That might generate a counter reaction from his allies toward whomever would put out that hit order.
Posted on 12/18/2011 7:13:39 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Kim Jong-il is dead
Hey Tiger I hear that perhaps Chia Pet died of diabetes complication French Doctor went further on AL jazeera he claim that he warn the family if you want Chia Pet live longer put him on A diet
I know it sound crazy IT IS TRUE
I curious did why they leave out diabetes complication?
I curious did why they leave out diabetes complication?
Hey Tiger did they think they embalm Chia Pet he look they didn’t embalm him
Wonder how long they can pull that off if UN decides to turn another direction? He will not do so any time soon...but I can imagine that possibiity....though it hardly looks possible.
I say this because all wars and conflicts generally begin in the most unexpected ways and places...and usually not anticipated....never underestimate the hand of God moving the willing and seemingly insignificant
Another strange coincidence that Kim Il Sung became very conciliatory towards the US just days before his sudden death in 1994. It was Kim Jong Il who ran North Korea’s nuclear program. A defector later said that Kim Il Sung died during an argument with his son.
Fair to say I enjoy going back to see this man layed out. Rejoicing that the beast is gone says it well. His face looks bloated enough to think he’s been dead longer than the press is saying.
North Korea after Kim Jong Il
By Michael J. Green, Published: December 20
Since the death of Kim Il Sung in 1994 , the U.S. and South Korean governments have gamed scenarios for the collapse of the North, with the triggering event usually posited as the death of Kim Jong Il . While Kim did not spend decades grooming his heir the way he was prepared for leadership, he did leave in place a governing structure to protect his family. The generals and party leadership have every incentive to support Kim Jong Eun as the “Great Successor” and his uncle, Jang Song Taek, as the power behind the throne: Their own survival depends on a successful transition. In the coming months, the most likely scenario is not instability but national mourning and a retreat from recent diplomatic interaction with the United States and South Korea.
By the middle of next year, however, fissures may be apparent within the regime. Commentators frequently explain North Korean nuclear and missile tests as demonstrations of pique or efforts to gain concessions. That is true in the tactical sense of when exactly Pyongyang chooses overt demonstrations of its weapons development. It is not true, however, in a strategic sense: The North Koreans have a long-term program for developing nuclear weapons and using that power to make demands of the United States as an equal nuclear weapons state. And the North Korean propaganda machine long ago marked 2012, the 100th anniversary of Kim Il Sung’s birth, as the year the North achieves that status.
Well then let's just go in there and take out their nuclear sites? It's not like we don't know where they are. The only thing standing in the way is China....and that's where the rubber meets the road.
Terse, slow, dispondent, tear jerking announcements at the top of the hour of his death (with sobbing), followed by new announcements of him lying in state at Kumsusang Palace under glass, prefaced by the full laborious announcement of all of his various positions in North Korea; reading thelist of official state party mourners beginning with Kim Jong Eun, military martial (aggressive) music at times; lilting, sad, instrumentals, The March of General Kim Jong il, followed by the Communist Internationale (instrumental), then funeral music, the reading of messages of condolences from world leaders such as Raul Castro, King Norodom Sihamoni of Cambodia, Hu Jin Tao of China, Mededev of Russia, Chavez of Venezuela, etc. etc. etc., then repeat for another a hour. This can be clearly heard in Japan. Some of it is on tape, because I recognize the same crying in the same method by the announcer in certain stories. It is all inward facing, nothing belligerent toward South Korea, Japan or the US at this point. Simply mourning. 90% of it on the saddness of the departure of Kim Jong il, and 10% (and growing) of the prowess and stability of great leader and genius, young Kim Jong Eun.
Apparently general Kim Kyuk-sik is not on the funeral committee list. He was the one who orchestrated the shelling of Yonpyeong Island last year. Considering his military rank, he should have been in the list. This is viewed as an indication that he is being turned into a non-entity. Previously he enjoyed utmost confidence of Kim's and was one of the most powerful figures. Since the shelling turned out to be such a political disaster, whether he spearhead it or was simply carrying an order, he must have been held responsible.
Public sentiment turned decidedly against N.Korean regime after the shelling. In all age groups. Any suggestion of appeasement brings public resentment, especially among military-age young males.
That might generate a counter reaction from his allies toward whomever would put out that hit order.
What kind of forces did Kim Kyuk-sik lead? Artillery forces in the Yellow Sea region? Armored division? Coastal forces?
Just wonder what kind of forces he could muster if he wanted to try something like a coup?
Remind me alot when Chia pet father kick the bucket whole country went nuts over grief
I waiting for Chia Pet sister go KILL Bill on everybody I don’t think she go Kill Bill on her nephew I think one of those Regime that need figurehead Chia Chub is figurehead she is in Charge
Remind you of ancient Chinese/Korean royal family back in da day like Maurgret Bedfort who set up Henry VIII take the throne Empress Mathila who put her son Henry 2 on the throne
That type of a Queen Mother
One of them was this:
Got on a train at Pyongyang to leave DPRK for China, but upon being told Kim Jong il was dead, NEVERTHELESS DID NOT CRY, and were accordingly pulled off the train by Public Security Bureau people and not allowed to go. They were then only allowed back on the train when they would cry publicly by copying and feigning the crying that was going on around them by others, by North Koreans. This is a mass staged event folks (no surprise), but foreigners are leaking it, which is great source information.
DPRK is also encouraging foreigners to leave Japan and ramping up efforts for them to get out, and foreign students at Kim Il Sung university are being told by their instructors to not go out, stay inside, not mingle with people outside, etc. etc. in connection with Kim's death. There were some reports of foreigners turned back from public mourning places, when they wanted to show up and watch or bring flowers. Obviously the new regime is worried about unauthorized information flows, tweets, hidden cameras and facebook, that kind of thing (if possible, I guess one would need a sat phone, or some way to record, microchip it, and get it out of the country or upload it somehow from a machine with an international connection...very risky indeed). There were other reports (which I kind of predicted) that the North Koreans working at the Kaesong joint North-South industrial complex, were not showing any necessarily heavy signs of stress or sadness over Kim Jong il, once that story leaks, they may shut those places down, or have guidance meetings to train and force them to start crying on the job in front of South Korean managers there. I am afraid that unlike 1994, they just are not going to be able to in this age control information flows and keep the goings on a complete secret)....Bottom line, there is no true grief up ther except perhaps only in the closest family and Party circles, but certainly not by the average North Korean. It is all a big show. Vigorously cry publicly, or be summarily tortured, imprisoned, or executed. Your choice.
Bump. Forgot you.
I not suprise I think they telling everybody CRY OR ELSE go to Gulgug that what I thinking right now
That weird
Here kicker they not allow foreign diplomat come to funeral I never hear that before did Soviets did that back in da day I think George Bush Sr went all Russia leader funeral
And the Leadership really expects the world will buy this parade of sorrow?.... I'm not convinced it's only for the world show...rather once again to instill fear into the people that the leadership expects compliance to every whim regardless of the change in command.
...can you imagine the rage these people have within them and no way to release it except thru "allowable" tears? I tend to think some of this is very real but has nothing to do with Kim's death.
I thought UN made the call on that attack and it basically backfired so this guy was the fall guy and took the credit to spare UN the embarrassment before the public, since it was to make UN look in charge and tough.
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