Posted on 12/20/2011 9:38:28 AM PST by TSgt
FREDERICKSBURG, Ohio -- An Ohio sheriff says a man cleaning his muzzle-loading rifle accidentally shot and killed a 15-year-old Amish girl driving a horse-drawn buggy more than a mile away.
Holmes County Sheriff Timothy Zimmerly said Tuesday that the accident occurred Thursday night when a man fired his loaded rifle to clean it. He says the victim, Rachel Yoder of Fredericksburg, was nearly 1.5 miles away when she was shot in the head.
No charges have been filed.
Yoder was shot while traveling to her home in adjacent Wayne County, between Columbus and Akron. She was riding alone after attending a Christmas party for employees, most under 18 years old, who work at an Amish produce farm.
When I was in the service, we trained to shoot silhouettes at 800 yards with iron sights. At that range the target was significantly smaller than the front sight.
What are you guys aiming at a mile away?
LoL!
How did they figure this out?
I shoot long range with iron sights, 168 grain hollow point boat tail, leaves the muzzle at 2600 ft per second, hits paper at approximately 13oo ft per second, but the top of the curve is 228 inches, not 200 ft. Closer to 19 feet and some inches. 53 clicks of half minute each.
At 200 ft, that is one slow moving bullet.
It was the afternoon of the third day of the battle when Dixon spotted a group of Comanche on horseback gathering together. He fired twice and missed, but his third shot found it’s mark. There are a number of BP shooting clubs in the US and Europe who hold annual contests to try and reenact his shot.
A muzzle loader doesn't have a rifled barrel, not as simple to fingerprint as you think,and I'm being nice, not to mention the muzzle pressure needed to send a round 1.5 miles is absurd. No mention of caliber. All nonsense, muzzle loaders in Illinois never required any sort of FOID bs, now they do.
>> My .50 cal round ball rifle won’t approach 1,500 feet, let along 5,280.
If displacement is a mile, the distance the shot traveled is significantly further.
It was a muzzle loading rifle.
I shoot 45-70, I have used Hornady red tipped cartridges, they increase the fps, by about 250fps, according to the manufacturer, most rounds for lever action are flatnose, still 1300fps but no way accurate. I have a lever action Marlin and there is no way in hell that 45-70 is a long range cartridge.
So what am I missing here? It was a muzzle-loader, smooth bore, no rifling grooves on the projectile, so how do they identify it. Enlighten us all.
45-70 not a long range cartridge? How about 3,200 yds with enough retained velocity to still be lethal.
The US Army found this during The Sandy Hook Tests of 1879.
Large slugs (500 gr in this case) retain velocity quite well once below sonic speed.
These tests were with black powder and lead slugs. The 45-70 of that time was nothing more than a converted muzzle loader, either type firearm with the same load would have similar performance.
link to test info: http://www.researchpress.co.uk/longrange/sandyhook.htm
Sorry, no sell with me, especially balls, I use 325 grain Hornady and I can tell you I don’t buy bs.
A fifteen year old would not have been allowed to date yet, so no, no jilted suitor. The Amish don’t work that way.
Dating starts at sixteen, by attending the “singings” on Sunday nights. The girls ride to the gathering with their brothers and ride home with the young man who asks, if she wants to, that is.
Not to mention the Springfield trapdoor used in the Indian wars, by Custer and the boy’s
You are aware that the 45 ACP has a maximum range of over 2,000 yds, right? And it is capable of harassing fire at 1,000 yds.
If you want range from your 45-70, slow the MV down and up the slug weight. 450 to 500 grain bullet will take down any animal that walks the earth, unlike your Hornady load.
He is also Amish and has probably already been forgiven. He turned himself in.
Or anywhere in Ohio!
I have a Colt .45 series 80, why don't you go talk to yourself, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Let's see, 2,000 yards = 6,000feet from a slow knock down round, and a hand gun no less LOL.
Can you imagine the conversation at the guy’s work the next day? “So, Bill, did you get anything yesterday?” “Yep. A V6 Toyota Highlander.”
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