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Nigerian churches call Christmas bombings 'declaration of war'
CNN ^ | Wed December 28, 2011 | Soni Irabor

Posted on 12/28/2011 7:39:20 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: wideawake
The knowledge base needed to resist still exists among Christian Nigerians.

So are you saying they should try again? Would things be any different this time?

21 posted on 12/28/2011 8:44:59 PM PST by PGR88 (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks MinorityRepublican.


22 posted on 12/28/2011 8:48:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: wideawake

“The Boko Haram movement carefully coordinated these attacks to target Catholic, Anglican and Pentecostal congregations - making sure that each major Christian group was struck.”

Good; then unlike Biafra, ALL of the Christians can unite against the Muslims. At that point a possible division of the country should be considered; that is what happened in Kosovo (to let Muslims do their own thing) and in East Timor (to let Christians do their own thing).


23 posted on 12/28/2011 8:49:10 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: PGR88
Things would likely be different for two reasons:

(1) they would likely not be fighting to establish a separate country, but to eliminate a terrorist group and

(2) this situation is not clouded by ethnic rivalry (non-Catholic Christians were divided on the question of civil war in 1967 because it best served the Igbo ethnic group), but is clearly a question of a religious ideology targeting all non-Muslims regardless of tribal affiliation.

If the goal is to form a Christian militia to crush Boko Haram rather than to secede from Nigeria, I like their chances.

24 posted on 12/28/2011 8:53:01 PM PST by wideawake
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To: RitaOK
What an eager little anti-semetic you reveal yourself to be. Are you a Muzzzzzlimmmmm radical yourself, a sympathizer, smuggling smack against the Jews in the present day? Well?

Sigh, I'll assume you haven't been FReeping very long. Here, and on other conservative sites "Joooz" is a mockery of anti-semites, who are implied to be semi-literate. It also has acquired affectionate overtones as well. Furthermore, if I was an ignorant jew-hater how would I even know about the Palmach and the Haganah?

25 posted on 12/28/2011 8:53:10 PM PST by sinanju
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To: sinanju

Who’s in the majority in Nigeria?


26 posted on 12/28/2011 8:56:21 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: wideawake

Exactly, this thing cuts across tribal lines though I’d imagine certain tribes are much more one that the other. But either way, this has nothing to do with secession.

Furthermore, I’d imagine the government would be happy to sit back and let armed Christian militias do their work for them as the Muslims are a threat to them as well.


27 posted on 12/28/2011 8:56:29 PM PST by sinanju
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To: MinorityRepublican

What was Ron Paul’s response?


28 posted on 12/28/2011 8:58:28 PM PST by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: sinanju

” ...and on other conservative sites “Joooz” is a mockery of anti-semites,....” <<<

RAIIIIIIIGGGht. Balderdash.


29 posted on 12/28/2011 9:00:47 PM PST by RitaOK (wRasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I read it was roughly fifty-fifty, with the Hausa and Fulani ethnic groups in the Northern two-thirds of the country being Muzzie.


30 posted on 12/28/2011 9:00:53 PM PST by sinanju
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To: kearnyirish2
The Muslims of Kosovo wanted to secede, as did the Christians of East Timor. This made sense, because they were small minorities who had no chance of self-determination in the context of the larger nation.

The Muslims of Nigeria do not want to secede because they are half the population - and their lands are undeveloped, with poor soil and no resources, while the Christian lands are more developed and have rich farmland and abundant oil.

They want the whole thing.

31 posted on 12/28/2011 9:01:26 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I wasn’t talking about giving the Muslims the option; I was referring to the Christians (Kosovo’s Christians weren’t consulted, and neither were Indonesia’s Muslims for East Timor).


32 posted on 12/28/2011 9:03:46 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: sinanju
The problem is that the Nigerian government's own armed forces are compromised.

The top leadership is mostly Anglican Yoruba, but the middle cadre of officers is mostly a mixture of Christian Yoruba and Muslim Hausa, the center of the Nigerian military is in Kaduna - in the Muslim north - and many of the young officers in the army have trained in Pakistan.

This could split the Nigerian military in two.

33 posted on 12/28/2011 9:11:28 PM PST by wideawake
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To: sinanju

Note to Israel. Form ties with Christians in Nigeria.


34 posted on 12/28/2011 9:13:13 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: wideawake

“Haram” is Arabic for “unclean” or “sinful” or “abomination.”

Haram describes about every muzzie out there.


35 posted on 12/28/2011 9:15:42 PM PST by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: doug from upland

Probably thinks it’s Israel’s fault for oppressing “Palestinian” jihadists, or the US’s for buying oil from Arabs.


36 posted on 12/28/2011 9:22:22 PM PST by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Eleutheria5; All
Thank you to several people for educating me on the current composition of the Nigerian military. I went to college with several students from Jos, but that was decades ago. My information about current on-the-ground realities is limited to what I read in American secular media and to some extent church-related media covering the Nigerian objections to American and Canadian pro-gay garbage in the Episcopal Church.

34 posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:13:13 PM by Eleutheria5: “Note to Israel. Form ties with Christians in Nigeria.”

It could get interesting if Israel discovered that having friends in South Sudan and southern Nigeria became a very good way 1) to solve its oil problems and 2) to develop friendly relations with growing African churches which may easily be persuaded to develop a “Christian Zionist” attitude comparable to American evangelicals.

I think I remember hearing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying that if Israel lost the support of America, they would be truly alone in the world. Given current conditions in America, if I were an Israeli prime minister I'd be working very hard to seek out conservative Christian supporters in Latin America, Africa, and Asia.

Getting some good training from the Israelis on military tactics and ideological warfare against Islamofascism sure wouldn't hurt the Nigerian Christians, either.

37 posted on 12/28/2011 9:42:12 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

Makes absolute sense. Israel has been holding itself back while trying to sway world opinion. It has not worked and they are in retreat. It is time to take the gloves off and widen the conflict. If Israel arms and trains the Christians of Africa wherever they are then the muslim SOBs will have their hands too full to trouble Israel and will loose the revenue from the oil rich Christian lands.


38 posted on 12/28/2011 9:57:57 PM PST by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams? Getting madder every day)
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To: sickoflibs; NFHale; hiredhand
got crusades ???

itll have to start 'over there' before the muzzies will lose their PC burqa over here...

39 posted on 12/28/2011 10:21:25 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: darrellmaurina

A few Uzis might not be a bad thing, either.


40 posted on 12/28/2011 10:36:13 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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