Posted on 01/11/2012 9:29:52 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
CHICAGO—Smoking a joint once a week or a bit more apparently doesn't harm the lungs, suggests a 20-year study that bolsters evidence that marijuana doesn't do the kind of damage tobacco does.
The results, from one of the largest and longest studies on the health effects of marijuana, are hazier for heavy users -- those who smoke two or more joints daily for several years. The data suggest that using marijuana that often might cause a decline in lung function, but there weren't enough heavy users among the 5,000 young adults in the study to draw firm conclusions.
Still, the authors recommended "caution and moderation when marijuana use is considered."
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
You've already seen the numbers for more-than-monthly-but-less-than-weekly pot smoking - and been given a link to the methodology. Yet you continue to state your discredited opinion as fact.
and from reading this study, they are basing things off of the honesty of the respondent.
So you're suggesting that the subjects who showed no lung damage were only claiming to be once-a-week pot smokers when they really didn't smoke at all? Because that's the only dishonesty that could bias the results toward understating the harm of pot.
I was just cracking wise. While I’m not a big GD fan, I can appreciate some of their stuff. Phish I know nothing about, except for that they’re a jamband, and jambands don’t really appeal to me. Granted, when I’m IN jambands I’m as happy as a clam, but I ain’t going to go see one.
For twenty years they bullsh*t the people conducting this study, masked any and all physical effects from smoking the chronic, and downplayed their dosage just to rig the study to come to this conclusion? Thousands of study participants did this?
You're really torturing things here.
Why not just admit you plain just don't like the outcome of this study and just go from there? It'd be far more honest. Some people just don't like people who smoke pot. It's cool. Pot's not for everyone.
I am curious why you are here at a Conservative site pushing for legalization of Pot based on some unnecessary study a Commie Pinko HHS employee decided to waste taxpayers dollars on? Feel free to keep toking on a Bong if you want. I have no interest in legalizing this.
Personal freedom. Limited government.
The outcome of this study is stupid because it looks into something that doesn’t happen. Who exactly are these folks having just one joint a week. Pot smokers smoke pot all the time because they are of your mind. Pot is cool and is safe. I disagree on both counts. This implausible test of mythical one joint a week smokers defies logic and reason, which is generally the case with most Gov’t studies.
Doing one line of coke a week will not affect your lungs either. Should we legalize that?
It certainly happens. You just can't bring yourself to admit it.
You're not using your rational mind here, Lazlo. You're letting your emotions get in the way.
More pot smokers are democrats than republicans. Wonder why that is? /sarcasm
Probably easier to bang their chicks?
Because that's the conservative position - just like legalizing alcohol and ending Prohibition was the conservative position.
based on some unnecessary study
Studies on health effects of life choices are "unnecessary"?
a Commie Pinko HHS employee decided to waste taxpayers dollars on?
Where's the evidence any of the researchers are "Commie Pinkos"?
Feel free to keep toking on a Bong if you want.
Oh, so you do support legalization? (BTW, I don't smoke pot - nor drink the lethal addictive drug alcohol.)
I have no interest in legalizing this.
Nor in any inconvenient facts, it seems.
Then why do you folks always seem to peddle dope smoking? Why not huffing gasoline soaked rags? Cocaine use? Unlimited speed limits? Whenever I dig deeper in these discussion, it always proves out that people pushing for pot are Ron Paul supporters and Libertarians. I have no interest in either. I am a straight up Conservative.
The available evidence - none from you - says otherwise.
Should those things be illegal? Now you want a War On Gasoline?
Unlimited speed limits?
Speeding is a clear and present danger to others - smoking pot is not.
“You don’t see anyone here, including me, advocating marijuana use by “young people.” Your argument is a POS.”
Add “makes you rude” to the list of things pot does to you.
Also it compromises your cognitive abilities, because my argument wasn’t concerned with “children.” It’s concerned with people 15-25 — some of whom are adults — who smoke the most pot. And suffer the devastating consequences.
What you libertarians fail to understand is that your individual choices affect me, because you’re not an island. I don’t want to live in the kind of crap, third-world country that tolerates prostitution and heroin usage, because I know what sort of society results. For the same reason, I want to keep pot out.
And it’s not your government that’s telling you what to — it’s your fellow citizens. When pot legalization was put on the ballot here in California last time around, it failed.
So stop screaming about “the government” — the people of this country don’t want that noxious, evil weed legalized. Except you. And you only get one vote.
Yes - just like we legalized drinking oneself into an early grave. It's not pretty, but the criminalization "cure" is worse than the disease.
I don't think medical science is quite there yet.
Why don't you find a joint and familiarize yourself with the product before jumping on the pot bandwagon. If you think drinking is "lethal addictive" and pot is fine, you have never done either. Using your logic, we should legalize gay marriage because when you get down to it, it doesn't really effect anyone else, right?
Because that's the conservative position - just like legalizing alcohol and ending Prohibition was the conservative position.
That is a canard. All the people who supported Prohibition are the ones who about faced and called for repeal after the whole thing blew up in their faces with crime. If you are not aware, FDR used repeal as a campaign issue in '32 and it was a Rat campaign plank. Some Conservative that FDR was.
Another conservative statist outs himself. Or herself.
Listen, it's impossible to argue on a rational or logical level with someone who insists upon using progressive strategy to push a political agenda. I'm not trying to insult you; I'm just being honest. If we're going to dissect this issue from the conservative standpoint---which I believe is the rational one, by the way---there's no way you can argue for the continued criminalization of marijuana and yet remain consistent with other conservative values grounded on individual freedom and liberty.
What you fail to understand is that this basis for your stance: "that your individual choices affect me, because you're not an island" has no limit. I could make a logical argument that simply by drawing a breath my actions affect others. It's nebulous. It's inaccurate. It doesn't tell the whole story. And for God's sake, it's not a principle on which to base law that governs free people.
Unless you're a statist.
To that, I would add most of Wake of the Flood and From the Mars Hotel.
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