
Apparently I did miss it . . . Everything gets bashed occasionally

I've missed stuff on the TX board when I stay off for a couple of days - which is rare - and post something on the TX board. Everything more than a day or so is gone after one post. Yup, TX FReepers bash a lot of things, especially DannyH - I need respect.

123 posted on 12/16/2011 8:49:06 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: netmilsmom

I think my ambivalence toward Hitchens comes from his employment of such prodigious talents on behalf of such paltry, ephemeral causes.


124 posted on 12/16/2011 8:50:34 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: markomalley

Quite a character, whatever else one may say.


125 posted on 12/16/2011 9:25:00 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: markomalley
Interesting that the last word he wrote was "gaffe."

He now knows Truth, and I hope God is merciful on his soul for his recognition at how wrong he was all these years.

126 posted on 12/16/2011 9:30:27 AM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Well, that "if you have nothing to lose" part is a biggie. I have become convinced that adhering to a wicked spiritual master will pull you into places you'd rather not go, both in this life and in the next.

Second, religious profession based on "Right or wrong, I'll sign onto anything if it's to my own personal advantage" is spiritually depraved--- wouldn't you agree?

Third, there is a big difference between Biblical history and Biblical Law. Biblical history is full of homiciders, woman-abusers, looter-heroes, Israelite and Canaanite gang-bangers, long lines of apostate swindler-kings (check out Jesus' genealogy starting at Matthew 1:1)--- with glimemrs of "there is something better" "something better is coming" --- and then Jesus, symbolically framed between Elijah and Moses at Tabor as perfect fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets.

While you're scoping the Genealogy at Matthew 1, you might also want to check out the Six Antitheses at Matthew 5:21-48.

This is not OT patriarchal desert-rat proto-Mohammadism. This is the Good Stuff.

127 posted on 12/16/2011 9:48:23 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: markomalley
What I can't understand is why Hitchens "hated" Mother Teresa, from his youth.

Indeed, may God have mercy on his soul. R.I.P.

128 posted on 12/16/2011 10:23:21 AM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: dfwgator

“Let’s face it, mankind has invented religions throughout the ages, to cynically use the concept of God to advance their own personal ambitions.”
__________________________________________

Man has invented religions because he is aware of his spiritual need, but is too proud and stubborn to humble himself before his true Creator, so he manufactures rituals and worships demons instead - or tries to be ‘good’ according to his own definition. These religions are the ABC Religions - Anything But Christ.


129 posted on 12/16/2011 10:26:30 AM PST by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: esquirette

‘If Satan took over Philadelphia, all of the bars would be closed, pornography banished, and pristine streets would be filled with tidy pedestrians who smiled at each other. There would be no swearing. The children would say, “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am,” and the churches would be full every Sunday . . . where Christ is not preached.’

-Donald Grey Barnhouse


130 posted on 12/16/2011 10:42:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: A_perfect_lady

“Now comes the march of those who absolutely cannot stand anyone who can’t be bullied into kow-towing to their Imaginary Friend. How dare the man have the dignity to ignore all those threats of Hell — the spiritual equivalent of “pass on this chain letter or you’ll have bad luck.” But some people just can’t be intimidated by the myths of any culture, and it really galls those who are.”

Beautifully said. Hear, hear!


131 posted on 12/16/2011 10:52:29 AM PST by balls (0 lies like a Muslim (Google "taqiyya"))
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To: P-Marlowe; muawiyah; xzins
If an unbeliever can redeem himself in any manner whatsoever then the sacrifice of Christ was in vain.

Amen Brother!

132 posted on 12/16/2011 10:52:54 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: dfwgator

Wonder where he is now - dead or alive.....


133 posted on 12/16/2011 11:45:33 AM PST by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: A_perfect_lady; betty boop
".. there are two contingencies on here I cannot stand: the teacher-bashers, and the smug Christians who pop up on threads informing us all of who is going to Hell."

