Palestinian Authority Ambassador invents history-Palestine mentioned250 times in Bible

Jihad Watch ^ | 1-2-12

[SJackson]

Palestinian Authority Ambassador invents history, claims that "Palestine and its people are mentioned more than 250 times" in Bible

This is naked historical revisionism. The "Palestinians" of today have no ethnic or national connection whatsoever with the Philistines of the Bible. From the indispensable "Myths and Facts" site:

Palestinian Arabs cast themselves as a native people in “Palestine” – like the Aborigines in Australia or Native Americans in America. They portray the Jews as European imperialists and colonizers. This is simply untrue. Until the Jews began returning to the Land of Israel in increasing numbers from the late 19th century to the turn of the 20th, the area called Palestine was a God-forsaken backwash that belonged to the Ottoman Empire, based in Turkey.

The land’s fragile ecology had been laid waste in the wake of the Arabs’ 7th-century conquest. In 1799, the population was at it lowest and estimated to be no more than 250,000 to 300,000 inhabitants in all the land.

At the turn of the 20th century, the Arab population west of the Jordan River (today, Israel and the West Bank) was about half a million inhabitants and east of the Jordan River perhaps 200,000....

Family names of many Palestinians attest to their non-Palestinian origins. Just as Jews bear names like Berliner, Warsaw and Toledano, modern phone books in the Territories are filled with families named Elmisri (Egyptian), Chalabi (Syrian), Mugrabi (North Africa). Even George Habash – the arch-terrorist and head of Black September – bears a name with origins in Abyssinia or Ethiopia, Habash in both Arabic and Hebrew.

Here is the obverse of this endeavor: "PA ambassador to India: 'Palestine and its people are mentioned more than 250 times' in the Bible," from Al-Hayat Al-Jadida via Palestinian Media Watch, December 19, 2011 (thanks to David):

...The ambassador spoke about the statements by the candidate in the American Republican Party primaries, Newt Gingrich, against our people, in describing this people as 'invented'. He [Sadeq] said that this ignoring of the existence of the Palestinian people and its rights reflects logic which mocks intelligence, culture, and the Bible itself, in which Palestine and its people are mentioned more than 250 times."

[SJackson]

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That would be the Chairman Arafat version.

[Tzfat]

The ambassador is correct. "Philistines" are mention over 200 times in the Bible. Since the arabic pronunciation for "Palestinian" is "Filistini" then he can make that claim. Add to that fact that the Philistines were a scourge on the Land of Israel, and the point is perfect.

The problem is, of course, today's ethnic Arab is about as far away from the genetic Philistine as Laplanders are from Watusi. The Philistines were Phoenecian, a Greek family. They were from Japheth, not Shem. Although the ambassador's ethnic heritage has some notables in it, it is not the Philistines. Instead, he should claim the other scourges such as Edom, Amelek, et al.

[babble-on]

when the Bible mentions Philistines, it refers to the tribes living in the Gaza region, whose name morphed through the Greek language came to be Palestine. Similarly, the tribes living in the “West Bank” area of Samaria are the ones who were called Samaritans.

[richardtavor]

about as legitimate as quanza..

[Tzfat]

I thought it was qwansa? Or maybe kuanza? Like “Khaddaffy,” how many ways can you spell stupid?

[wita]

Back in the day, one would need to know just how many different tribes and or peoples inhabited the promised land when Moses and the Children of Israel entered, and just who and how many made the transition from yesteryear to today. Unlike the children of Israel where one twelfth, the tribe of Judah and perhaps Joseph made the transition, one can only guess, who of the inhabitants survived 4,000 years intact till today. Palestinians would not be the answer.

[Eleutheria5]

I’m an Iroquois because I lived in upstate New York once, and that used to be the territory of the Iroquois.

[SJackson]

From the occupiers.

