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To: SeekAndFind
I was a Libertarian for decades, before reality caused me to stop supporting the party. The problem with Liberterianism is that some of its basic assumptions are at odds with reality. One of the assumptions is that “everyone is the same all over the world”, when the reality is that no, everyone is different all over the world. That assumption is what drives Ron Paul to say that the Iranians want the bomb because in their situation, we would too. Of course, in a very general way, he is correct, but he fails to see that the Iranians have a completely different world view and assumptions from Americans, and many of the leadership's assumptions include that the world would be a better place if America did not exist, no matter what our foreign policy was.

It is the same problem with open borders. Open your borders and let enough people in who have not assimilated into American society, and America will cease to exist as a free society.

Libertarians have this vision that all people all over the world are really libertarians under the skin. It is simply not true.

8 posted on 12/30/2011 9:04:45 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Agreed.

“Free traders” are the same way.

They think everyone wants to be like us, so we should not have to look out for ourselves, just be “fair”.

Both views are profoundly dopey.


9 posted on 12/30/2011 9:07:44 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: marktwain

Libertarianism is a brand of utopianism and not in accordance with Biblical truths. We are not perfect and as such will never act in ways of perfection. When given the opportunity, usually, one human being will act in a way which will benefit himself the most. And sometimes, it will be in a way which is harmful to another which is why libertarianism is not workable just the same as communism is not workable.


20 posted on 12/30/2011 9:20:34 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: marktwain
One of the assumptions is that “everyone is the same all over the world”, when the reality is that no, everyone is different all over the world.

Is that not why we [BIG GOVERNMENT] currently take from our resources and waltz into foreign lands, trying to make them just like us? "Everyone wants freedom." No. Some people want the freedom to be slaves. Others don't. Which of those options fits the USA in principle?

51 posted on 12/30/2011 10:37:49 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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