"Ironically, one of the reasons men of potentially gifted intellect reject religion is that they mistakenly believe there is no place for the intellect in religion, a misapprehension that is most certainly reinforced by popular caricatures of religion that are engendered by none other than religious doofuses themselves. ...."

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"..So it is not so much that certain strands of thought are wrong because they are modern or postmodern. Rather, they're just wrong, period. On the other hand, many postmodern ideas are obviously correct. For example, I have no idea why materialists still exist, since modern physics utterly obliterated their anachronistic worldview a century ago. No serious thinker can be a materialist, which is why a Christopher Hitchens is obviously a brilliant man in terms of raw candle power, but extraordinarily naive in his background assumptions of how the physical (let alone spiritual) world works. He is not postmodern at all, but operating out of a defunct, 19th century Victorian picture of the world."

134 posted on 12/16/2011 1:11:50 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: SVTCobra03
"Don’t take the Mark."

The first part of THIS is for you.

135 posted on 12/16/2011 1:16:53 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Coldwater Creek

‘After death’? Seems to me; that is the most likely ‘time’ per Judgement.. .but then; what do we know about the timing of a soul’s judgment. I would offer - we know nothing about God’s timing. And given God is all-wise; suspect He can figure the ‘when/how/what’ per his own disposition.


136 posted on 12/16/2011 1:42:09 PM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/ and Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
What's wrong with “teacher bashing”? I'm old enough to remember some really good ones, so I know how good they can be and how mediocre they have become.
137 posted on 12/16/2011 1:45:05 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: dartuser

One way or the other, he now knows the truth.


138 posted on 12/16/2011 1:48:18 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I am an atheist. I don’t care about religion in any form, but enjoy Free Republic tremendously and support it financially each year.

I believe in treating people equally (all of us have inviolate human rights and economic freedoms) but I don’t base those sentiments on any kind of theology.

I am not interested in theology or afterlife discussions.

Others should be free to develop those faith-based models as they feel necessary or important.

Most of those who believe in a God tend to be supportive of self-responsible conduct and respect for equal rights. I appreciate that, whatever the origins of their beliefs.

Practical reciprocity, core human decency, or deity based.

It’s all good.

Human liberty, whatever the belief system from which it is argued or based, is the goal for a humane and just society.

Good for you, APL.


139 posted on 12/16/2011 4:24:39 PM PST by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: 4Liberty

I try not to be a wench about it, but there are so many threads on here devoted to the religion faction, and dissent is not allowed. Fine. I stay off those threads. But when an atheist dies, I hate them coming over here smirking and wagging their tails. I figure if I have the decency to stay off their turf, they ought to stay away from this and just let the man be buried in peace without their self-righteous twaddle.


140 posted on 12/16/2011 6:36:07 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Matchett-PI; A_perfect_lady; Alamo-Girl; xzins; allmendream; tacticalogic
"Ironically, one of the reasons men of potentially gifted intellect reject religion is that they mistakenly believe there is no place for the intellect in religion, a misapprehension that is most certainly reinforced by popular caricatures of religion that are engendered by none other than religious doofuses themselves. ...."

This from the estimable "Gagdad Bob," a/k/a Robert Godwin, clinical psychologist/philosopher, on the seemingly inexplicable propensity of human beings to construct totally unlivable "ersatz-realities" in their system(s) of thought. (Or so I gather.)

In an earlier writing — his book One Cosmos under God: The Unification of Matter, Life, Mind and Spirit, Godwin was much more expansive re: who is to be included within his analytical category of "constructors" of alternative, or "second" realities. It turns out this category encompasses, not only the "religious doofuses," but "indoctrinated 'scientists'" as well:

Early Desert Fathers of Christianity such as Origen railed against ... concrete thinking, in that "to take the language of the Bible 'literally' was for him to empty it of all transcendent reference, to confine it to the 'corporeal' world. Allegory was required to give the biblical text appropriate depth and density of meaning." Harris points out that what religion promulgates in its early, concrete form is likely "a representation at some more or less developed stage, of what emerges under criticism as a metaphysical concept." Ironically, both religious fundamentalists and spiritually bereft secularists are identical in approaching scripture in such an unsophisticated, concrete, and literal manner. In both cases ... the "factuality" of scripture is the focus of critical attention, rather than its "pointing beyond itself."

