Kim Jong-il is dead [Main Thread]

[TigerLikesRooster]

Kim Jong-il is dead

[caww]

When I see a photo such as that I cannot help but see that leadership equally to blame as Kim Il ....they are equally as liable for the state of their country and it's people.

[seton89]

Comrade Chavez is lookin’ kinda punky

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70694.html

[Jmouse007]

“In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment"... (Luke 16:23a

I thank almighty God that this wicked, evil man is now in hell awaiting his final, eternal destination: The Lake of Fire.

God had mercifully given Kim Jung Il, a very long time and many opportunities to turn to the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness and salvation from his sin before it was eternally too late. Billy Graham even shared the Lord Jesus Christ with him, but he habitually refused to repent and turn from his wicked ways.

The untold miseries he has visited upon his own people are beyond measure and he is now going to suffer for every last one of them, forever.

My prayer is that his son will have a change of heart and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and that he would become a godly leader who would undo the heinous policies of his grandfather and father and that he would set his people free. If not; may he SOON join his inglorious father by experiencing his own "Chauchesque (sp?} moment.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Ceaucescu

[TigerLikesRooster]

He was the head of 4th Corps. I know it includes multiple rocket launchers, shore artillery, coastal defense, navy. I am not sure if it has offensive amphibious units. I don't know exactly the nature of 4th Corps except that it commands both ground and naval units.

[M1903A1]

What a perfect time to pimp my North Korea Funky Disco Party video:

http://youtu.be/lwoSFQb5HVk

Can we assume there will be an update?

(Even given the Norks' rather stunted ways of celebrating...)

[Jmouse007]

Thank you.... I hope his own people give him his very own “Ceaucescu moment” real soon, if he will not repent.

[yank in the UK]

Reading about how North Koreans actually believe that Kim Jong Il hit 11 hole in ones on a brand new golf course in Pyongyang and that he invented the cheeseburger,makes me think the whole damg country’s been walking around with their eyes closed

[TigerLikesRooster]

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/12/21/2011122101014.html

Loud Weeping, Tense Silence in N.Korea

Masses of people in Pyongyang paid their respects to dead North Korean leader Kim Jong-il on Tuesday, much as they had done the previous day, while a tense regime clamped down on all other activities.

China's state-run CCTV broadcast the images of thousands of Pyongyang residents paying their respects in Kim Il-sung Square and the Pyongyang Gymnasium. But the streets were almost empty and few people were seen at bus stops where they usually form long lines. Flags hung at half-mast and most restaurants and shops were closed, it said. AP said Pyongyang remained orderly even while apparently grief-stricken.

The North is deporting foreigners out of Pyongyang, Sinuiju and the Rajin-Sonbong special economic zone, and restricting travel. Missionaries and businessmen of U.S. nationality who were engaged in charity work in the economic zone and Sinuiju were forced to leave. A Chinese man who took a flight from Pyongyang on Tuesday said, “Foreigners weren't allowed to leave their accommodation after Kim Jong-il’s death was announced.” The North Korean authorities are also stopping foreigners from entering and are issuing no new visas until Dec. 29.

Controls in the North have been strengthened further. In major cities all gatherings of over four people except to mourn the dead leader's death have been banned, and armed soldiers have been positioned in the streets. The Daily NK quoted a source in Onsong as saying the soldiers warned people not to move or pay the price.

[TigerLikesRooster]

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2011/12/21/64/0301000000AEN20111221002800315F.HTML

Defectors attempt to break into N. Korean embassy in London

LONDON, Dec. 21 (Yonhap) -- A group of North Korean defectors tried unsuccessfully to enter the country's London embassy following news reports of the death of the North's leader Kim Jong-il.

The incident occurred when four North Korean residents in London went to the embassy in western London late Tuesday, local time, in a bid to protest the former leader's brutal rule.

After ringing the doorbell several times to no response, they shouted anti-Kim Jong-il slogans and clapped loudly in front of the residential building used as the North's embassy.

The defectors also pasted Kim's portrait and anti-Kim Jong-il documents on the embassy door and placed a bunch of flowers outside in a show of celebration of Kim's death.

The documents, written in both Korean and English, were headlined, "In congratulation of Chairman Kim Jong-il's death."

Police were called by embassy officials and questioned the defectors at the scene but did not arrest them.

