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If Romney gets the GOP nomination, he is NOT getting my vote. Obama is a full-on Communist, and Romney can't even mutter the watered down label of Socialist? I would rather vote Third Party for Ron Paul...at least you know what you are getting.
1 posted on 12/20/2011 9:00:38 AM PST by broken_arrow1
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This is the kind of nominee we want??? A mealy-mouthed flip-flopper? Are you kidding me? And people think this guy wouldn't sell us out at the drop of a hat?

Mitt Romney would be an unmitigated disaster.

32 posted on 12/20/2011 9:49:06 AM PST by Obadiah (If U don't believe you can win, then there is no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day.)
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While the GOP plays the same game as they did in 1996 and 2008, I'm more interested in voting in the most conservative candidates down ticket. At the very least, it can pull the President in a direction if the outcry in the country is strong enough.

One thing is for certain, I am NOT a fan of Romney, and resent the establishment trying to shove him down our throats. It should make people more determined to weed those scumbags out of the GOP.

33 posted on 12/20/2011 9:50:04 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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He only goes negative on GOP candidates.


34 posted on 12/20/2011 9:50:55 AM PST by moehoward
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Romney stinks.


35 posted on 12/20/2011 9:52:36 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Here comes the Pre-Iowa, FOX-for-Romeny push! It’s all Romney, all the time.

But really? RUN Paul? If so, then get yourself ready for World War 3. He will pull our troops out of every enemy stronghold on the Planet and Iran will nuke Israel, just for starters. But first, they will over run Iraq to get all that ME Oil.


38 posted on 12/20/2011 10:00:06 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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Let’s hope Romney doesn’t get the nomination, but voting third party in mass will elect Obama again. I will vote Romney if he gets the nomination or any other Republican who is nominated. The alternative is unbearable at least to me.


39 posted on 12/20/2011 10:00:46 AM PST by wild74
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Per Mitt, Obama is in over his head and Islam is a religion of peace.

That doesn't sound like victory over our current enemies...but it does sound like a great anti-Mitt commercial.

40 posted on 12/20/2011 10:02:32 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Romney = McCain II = Obama Win in 2012
43 posted on 12/20/2011 10:17:50 AM PST by Sprite518
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When O’Reilly interviewed Rick Perry, Perry flat out called Obama a Socialist.
O’Reilly said, “Really?”..do you really believe that ?”

Perry didn’t back down !

What a contrast to Mittens !


44 posted on 12/20/2011 10:21:03 AM PST by baysider
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Romney says, "I consider him a ‘big government’ liberal democrat."

Isn't that a euphamism for Socialist??

But then says, "I'm probably not going to be calling him names so much."

Instant flip-flop! Just add camera and question!

45 posted on 12/20/2011 10:22:25 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Pretty good interview from O’Really.. I’ll have to admit..

Watching Myth twist and turn with the question was humorous in the extreme..

He just couldn’t mouth the words “SOCIALIST”... like he was having a delusional fit..
Brain washed, hypnotized or something..

If you vote for this idiot you’re part of the problem..
Probably brain washed or hypnotized yourself..


47 posted on 12/20/2011 10:22:32 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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I will not vote for a coward who has to parse words.
Give me the “undisciplined” Gingrich over this assclown Romney any day.

OF COURSE Ubama is a socialist. And “socialist” is just the polite word for “communist”.


48 posted on 12/20/2011 10:25:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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“Is he a socialist?” "I consider him a ‘big government’ liberal democrat."

Po-TAY-to, Pah-TAH-to

49 posted on 12/20/2011 10:25:41 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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In a true "no spin" zone, Romney should have been pressed to define the difference between what he calls a "big government liberal" and a "socialist." As Obama told us a few years ago, "words matter." Without definition, however, they are worthless, as in "hope and change."

With that said, however, even on the subject of what Romney loves to repeatedly call the "private sector," he falls short of explaining why and how that very description is inadequate to persuade citizens of the reasons for preferring "private" as opposed to "public." Romney, so far, shows no in-depth understanding or aptitude for explaining the concept.

