Notre Dame football legend "Rudy" charged in alleged pump-and-dump stock scheme

NJ.com ^ | 12/16/11

[Beagle8U]

If the story is to be believed, he couldn't even afford JC without help.

[ladyjane]

Had he not played football he never would have been able to afford college.

The idea of not being able to afford college is a myth perpetrated by liberals. Public junior colleges are not expensive.

It's all a matter of priorities and willingness to work for it.

[driftless2]

I didn’t watch the movie or read his bio, so I don’t know his financial situation. I do know that there are opportunities for lower-income students in the way of grants and loans. I find it difficult to believe that he could not have gotten a college loan or grant in some form if was an adequate student. Since he managed to do two years at Holy Cross College before he entered Notre Dame, I would guess that answers the question. He was a military vet who was already attending an accredited college before he got into Notre Dame. Whether he could have afforded Notre Dame without an athletic scholarship is separate from whether he could afford college period.

[Beagle8U]

I don't think he had to pay all of those two years at Holy Cross either per the movie, and his grades before entering were terrible, hardly passing in HS.

[1raider1]

Rudy also got an education out of the deal. Had he not played football he never would have been able to afford college.

Do walk-ons get scholarships?

[driftless2]

Well, despite less than sterling grades, he was attending college. Which begs the question: should he have been attending college? Now, I have absolutely no problem with him attending Notre Dame or any of the other particulars concerning his life. I’m just saying a student with low academic achievement managed to get into an accredited college.

[wintertime]

low-middle class students
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Why is it assumed that he was “low-middle class”. In the movie he was a steel worker. Isn't that union work with union wages and benefits?

While he may have come from **culturally** lower-middle class family, I did not get the impression that he and his parents were **financially** lower middle class.

[Lancey Howard]

While he may have come from **culturally** lower-middle class family, I did not get the impression that he and his parents were **financially** lower middle class.

Humpph humpph, yes yes..

[driftless2]

I didn’t see the movie, and assumed from comments by others that since he couldn’t afford to go to college, he was not middle-class. I have no idea what his parents made. Poor, middle-class, whatever, there were resources for him where he could have a higher education. He didn’t have to get an athletic scholarship to do it was my point.