On this criterion, both doctrinaire religious and dedicated atheists stand on the same cognitive and fideistic ground: Both allow themselves to be "defined" by their ideological commitments, by the doctrine they hold, without first exploring the causes and implications of their doctrinal commitment, in Real terms.... That is, according to actual human experience, individual, social, and historical.

Godwin continues:

But irrespective of whether or not something actually "happened" in an historical sense, the historical (or horizontal) perspective of any scripture is only useful insofar as it helps to illuminate a non-historical or "vertical" dimension operating outside chronological time. Both religious and scientific fundamentalists attempt to locate in historical time what can only be found in metaphysical space, and mistakenly regard conventional history as more "real" than the deeper or higher truth from which it is a declension. To cite just one example, one may believe that Moses led the enslaved Israelites out of the death-cult of Egypt and into freedom. But what relevance does this have for us today, unless it is still possible, with divine assistance, to escape the spiritual earth-cult of our own psychic Egypt and be led toward the higher Light and Life?.... [O]ne could almost define scripture as a special kind of language that operates in a top-down fashion, containing material from every stage and dimension of reality, from the mystical, noetic, and spiritual, to the moral and psychological, to the mythic and allegorical, to the concrete, material and historical. And this is precisely why it is so easy for billions or people to get caught up in the most concrete and literal aspect of scripture. oblivious to the higher and more subtle meanings it contains, for "they have ears, but hear not."

RE: your second cite, dear Matchett-PI, Godwin's notice that a thinker like this — e.g., the late Christopher Hitchens — is not postmodern at all, but rather is truly "operating out of a defunct, 19th century Victorian picture of the world": O my word, what a brilliant insight! (IMHO of course.)

And I would only add, Hitchens — R.I.P. — has plenty of still-living company: E.g., the "usual suspects" Dawkins, Lewontin, Monod, Dennett, Harris, et al. That is, professional atheists, scientific materialists who are pleased to sacrifice the depth and feeling of human thinking and experience to some "abstract," doctrinal blueprint which seems to bear no correspondence or resemblance to the world of reality of common human experience — individual, social, historical....

Really, such folk have been "outdated" by the amazing insights of 20th-century physics. The problem is, it seems such folk simply, doggedly refuse to notice such developments, or to consider how they might be relevant to the "field of biology."...

Thank you ever so much for writing, dear Matchett-PI!

141 posted on 12/16/2011 6:39:57 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: A_perfect_lady

You know, I should be sad that perfect lady and those of you cheering her on don’t know Jesus, but I find that, perhaps because I am not mature enough in my faith yet to feel otherwise, I feel more pity for you because you’re the sort of miserable bungholes who would cheer on a meanspirited and bigoted post like that.

Before I go on, don’t assume I’m writing this way out of hurt feelings or a feeling of persecution. No, not even close. Not even on the same continent.

You see, you claim reason and you claim offense for harsh things said by believers on this forum, but I can’t help thinking of my two brothers and so many of my unchurched friends. Some of them are gay and one of them (my best man, in fact) is an atheist. Like you, they don’t have Jesus. Unlike you, they would never think of hating pople who think differently than them, especially those who express a hope that they will change their lives and spend eternity in a place too wonderful to describe.

In short, you have the stench of Bill Maher on you.

Chris Hitchens was a smart man and a brilliant writer, but he and so many secularists are bigoted morons when it comes to “reason” versus faith because they can see the difference between, say, Steven Hawking and Pol Pot but not the difference between Thomas Aquinas and Fred Phelps or C. S. Lewis and Osama bin Laden.

And yet they claim to be rational, claim to be rejecting a mere “Imaginary Friend,” claim to be too noble to kow-tow to “bullies.” They call that “reason.”

