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Gingrich is right - Congress can contest constitutional interpretation with the judiciary
washingtontimes.com ^ | 12/27/2011 | Steven W. Fitschen

Posted on 12/27/2011 4:43:41 PM PST by TBBT

If you’re a political junkie, you’ve got to love a presidential candidate who lights the fire Newt Gingrich has lit. Or at least you have to love the fire. Impeach judges? Subpoena them? Arrest them?

Zany, zany, zany Newt. Or is that correct, correct, correct Newt?

The case can be made that judges can be impeached for rendering unconstitutional opinions. But it probably can’t be made persuasively in an op-ed piece. I won’t try. But I’ll take on the other two.

They can be subpoenaed, and, because they can be subpoenaed, they can be arrested if they refuse to comply. Yes, I know that former Attorney General Michael Mukasey said, “The only basis by which Congress can subpoena people is to consider legislation.” And, yes, I know that Andrew McCarthy, in a National Review Online article headlined “There Is No Power and No Reason to Subpoena Federal Judges,” claimed this action would violate “separation-of-powers principles.”

Let me try to take this out of the realm of opinion, into the realm of fact.

First, the only fair reading of Mr. Gingrich’s comments is that he advocates subpoenaing judges as part of an impeachment investigation. If so, this surely can be done.

As background, Hind’s Precedents - the historical go-to guide, cited 20 times by the Congressional Research Service in “Impeachment: An Overview of Constitutional Provisions, Procedure, and Practice,” its publication prepared just last year in the midst of the investigation of Judge G. Thomas Porteous - cites many examples of Congress issuing subpoenas, summonses and, yes, arrest warrants after someone has been impeached, but before the trial begins.

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To: Wonder Warthog
After posting the link, I read it again myself.

I cannot recall, since I cast my first Presidential vote in 1972 for Richard Nixon, any candidate proffering a plan to stand up and limit the tyranny of the blackrobes.

Not Ronaldus Magnus, no one else.

Newt engineered and pulled off the impossible in 1994. He ended 40+ years of rat-House. If for no other reason, he has plenty of enemies, but few who will take him on in a one on one debate.

Our country is at the edge of the abyss. Is Newt the man to lead us back from pending dissolution of the Union?

21 posted on 12/27/2011 5:56:43 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: NoPrisoners

Mega dittoes


22 posted on 12/27/2011 6:11:18 PM PST by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: NoPrisoners

Mega dittoes


23 posted on 12/27/2011 6:11:21 PM PST by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: NoPrisoners

Mega dittoes


24 posted on 12/27/2011 6:11:30 PM PST by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: TBBT

It has been pounded in most simple minded Americans that the Judiciary is equal branch and has the power to override anything the Senate, House, and President passes as law. The Court can offer an opinion but cannot change of make law. Judges are not the last rule. If we lose Newt we have lost the last chance for a Constitutional America.


25 posted on 12/27/2011 6:13:34 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Principled

“It is intended that the judiciary be vulnerable to the legislature so that the judiciary could not make decisions that would reduce the powers of the other branches - most notably legislative. They wanted to be sure the judiciary did not usurp without bound - hence this impeachment provision.”

The problem is that our gutless Congress has gone to sleep with respect to this issue! I just have to wonder how long the voters are going to continue to rate the Congress at 11% but fail to turn their particular rep out of office. The whole problem doesn’t lie with the elected officials per se, it’s the morons who vote allowing this mess to continue. I fear we are getting perilously close to the tipping point where the “takers” will be able ( at least for a couple more years) to continue to vote “free stuff” for themselves.


26 posted on 12/27/2011 6:19:35 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: ElectronVolt
One key point many people miss is that Article III doesn't even say that the Court has any authority to declare a law unconstitutional. The Constitution says the Court can rule on cases involving federal law, but what if a law is in conflict with the Constitution? Whether the Court can rule a law unconstitutional or whether it can simply ignore the law and let the Congress decide the constitutionality isn't clear.

If you read Marbury v. Madison closely, you'll see that Marshall didn't explicitly claim jurisdiction for voiding unConstitutional laws. The decision merely says that a law contrary to the Constition is void. In other words, the Supreme Court is set up as a body that merely articulates a fact about an unConstitutional law.

Needless to say, this interpretation is way, way "out of the mainstream." Were it legitimized, the peons would get the idea that they don't have to obey unConstitutional laws period...

27 posted on 12/27/2011 6:22:49 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: TBBT

IF Newt makes it to the Whitehouse, and that’s a BIG if, wouldn’t he have to have BOTH House and Senate under Republican rule. AND, even if that happened, WHEN have all Republican agreed on ANYTHING? Don’t get me wrong, I believe Newt is correct but I am also a realist.


28 posted on 12/27/2011 6:27:15 PM PST by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: TBBT

Notice the only people pulling their hair out about what Newt said are liars/lawyers.I wanna hear more!


29 posted on 12/27/2011 6:27:29 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: fantom

All the attorney bunch on Fox News were going off the deep end because of what Newt said. It was hilarious watching them melt-down.


30 posted on 12/27/2011 6:37:30 PM PST by Jukeman (No Romney, No Bush, No Trump. No, No, No. Never. Final Word!)
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To: TBBT

Since the Bill of Rights are the property of the American people, we should also be able to contest any constipated interpretation that the bozos on the bench come up with.


31 posted on 12/27/2011 6:46:37 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer
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To: TBBT

Without distinguishing between 14th Amendment constitutional administrative law and pre-14th natural rights common constitutional law, none of this means anything.

In law, the determination of jurisdiction is paramount. THERE IS NO WAY TO IMPEACH an administrative law judge who followed established policy, no matter how vaguely, because administrative jurisdiction already eliminates the founding principles of natural rights before it even gets started! Administrative law IS rule by fiat, so you can’t impeach FOR ruling by fiat if administrative jurisdiction is established!

Newt is slick, allright. And the judges aren’t worried at all.


32 posted on 12/27/2011 10:21:27 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: TBBT

The rest of the article is even better!


33 posted on 12/27/2011 10:34:56 PM PST by moehoward
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To: ElectronVolt

As noted several times by the delegates to the Convention, the power to strike unconstitutional law is contained within the judicial power itself.


34 posted on 12/28/2011 2:04:55 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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