On the other hand, in debating Obama's deeply-held talking points on what so-called "progressives" call the glorious "public sector" solutions to all our problems, Newt's understanding would allow him to sharply contrast how "public solution," lead to coercive control and slavery to government vs. the Founders' system of liberty through "individual enterprise" and benign(see Madison below) government influence and involvement. One idea leads to slavery and the other to individual freedom and opportunity.

The Founders' principle of freedom for individual enterprise brought America from poverty and using the crude tools of ancient Europe to the most free, progressive and prosperous destination for oppressed peoples. See the following essay excerpted from "Our Ageless Constitution," a 292-page history of the ideas of liberty in America, again available after 20 years of being out of print.

Freedom Of Individual Enterprise

The Economic Dimension Of Liberty Protected By The Constitution

"Agriculture, manufactures, commerce, and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise." - Thomas Jefferson

"The enviable condition of the people of the United States is often too much ascribed to the physical advantages of their soil & climate .... But a just estimate of the happiness of our country will never overlook what belongs to the fertile activity of a free people and the benign influence of a responsible government." - James Madison

America's Constitution did not mention freedom of enterprise per se, but it did set up a system of laws to secure individual liberty and freedom of choice in keeping with Creator-endowed natural rights. Out of these, free enterprise flourished naturally. Even though the words "free enterprise' are not in the Constitution, the concept was uppermost in the minds of the Founders, typified by the remarks of Jefferson and Madison as quoted above. Already, in 1787, Americans were enjoying the rewards of individual enterprise and free markets. Their dedication was to securing that freedom for posterity.

The learned men drafting America's Constitution understood history - mankind's struggle against poverty and government oppression. And they had studied the ideas of the great thinkers and philosophers. They were familiar with the near starvation of the early Jamestown settlers under a communal production and distribution system and Governor Bradford's diary account of how all benefited after agreement that each family could do as it wished with the fruits of its own labors. Later, in 1776, Adam Smith's INQUIRY INTO THE NATURE AND CAUSES OF THE WEALTH OF NATIONS and Say's POLITICAL ECONOMY had come at just the right time and were perfectly compatible with the Founders' own passion for individual liberty. Jefferson said these were the best books to be had for forming governments based on principles of freedom. They saw a free market economy as the natural result of their ideal of liberty. They feared concentrations of power and the coercion that planners can use in planning other peoples lives; and they valued freedom of choice and acceptance of responsibility of the consequences of such choice as being the very essence of liberty. They envisioned a large and prosperous republic of free people, unhampered by government interference.

The Founders believed the American people, possessors of deeply rooted character and values, could prosper if left free to:

  • acquire and own property
  • have access to free markets
  • produce what they wanted
  • work for whom and at what they wanted
  • travel and live where they would choose
  • acquire goods and services which they desired

Such a free market economy was, to them, the natural result of liberty, carried out in the economic dimension of life. Their philosophy tend­ed to enlarge individual freedom - not to restrict or diminish the individual's right to make choices and to succeed or fail based on those choices. The economic role of their Constitutional government was simply to secure rights and encourage commerce. Through the Constitution, they granted their government some very limited powers to:

Adam Smith called it "the system of natural liberty." James Madison referred to it as "the benign influence of a responsible government." Others have called it the free enterprise system. By whatever name it is called, the economic system envisioned by the Founders and encouraged by the Constitution allowed individual enterprise to flourish and triggered the greatest explosion of economic progress in all of history. Americans became the first people truly to realize the economic dimension of liberty.


Footnote: Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

57 posted on 12/20/2011 11:41:26 AM PST by loveliberty2
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For all who wish to read about the kind of person who needs to run against Obama in 2012, read this FR today.

To counter and defeat the tyrannical ideas of socialism/communism which have invaded the halls of government in America today, one must be able to wield the weapon of truth. Only truth is an adequate antidote to the lies of socialism.

Watering it down by being unwilling to name the ideas for what they are simply will not convince generations of Americans who have not been taught the ideas of liberty.

58 posted on 12/20/2011 11:52:57 AM PST by loveliberty2
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