"The reason we regret Kim's abrupt death is because we lost our chance to judge the dictator at the people's hands," one of the defectors said. "We decided to take this action because of the (North Korean media's) pitiful portrayal of North Korean people weeping at the death."

North Korean state media announced Monday that the 69-year-old leader died of a heart attack during a train ride on Dec. 17.

Kim ruled the communist country with an iron fist since his father and the nation's late founder Kim Il-sung died in 1994.

North Korean embassy in Ealing, West London (file photo)

[AmericanInTokyo]

Assessments and movements are as follows:

Kim Jong Eun does not wield total control over the DPRK military, the Korean Peoples Army.

Kim Jong Eun however is in command of and has control over the Public Security Bureau (PSB), or Secret Police as it were. Meaning of course if he did not have control of the former or elements, he could simply use the latter to eliminate those not cooperating with him.

In fact, I recall him being put in charge of the Secret Police some time ago, and he was particularly tasked with handling the two Al Gore Reporterettes who got snagged in the DPRK and were rescued (and probably later molested in the private jet) by Bill Clinton.

And,

1) Kim Jon Eun has apparantly issued his "ORDER NUMBER ONE" or his first command order. It was to the DPRK military of all people, ordering their appropriate movements and behavior at this time. Interesting that his first order was to the entire country's military. I believe this order came today.

2) Japanese news is also now heavily speculating based on ROK sources that the "heart attack/death on a train" by Kim Jong il is an outright fabrication:

LINK

3) Sankei News (conservative) in Japan is openly speculating on the possibility of assassination of Kim Jong il.

[AmericanInTokyo]

"all gatherings of over four people except to mourn the dead leader's death have been banned"

Now, if possible, would be the time to foment an anti-Kim Dynasty popular uprising, starting from the villages, towns and provinces and heading for Pyongyang, perhaps starting in the Northern Provinces so if it gets hot and the noose tightens, people in the leadership of it can at least have the option of escaping to China, or perhaps getting out by boat.

[AmericanInTokyo]

DPRK Embassy in United Kingdom
Address: 73 Gunnersbury Avenue, London W5 4LP
Telephone: (44) (20) 8992-4965
Facsimile: (44) (20) 8992-2053

[AmericanInTokyo]

Nobody can tell me that in his health condition, and the state of trains in DPRK, that this man was training around the People's Paradise with this kind of temperature on or about 17 December Saturday, when it is alleged he kicked the bucket (0830 local). A lot of problems with this story (Chart is Pyongyang, temperature in celcius):

[AmericanInTokyo]

There is some speculation who the young lady is behind Fat Boy, and looks from the size of it, it could be his wife. I think there are indications he is married. Not bad looking for a Communist, but I'd have nothing to do with her thats for sure. I am sure Laz wouldnt 'hit it', too.

[AdmSmith]

More info about Kim Kyok Sik

He has a Syrian connection as well:

In the 1970s he served as a military attaché in Syria. Kim likely managed instructors and other training support for the ELF (in Ethiopia) and the Turkish Workers’ Party (PKK, my comment) which the DPRK provided in the early 1970s, in coordination with Syria. http://nkleadershipwatch.wordpress.com/leadership-biographies/gen-kim-kyok-sik/

[AmericanInTokyo]

Thanks! Yep!

[AmericanInTokyo]

If you ask me, it will probably be Jong Myong Hak, Choe Chan Gon, and maybe even Pang Yong Uk and others who eventually turn “turncoat” against Kim Jong-Eun and “Fishlips” and “Black Eyes”, his designated mentors and minders at the moment. But its anybody’s guess right now, and things are very fluid.

[AdmSmith]

Acquiring actionable, high-quality intelligence from North Korea, including from the highest echelons of the Korean People’s Army, requires human intelligence sources —actual spies placed in critical posts inside the North Korean deep state. Considering the elevated geopolitical significance of the Korean Peninsula, it would be foolish to suggest that South Korean and other foreign intelligence agencies have been unable to penetrate the North Korean government. But the astonished reaction by Washington, Seoul, and Tokyo, at the news of Kim Jong-Il’s death on Monday, would seem to indicate that, for the time being, Pyongyang’s powerful inner circle of state apparatchiks remains shielded from outside penetration.

http://intelnews.org/2011/12/21/01-891/

[AmericanInTokyo]

Too many toys. Not enough boys.