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Pictured: The teenager shot dead after taking pellet gun to school... posing with 'lethal weapon'
Daily Mail ^ | 01/05/12 | Staff

Posted on 01/05/2012 4:44:11 AM PST by BunnySlippers

This is the teenager shot dead by police for brandishing a pellet gun in the hallway of his school - posing with a friend holding the 'weapon'.

Jaime Gonzalez, 15, was gunned down because he would not lower the gun which officers believed was a loaded pistol.

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He said he heard police run down the hallway and yell 'put the gun down,' before several shots were fired.

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To: Bushbacker1

absolutely correct.

Lewis and Clark carried .45 or .50 caliber air guns that used a foot pump to charge with air. these were capible of taking out deer or people.....

there are companies that have similar ones today for medium to big game hunting....


101 posted on 01/06/2012 8:00:15 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: diverteach

actually 15 in 8th grade today can mean a fall birthday held back from 1st grade by the mom

when I was in school in the 60s, kindergarten was not mandatory and neither was school breakfast etc

and you could start 1st grade if you turned 6 by the end of that year...so many like me started at 5 in the fall ...another thing btw...we started day after labor day...not mid august
now you have to be 6 by mid summer to start first or rather since kindergarten is now mandatory you have to be 5 by mid summer to start it and get the school thing rolling

so now you have plenty of fall birthday kids turning 18 fall of senior year

couple that with the predominate trend of moms holding back their little darlings for one year in the beginning for fear they will be too intimidated by school after being on her skirt tail for 6 years

or dad holding johnny back so he will be bigger for sports

hence many seniors...particularly boys...who now turn 19 in fall of the senior year...I hate it...now you have near men in steady social romantic contact with 14-15-16 year old girls so easy....it’s a recipe for problems

crazy...I know...I hate it

this now dead kid may have actually failed ...which I doubt...they almost never fail anymore or he had a detention holdback...more likely than scholastic

my point is though that a 15 year old 8th grader is far more common that a generation or two before

I was 17 when I graduated...like many here I bet

This boy would have been 19...had he graduated or lived.


102 posted on 01/06/2012 8:14:49 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt...now Santorum?......Capt Trips could not say it better)
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To: elvis-lives
There was a thread around Christmas time of children holding semi-automatic weapons having their pictures taken with Santa. The children in that news story were all white children. I think the “gun thing” crosses ethnic boundaries

everything except the ability to play basketball crosses ethnic boundaries

there is nothing relative whatsoever as to how white kids commit gun crimes as much as black or latino.

the rate for black and latino kids is probably so much higher proportionately that it is difficult to ascertain and Holder's DOJ...the folks who are supposed to record such things ...dare not even try would be my guess because they simply do not face truths they don't like

like some freepers come to think of it

103 posted on 01/06/2012 8:20:53 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt...now Santorum?......Capt Trips could not say it better)
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To: LowOiL
interesting I never knew that

i have a lot of boys and a lot of bb and pellet arms...as well as the real stuff

the Red Ryder stuff is weaker than in my day..bounces off sparrows...think Lassie or My Three Sons era for me...all boys had guns then...now moms keep them lassoed up with video games pretending instead of doing...like their daddies come to think of it..lol

the BB pistol...which is metal btw...will sting you good

the Benjamen and Crossman pellet shooting arms in either .177 or .22 will hurt but they have been tuned down to less pressure given per pump...we used to be able to pump up to squirrel lethal in about 7 pumps...now it's much harder

I have a Crossman .177 1955 commemorative pellet pistol that is much stronger with the CO2 than the later ones

I have seen someone shot with a .22 Benjamen...not likely lethal but can put your eye out or lodge near the spine..as in the case I saw

They do make larger barrel rifles now in air that will shoot I think 1500 fps or so in .22....not sure I would call that a medium or large game rifle but good for some varmints at reasonable range with a distress call I guess

I am not aware of larger air guns though they may be out there...the higher velocity ones are not cheap

104 posted on 01/06/2012 8:32:07 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt...now Santorum?......Capt Trips could not say it better)
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To: wardaddy

my white father was a highschool basketball star and college scholarship player


105 posted on 01/06/2012 10:02:56 AM PST by elvis-lives
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