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Herman Cain: A Final Word (I just did not like the way the whole "Cain thing" went down)
American Thinker ^ | 12/26/2011 | Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 12/26/2011 6:36:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
All the bandwagon jumpers hopped aboard the Cain train while refusing to acknowledge he was an unknown.

Cain had not been through the same scrutiny as had the others. It wasn't until he started doing well that people were interested in looking into his background. I guess he thought he could just talk his way into the presidency. But actions and behavior matter. Cain gave his opponents the ammunition to use against him, why wouldn't they use it?

The lesson to be learned is not about Cain himself, but the bandwagon jumpers who have a bad habit of projecting perfection onto their latest, greatest “leader”, and then blame everyone else when it turns out they backed just another flawed politician.

41 posted on 12/26/2011 8:10:23 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: SeekAndFind

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42 posted on 12/26/2011 8:12:12 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: moose-matson

Yeah well.

Sometimes I just accept and allow myself to be played.

If she gets back in this race, I’ll support her. Absolutely.


43 posted on 12/26/2011 8:12:25 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind
Since Cain has dropped out of the race, all of his accusers have vanished. Imagine that.

Funny how that worked, isn't it.

44 posted on 12/26/2011 8:19:19 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: SeekAndFind

Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media “vet” the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.

This “election” will be a non-election...featuring the state approved “candidates”-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.


45 posted on 12/26/2011 8:20:14 AM PST by mo
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If she gets back in the race it will only be because she and Burnett were unsuccessfull in parking the new reality tv show.

She can't do both and we do know that she is currently expending her time and energies on the show...not on running.

You listen to her words and see a reluctant warrior.

I watch her actions and see a profit-driven opportunist. I don't begrudge her or anybody who chases the dollar, not at all. But, I refuse to ignore her constant actions in deference to her occasional words.

I do genuinely see her opportunistic chasing of financial reward as part of her political dance of the seven veils. Her appeals to her loyal base are pecuniary and, given her refusal to engage a realistic candidacy, manipulative for her financial gain.

46 posted on 12/26/2011 8:24:41 AM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: sodpoodle
He married some of them. Their are a some others that have come forward with far more veracity than Cain's accusers and with Newt's acknowleged record I think that there is little doubt there is some truth to at least some of these additional allegations.

I agree that Cain handled it badly and should have gotten in front of things far better and far quicker than he did.

I also freely admit that I have no use for Newt. Mostly because if you look with an unbias eye at Newt's whole record Newt has always done whats best for Newt and if it helped the country and/or the conseverative movement along the way so much the better, but those things have never been his top goal. He has done this his whole political life and personal life and I see nothing in his present actions that shows he has changed.

Now comes those who will tell me that I am voting for Obama by not backing Newt. Don't bother I care not to argue with people happy to play a game that is clearly rigged. Rigged I say because how else can you explain in a year with such a wounded and flawed opponent as Obama is we are left with the choices we have running against him?

47 posted on 12/26/2011 8:31:55 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: eastforker

Oh, look, another stupid, ****in’ Freeper.

Enjoy Obama.


48 posted on 12/26/2011 8:40:45 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: sodpoodle

Yeah, it is, and it’s disgusting.

Furthermore, I never saw any of Herman’s laundry, not even a single scrap.

Lol @ conservative hypocrites.

Good luck, you’re going to need it.


49 posted on 12/26/2011 8:45:23 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cain should have just stayed in. Obama is a Communist, who believes the Constitution is fundamentally flawed, that the Supreme Court should redistribute wealth. He was a cokehead, and probably had a homosexual affair. Anything Cain might have done pales in comparison to this enemy of America. This was no time to get wobbly, and Cain did.


50 posted on 12/26/2011 8:48:13 AM PST by montag813 (http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Since Cain has dropped out of the race, all of his accusers have vanished. Imagine that."

Which proves:

a) the allegations were unfounded (d'uh!)
b) Cain should have stayed in and fought each one of them from the get-go
c) Cain did not have what it takes to be President by quitting, as if media attacks/smears would subside were he to become the nominee or POTUS

Despite all the positives, Cain was not at all ready for prime time if this kind of crap can scare him out of the race.