Sad. Just sad. It must suck to be that miserable.


142 posted on 12/16/2011 7:05:48 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: A_perfect_lady; strider44; se_ohio_young_conservative; Rum Tum Tugger; ladyrustic; balls; ...

You know, I should be sad that perfect lady and those of you cheering her on don’t know Jesus, but I find that, perhaps because I am not mature enough in my faith yet to feel otherwise, I feel more pity for you because you’re the sort of miserable bungholes who would cheer on a meanspirited and bigoted post like that.

Before I go on, don’t assume I’m writing this way out of hurt feelings or a feeling of persecution. No, not even close. Not even on the same continent.

You see, you claim reason and you claim offense for harsh things said by believers on this forum, but I can’t help thinking of my two brothers and so many of my unchurched friends. Some of them are gay and one of them (my best man, in fact) is an atheist. Like you, they don’t have Jesus. Unlike you, they would never think of hating pople who think differently than them, especially those who express a hope that they will change their lives and spend eternity in a place too wonderful to describe.

In short, you have the stench of Bill Maher on you.

Chris Hitchens was a smart man and a brilliant writer, but he and to many secularists are bigoted morons when it comes to “reason” versus faith because they can see the difference between, say, Steven Hawking and Pol Pot but not the difference between Thomas Aquinas and Fred Phelps or C. S. Lewis and Osama bin Laden. They’re no better than the sort of Christian who believes every atheist (or every sceintist, etc.) thinks like Peter Singer.

And yet they claim to be rational, claim to be rejecting a mere “Imaginary Friend,” claim to be too noble to kow-tow to “bullies.” They call that “reason” and say it’s the best the West has to offer.

Sad. Just sad. It must suck to be that miserable.


143 posted on 12/16/2011 7:10:06 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: silverleaf
Suffering in a good cause- like many people of faith do all of their lives.

Like, say...Mother Teresa. :-)

144 posted on 12/16/2011 7:12:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: SamAdams76
Hopefully in heaven, he will have a special space set aside for them so that the rest of us don't have to spend eternity listening to them clucking their tongues and lecturing us on our shortcomings.

Not that I'm one of them, but...will God be setting aside a spot for you guys so we won't have to hear you clucking your tongues and lecturing us on our shortcomings? Seriously, it seems for every stuck up christian there are ten people complaining about them.

145 posted on 12/16/2011 7:21:03 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: Ditter

No matter how bad the schools get, there’s always going to be a certain group of Freepers who call it teacher bashing to criticize the public schools. You could be in a thread about Obama making Jerry Sandusky the Secretary of Education and they would all say “Well, my kid’s school is great.” They all think that because their stateroom isn’t underwater yet the Titanic is in great shape.


146 posted on 12/16/2011 7:25:26 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Unlike you, they would never think of hating pople who think differently than them, especially those who express a hope that they will change their lives and spend eternity in a place too wonderful to describe.

I don't hate Christians. I've always said, "Christians will nag you, but Muslims will kill you." I just think you have incredibly bad manners to come drooling over the not-yet-cool body to assure each other that unlike YOU, he's not going to Heaven (smirk, smirk). If you people had a modicum of manners, we'd all get along a lot better. And you'd all be a better advertisement for what you believe. But that's not hatred. If I hate someone, I want to kill them. I just want to avoid you. We stay off your devotional threads. It'd be lovely if you had a trace of decency and could see a time and place that it is inappropriate for your nonsense.

147 posted on 12/16/2011 7:25:47 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: netmilsmom

He has an infinite regard for justice, too. If we accept the gift of salvation, both are satisfied. If not...


148 posted on 12/16/2011 7:27:17 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Well that’s what I’m hoping on.


149 posted on 12/16/2011 7:28:12 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 48 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I know plenty of nice teahchers. It’s the system that is the problem. The funny thing is if Joe Teacher abuses a kid, the pro-public school brigade on FR defends the system and calls anything else “teacher-bashing.”


150 posted on 12/16/2011 7:29:42 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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