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Saudis worry over North American shale oil surge
financialpost.com ^ | 14-21-11 | Yadullah Hussain

Posted on 01/11/2012 10:05:38 AM PST by bayouranger

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To: 1010RD
Will Texas ever see the levels of the 80s again?

Measured in Dollars, we are already past that point.

Measured in Barrels, who knows, maybe, maybe not.

Measured in unemployed following the boom, I sure hope not.

41 posted on 01/11/2012 12:07:45 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

Est.’s on the Green River are off the charts, but geographiclly it sits in Co, Wy, Ut. on the western side of the Rockies.


42 posted on 01/11/2012 12:08:24 PM PST by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: bayouranger

They know that when they cannot sell their oil anymore, they will have to go back to living off camel dung.


43 posted on 01/11/2012 12:15:12 PM PST by cartan
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To: thackney; 1010RD

I had a conversation a couple of months ago with the principal of an engineering firm that does lots of work in the Haynesville Shale in NW Louisiana. His crew also doing some work in Pennsylvania in the Marcellus Shale. I asked him about the tree huggers, etc. and how much of a problem they really were.

His comment was that once the royalty checks began to flow to landowners and local governments, that the racket from the enviros tended to abate.


44 posted on 01/11/2012 12:17:31 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: thackney
They just announced that the North Dakota Bakken shale has reached 510 MBD production. Pretty amazing. Pipeline dynamics are also beginning to change. For the first time Marcella gas is replacing western and Canadian gas and serving the northeastern markets. An interesting read from Oil and Gas Investments Bulletin can be found here:

A New Trend that Could Affect Natural Gas Pipeline Stocks

The continental pipeline system will still be necessary for US energy security and price stability, but the local shale plays will be having a much more dramatic impact on NG prices. I doubt traditional gas plays will be competitive in the long run. I am also watching the western Utica plays closely. These are promising very lucrative oil production.
45 posted on 01/11/2012 12:21:54 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: thackney

Yep! Thanks for correction.


46 posted on 01/11/2012 12:21:54 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: thackney

Yep! Thanks for correction.


47 posted on 01/11/2012 12:22:40 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: thackney

Thanks. What’s holding back barrel production in TX?


48 posted on 01/11/2012 12:38:20 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: abb

Capitalism is the only thing to silence the muggers.


49 posted on 01/11/2012 12:42:25 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I don’t think anything is really holding back production in Texas. But you are talking about a rather big hill to climb compared to where we were in the 1980’s.

Remember the shale production in the Bakken has several years head start on the shale in Texas’ Eagle Ford and Permian Basin.

But it is not for lack of drilling. Lots of rigs working here now.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BHI/1621641500x0x532188/CB796FB2-6E26-4FC9-B138-750BBDC1D4E9/na_charts_010612.pdf

Nearly half of all drilling rigs operating in the United States are drilling in Texas 927 out of 2,007 at last count.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BHI/1621641500x0x532187/59824824-AE4A-44F4-A754-BC249C3DF23E/Rigs_by_State_010612.pdf


50 posted on 01/11/2012 12:58:20 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Recon Dad

“...georgraphically it sits in Co, Wy, Ut. on the side of the Rockies.”

Hmmm, guess my memory is fading. Then again, it was a research paper I wrote in college back in 1985. Last time I looked at it was 20 years ago. Guess I need to read it again before I quote it next time.

Thanks.


51 posted on 01/11/2012 1:15:05 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: rhombus

Mainly from us, the taxpayers. They have a real scam going. The EPA gives them grants, they sue the gov’t for some bogus reason, and the EPA gives them even more $. It’s money laundering, pure and simple.


52 posted on 01/11/2012 1:15:27 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik
“Green River Oil Shale Deposit” in 1985. This particular shale deposit extends from the Rocky Mountains to the Appalachins

http://ostseis.anl.gov/guide/oilshale/

More than 70% of the total oil shale acreage in the Green River Formation, including the richest and thickest oil shale deposits, is under federally owned and managed lands. Thus, the federal government directly controls access to the most commercially attractive portions of the oil shale resource base.

53 posted on 01/11/2012 1:18:53 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: bayouranger

I would argue that it might not be the problem it is thought to be.

As early as say 1985 the practice of Saudization began in earnest. That is foreign employees were eased out and replaced by Saudis. It was and is not now an easy process because there is not the backstop of experience to rely on. They now have 25 years more experience in the various non oil production businesses and manufacturing concerns than back then.

However, many ambitious young Saudis came to America and received first rate educations in a variety of fields. They are now in a generational position to take over from their fathers and uncles.

Years ago there was argument and disagreement in Saudi Arabia about conservation of resources, especially oil resources. While the change will produce a disruption of sales, it is not a shock, in fact there are likely plans in place to mitigate the change.

The loss of oil revenue will be the incentive for continuing growth and increased capacity of other industry. The current decrease will prolong the stream from known capacity


54 posted on 01/11/2012 1:31:04 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

You were on the money on estimates 1.3 to 2.0 Trillion BOE. Recoverable is estimated at 750 billion BOE. Big numbers!

Northeast of this is the Niobrara.


55 posted on 01/11/2012 1:35:55 PM PST by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: bert
Go purify mecca with mo-mo. Those koranimals tried to destroy America. (Spit)
56 posted on 01/11/2012 1:55:24 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: thackney

Yeah, I know. FYI...my memory is fading.

I was quoting from memory based on a research paper I wrote in college (1985). Last time I looked at it was 20 years ago. I’ll be sure to read it and get my facts straight before quote it again.

Thanks.


57 posted on 01/11/2012 2:37:31 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

There is oil shale over at the Appalachian mountains. It just isn’t continuous with the Green River.

I didn’t mean to pile on after others pointed it out. I just wanted to give a link for more information.


58 posted on 01/11/2012 2:41:58 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Obadiah
As long as Obama is in office they have nothing to worry about.

As long as Obama Democrats and RINOs are in office they have nothing to worry about.

59 posted on 01/11/2012 4:48:42 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's War on Prosperity is killing me)
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To: bayouranger

The world’s cheapest oil to extract comes from Saudi Arabia and costs $2 a barrel, not the 30-60 bucks that they say it cost. they have been bleeding the world dry for 80 years it is now time to get off the Saudi teat.


60 posted on 01/11/2012 4:58:52 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Grammar & spelling maybe wrong, get over it, the world will not come to an end!)
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