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Why Gingrich tanked (What happened to his surge?)
Washington Examiner ^ | 01/07/2012 | Byron York

Posted on 01/07/2012 2:20:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: LS
And as soon as Romney is alone at the top, then the long knives will come out for him.

Saw the hideous Debbie "Washerwoman" on Greta the other night and it was nothing but projectile regurgitating of the Dems line re: Romney. They're already after him ... and it's not going to be pretty. What was MOST disturbing was a lot of what she said was actually true (everything he has flip-flopped on, etc.)

21 posted on 01/07/2012 2:51:20 PM PST by MissMagnolia (ObamaCare side effects: headache,delayed treatment, 0 choice,sky-rocketing taxes & premature death)
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems when there was a lull in debates the negative ads had a serious impact. When he debates everyone can see how effective he is. Newt/_______ -2012


22 posted on 01/07/2012 2:54:13 PM PST by paintriot
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe we need someone who is angry.


23 posted on 01/07/2012 2:55:36 PM PST by Moorings
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To: bwc2221
People tend to vote for candidates that are likable. Newt and Callista are the least likable of the GOP couples.

I think you nailed it.

24 posted on 01/07/2012 2:58:11 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Lazlo in PA
Taking the South Carolina polling data back to the beginning of Dec. 2011 and it shows a huge drop for Gingrich. Something did a number on him for that large of a drop.

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Romney Santorum Gingrich Paul Perry Huntsman Spread
RCP Average 1/4 - 1/5 -- 32.0 21.5 18.0 11.5 5.0 1.5 Romney +10.5
Rasmussen Reports 1/5 - 1/5 750 LV 27 24 18 11 5 2 Romney +3
CNN/Time 1/4 - 1/5 485 LV 37 19 18 12 5 1 Romney +18
Insider Advantage 12/18 - 12/18 736 LV 19 4 31 7 5 4 Gingrich +12
Clemson 12/6 - 12/19 600 LV 21 2 38 10 5 3 Gingrich +17
NBC News/Marist 12/4 - 12/6 635 LV 23 2 42 9 7 3 Gingrich +19

25 posted on 01/07/2012 3:00:07 PM PST by deport
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To: sageb1

I do not know the words needed to describe my disgust for Fox news.

When the People realize, if they ever do, just how much FOX has helped to destroy our candidates and thus destroy our country, it is my fantasy to see Fox news go broke.

If FNC is successful at shoving Romney down our throats, thus giving Obama 4 more years to destroy our country, it should be time work on their advertisers to help to bring FNC down.


26 posted on 01/07/2012 3:02:11 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: neverbluffer

Here is a list of lies that Gingrich has clarified ...

Fact Check: Latest Ad by Pro-Romney Super PAC “Restore Our Future” Contains Numerous Lies and Falsehoods

Atlanta, GA - Newt 2012 released a fact sheet today responding to the latest dishonest attack ad aired by pro-Romney Super-Pac “Restore our Future”:

Falsehood: Freddie Mac paid Newt $30,000 an hour - $1.6 million.

The Truth:

“I think less than maybe once a month, they [Freddie Mac] would drop by. We’d spend an hour [talking].”
-Newt Gingrich, On the Record with Greta Van Susteren, 11/17/11

It is this remark which the Super-Pac uses to justify this gross distortion.

First, Freddie Mac was a client of the Gingrich Group, a firm with thirty employees and offices in three cities. The client fees were not paid directly to Newt, they were paid to the company, and the vast majority of it went to staff salaries, health insurance, rent and other overhead.

Second, like any consulting firm, a great deal of work and research goes into the recommendations given. Newt and his staff spent time preparing for these meetings, putting in hours of research to bring a well informed opinion. To report that a one hour meeting is the extent of their work is ignorant of standard business practice.

Falsehood: Gingrich teamed up with Nancy Pelosi on global warming.

The Truth: Newt absolutely opposes “cap and trade,” which Nancy Pelosi supports, as well as any system of taxing carbon emissions. He testified before Congress against the Nancy Pelosi-backed cap and trade effort in 2009 and led a grassroots effort while he was the Chairman of American Solutions to block its passage in the House and Senate. Newt repeatedly states there is no scientific evidence to justify a large government, centralized response.

Falsehood: Together [Gingrich & Pelosi] they co-sponsored a bill that gave $60 million a year to a U.N. program supporting China’s brutal “One Child” policy.

The Truth: Newt never voted for this legislation and this never became law. Additionally, Ronald Reagan’s Mexico City Policy was in place in 1989, which would have prevented any money going toward abortions in support of China’s One Child Policy:

“As to US contributions to the United Nations Fund for Population Activities, their continuation will be conditional on “concrete assurances” that no part of the US monies will be used for abortion and the Fund does not support abortion or coercive family planning programs.”
-US Policy Statement for the International Conference on Population, 1984

This policy applied to any legislation passed through 1993, and implicitly prohibits any US funds from going to China’s One Child policy.

Falsehood: As Speaker, Gingrich even supported taxpayer funding of some abortions.

The Truth:

“House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Sunday supported the availability of federally- financed abortions for poor women who are victims of rape or incest.”
-Chicago Tribune, April 10, 1995

Newt supported Hyde amendment language, which prohibits federal funding for abortions. This language often makes exceptions for rape, incest, or the life of the mother, and is supported by conservative members of Congress. These clauses were found in the Republican supported Stupak Amendment to President Obama’s healthcare bill. Newt recognized that an outright ban on federal funding of abortion would not be signed by Bill Clinton, and worked to remove federal abortion funding as much as possible in the existing political framework.