[US Navy Vet]

Second Roman-Jewish War See also: Bar Kokhba revolt In 130, Hadrian visited the ruins of Jerusalem, in Judaea, left after the First Roman-Jewish War of 66–73. He rebuilt the city, renaming it Aelia Capitolina after himself and Jupiter Capitolinus, the chief Roman deity. Hadrian placed the city's main Forum at the junction of the main Cardo and Decumanus Maximus, now the location for the (smaller) Muristan. Hadrian built a large temple to the goddess Venus on top of what early Christians venerated as the tomb of Christ in order to suppress Christian worship there; later this site was rebuilt as the Church of the Holy Sepulchre after the Christian Empress Helena ordered the temple of Venus to be demolished.[54] A new temple dedicated to the worship of Jupiter was built on the ruins of the old Jewish Second Temple, which had been destroyed in 70.[55] In addition, Hadrian abolished circumcision, which was considered by Romans and Greeks as a form of bodily mutilation and hence barbaric.[56] These anti-Jewish policies of Hadrian triggered in Judaea a massive Jewish uprising, led by Simon bar Kokhba and Akiba ben Joseph.[citation needed] Following the outbreak of the revolt, Hadrian called his general Sextus Julius Severus from Britain, and troops were brought from as far as the Danube. Roman losses were very heavy, and it is believed that an entire legion, the XXII Deiotariana was destroyed.[57] Indeed, Roman losses were so heavy that Hadrian's report to the Roman Senate omitted the customary salutation "I and the legions are well".[58] However, Hadrian's army eventually put down the rebellion in 135, after three years of fighting. According to Cassius Dio, during the war 580,000 Jews were killed, 50 fortified towns and 985 villages razed. The final battle took place in Beitar, a fortified city 10 km. southwest of Jerusalem. The city only fell after a lengthy siege, and Hadrian only allowed the Jews to bury their dead after a period of six days. According to the Babylonian Talmud,[59] after the war Hadrian continued the persecution of Jews. He attempted to root out Judaism, which he saw as the cause of continuous rebellions, prohibited the Torah law, the Hebrew calendar and executed Judaic scholars (see Ten Martyrs). The sacred scroll was ceremonially burned on the Temple Mount. In an attempt to erase the memory of Judaea, he renamed the province Syria Palaestina (after the Philistines), and Jews were forbidden from entering its rededicated capital. When Jewish sources mention Hadrian it is always with the epitaph "may his bones be crushed" (שחיק עצמות or שחיק טמיא, the Aramaic equivalent[60]), an expression never used even with respect to Vespasian or Titus who destroyed the Second Temple. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian

[US Navy Vet]

There WERE paragraphs when I posted this! :-|!

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

The rebuttal to this is simple. Mention the dozens of times Mohammed spoke of his admiration and respect of Israel and the Jews in the Koran, his regarding them as “the chosen people”, and the Muslims as “gentiles” outside of the Jews sacred covenant with God.

[Jack Hydrazine]

I have to wonder how long Israel will put up with this scourge before they decide to push them all into Egypt and let them deal with it?

[dps.inspect]

Those bereft of a willingness to acknowledge or perceive reality are left with just one thing; deception. First, they are self deceived (constructing a make-believe reality from their own imagination). Second, they are deceived by an malevolent force, one that tirelessly works to deceive the masses (Satan). Unfortunately, you cannot rationalize with the deceived.

[Graybeard58]

Similar to, if our native American Indians claimed a right to India.

[PapaBear3625]

I have to wonder how long Israel will put up with this scourge before they decide to push them all into Egypt and let them deal with it?

When they took Jerusalem in 1967, they should have removed the mosque from the Temple Mount, and expelled the Muslims from Jerusalem (paying a more-than-fair price for the property). The Muslims would have screamed, but they scream anyway.

The return of the Sinai should have been conditional upon Egypt also accepting Gaza as Egyptian territory, with the residents of Gaza being free to move anywhere in Egypt.

[Jack Hydrazine]

They should have gotten rid of the al-Aqsa mosque AND the Dome Of The Crock (it’s not a mosque).

[trebb]

Since they claim that Muslims are the rightful inheritors of Israel, perhaps they should read/accept what the Bible really says about their lineage:

The angel of the LORD also said to her: “You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son. You shall name him Ishmael,[a] for the LORD has heard of your misery. 12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward[b] all his brothers.”

God also said that because Ishmael was Abraham's son, He would also make a Nation from his lineage. IOW, when those in the Old Testament doubted God and tried to second guess His statements/orders, there were far-reaching consequences and the Muslims are Ishmael's descendants.

[onedoug]

Ignorant arabs.

[Eleutheria5]

In 1978, there were Jewish residents in Ghaza, and as often is the case, making their patch of earth, Gush Khatif, blossom and thrive. In 2005, Sharon had the entire “settlement” forcibly evicted, as Begin did in 1978 with the residents of Yamit. So far, the so-called Right in Israel has uniformly screwed us over. Ironically, Shimon Perez sanctioned the construction of Kiryat Arba.