51 posted on 12/26/2011 8:56:58 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo
Good post. With a heavy heart I must admit it is a fair and accurate summation.
52 posted on 12/26/2011 9:01:46 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: so_real

“If the GOP forces Romney upon us (and no Independent candidate is worthy), there’s a good chance Cain will be my write-in.”

In another life and time, I’ve written about this before, but you CAN’T “write in” the name of a presidential candidate on the ballot and expect to have it taken seriously.

Why not?, you’re thinking.

Being a Freeper, you’re something of a “Constitutionalist”, are you not? If that’s case, who in reality are you casting a ballot for in the presidential election in your state (same rules apply in all fifty states)?

You ARE NOT casting you’re vote for the candidate himself (or herself). Rather, you are voting for a “slate of electors” for that candidate.

This is because the statewide election IS NOT a popular vote contest for a [single person] candidate. If it were, it would be exactly what the left wants (i.e., the abolishment of the electoral college).

Because of the Electoral College, it’s the responsibility for each candidate to submit a slate of electors who are pledged to represent him/her when the Electoral College convenes after the election. So…. when you vote “for a presidential candidate”, you are in truth voting for a group of electors who will later vote for that candidate in the EC.

The only way a “write in vote” for Herman Cain would be a “valid” vote (as disinguished from a throw-away or joke vote) would be if you actually wrote in the names of each and every “elector” for Mr. Cain. And, because there are none, there would be no one to write in.

That’s the way it works, like it or not. You can write in Mickey Mouse, and it would be as “valid” and meaningful a vote as would be a write-in for Mr. Cain, or for Sarah Palin, for that matter. Which is to say, it would be no vote at all.

Which is why I chuckle every time I see a Freeper exclaim that in protest he is going to write in the candidate of his choice instead. It’s meaningless, and worse, it’s totally a waste of time, because the vote has no meaning and CAN’T BE COUNTED.

That’s the way it is, and if we want to keep our Constitution, that’s the way it should stay.


53 posted on 12/26/2011 9:09:06 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Smokin' Joe
Excellent observation. The pattern is there is a new GOP front runner until the smear machine fires up then they all disappear...except Romney.

IMO Cain was a breath of fresh air, a perfect outsider with successful business credentials and very good communications skills.

Those who say he quit therefore must be guilty suffer from severe cranial-anal syndrome in not seeing this pattern.

The latest example is ron paul. He never should have even been in serious contention but as the other candidates ran out it is now his turn. Now the smear machine is revealing his past. Jeez in his case all you have to do is see his present to realize he is not all there.

54 posted on 12/26/2011 9:14:27 AM PST by pfflier
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To: eastforker

In the big POTUS game, a serious contender does not throw in the towel without serious cause. Apparently the last “lady” was nuclear grade.

Maybe Herman thought he’d get one of them affirmative action passes like nobama.


55 posted on 12/26/2011 9:15:53 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: Kartographer

I was excited about Cain and had high hopes for him. A lot of disappointment all around.


56 posted on 12/26/2011 9:16:11 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Road Glide

So true yet sometimes it’s like talking to a brick wall. A write in candidate would be the same as not voting at all. The Palinist and the Caininites are in love with them and feel that a vote for anyone else is an act of disloyalty or some crap. Those are the ones that will help Obama get reelected.


57 posted on 12/26/2011 9:16:35 AM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: X-spurt

That or the fact there was a number 8 or 9 or more out there that hadn’t come to light yet. If Ginger was absolutely the last one out there he might have survived it, but, after seven accusations, it’s kind of hard to try and keep explaining it away.


58 posted on 12/26/2011 9:20:45 AM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: Kartographer

****with such a wounded and flawed opponent as Obama is we are left with the choices we have running against him****

Where are your heroes? Those brave men & women - called to duty - with courage to face the slings and arrows - to stand up while others sit around and rage at the elements - where are they?

They ARE in the arena - taking the blows - fully knowing that they will be savaged in the media - to fall and stand again - against all odds - pushing forward - not looking back to say ‘what might have been’.


59 posted on 12/26/2011 9:25:36 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: yldstrk

Herman Cain was undone by his own actions. His quitting and fading into the woodwork proved the allegations sufficiently for me and all but the most ardent (and blinded) supporters.


60 posted on 12/26/2011 9:41:13 AM PST by Wallop the Cat
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