Falsehood: [Newt] was fined $300,000 for ethics violations by a Republican Congress.

The Truth: Eighty-four politically motivated ethics charges were filed against Newt when he was Speaker of the House regarding the use of tax exempt funds for a college course he taught titled “Renewing American Civilization.” Eighty-three of the eighty-four charges were found to be without merit and dropped.

The remaining charge had to do with contradictory documents prepared by Newt’s lawyer supplied during the course of the investigation. Newt took responsibility for the error and agreed to reimburse the committee the cost of the investigation into that discrepancy. The agreement specifically noted that the payment was not a fine, but instead a “cost assessment.” The House vote affirmed this agreement.

In 1999, after a 3 ½ year investigation, the Internal Revenue Service (under President Bill Clinton, nonetheless) concluded that Gingrich did not violate any tax laws, leading renowned CNN Investigative Reporter Brooks Jackson to remark on air “it turns out [Gingrich] was right and those who accused him of tax fraud were wrong.”

For more facts about Newt Gingrich’s record, please visit Newt.org/answers.


27 posted on 01/07/2012 3:05:49 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: Gator113

Yep. It’s been painfully obvious. F&F had an interview with Newt this morning and suddenly Karl (oh Karl we haven’t seen you in over a month) Rove shows up to bash Newt. He’s been acting like he’s OCD. Even Brit Hume’s voice went up 3 notches. They’ve been frantic to take Newt down.


28 posted on 01/07/2012 3:08:24 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt has done a lot of interviews and town halls, etc. in the last month that are just as interesting as what he says in debates, if not moreso. Problem is the media doesn’t seem to cover those at all. They instead pick the one sound bite that keeps the “horse race” going. Romney and Paul say awful lies in their ads, but don’t usually say it themselves out loud. Newt says what they’re doing is unfair and terrible out loud, that gets quoted while nothing else he has been saying gets quoted, and he looks like the bad guy.

There is a big reason the SuperPAC negative ads succeed and it’s because it takes that stuff out of the candidates’ mouth and puts it onto some amorphous non-entity. Without big money, Newt can’t do that type of thing. The idea that you’re supposed to smile and say vicious lies being spread about you by anonymous people doesn’t bother you is just ridiculous. Is it preferable to vote the liars into office instead of the people in the difficult position of defending themselves from the lies?

If voters want to continue to be ignorant about the spin game, not investigate the candidates’ platforms themselves, rely on the information they get from the media in cahoots with the big money candidates, they will get the candidate they deserve.


29 posted on 01/07/2012 3:19:48 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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To: sageb1
Yep, and good ole Rove was there talking about how mad Newt was etc etc. for days. It reminded me of what he did to that Chick Christine, the minute she won.

Rove would rather lose than have anyone who could throw a wrench in the GOP Establishment plans.

30 posted on 01/07/2012 3:24:25 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: meadsjn

Sadly, those polls you cite are from December 19th.

It’s a lot worse now. They may have been his highwater mark.


31 posted on 01/07/2012 3:28:10 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: meadsjn

The South Carolina and Virginia polls are from 12/19/11. In politics that’s a lifetime ago. Meaningless.


32 posted on 01/07/2012 3:31:54 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What happened to the Romneybot York’s credibility? He has none.


33 posted on 01/07/2012 3:34:48 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: bwc2221

I have to say that I agree completely w/ you! There is just something about them that is like one long trip to creepytown. Call it shallow, but there is no getting around that observation!


34 posted on 01/07/2012 3:47:59 PM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bought and paid for polling, gives you support 100 feet wide and 10,000 of an inch thick. In short hype, a fad, the bloom is now off the rose.


35 posted on 01/07/2012 3:49:43 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newts, Perry,s and Willard,s positions on Amnesty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt’s comments about illegal aliens hurt him. Why support illegals?


36 posted on 01/07/2012 3:50:22 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: LS

“he underwent an anal exam with every little comment pulled out from the last 10 years”

Exactly. It is that simple and Newt at first did not have the resources to fight back. Those days are over and Newt is now fighting back. GO NEWT!


37 posted on 01/07/2012 3:50:31 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: bwc2221

While I agree with you that Callista is “unlikeable,” I still think Gingrich has a shot. Callista is going to have to soften her image. When Michelle The Moocher started out, she was worse than she is today (if you can believe it). Callista has got to get rid of that blond-on-blond helmet hairdo and let down her guard a bit (as well as swearing off facelifts and botox treatments). She comes across as incredibly brittle. That being said, I can still support Newt if he can rise above the negative ads being run against him by wealthier candidates.


38 posted on 01/07/2012 3:53:31 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: SeekAndFind
"Rick Santorum's integrity"


in•teg•ri•ty |inˈtegritē|
noun

1 the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness : he is known to be a man of integrity.

2 the state of being whole and undivided : upholding territorial integrity and national sovereignty.


I could stand that in the White House.
39 posted on 01/07/2012 3:58:36 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

The Man Who Couldn’t Beat Obama Endorses the Man Who Couldn’t Beat McCain

http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2012/01/04/the-man-who-couldnt-beat-obama-endorses-the-man-who-couldnt-beat-mccain/


40 posted on 01/07/2012 4:03:43 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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