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You can blame Mitt, but not for Bain
Politico ^ | 01/12/12 | Steve Rattner

Posted on 01/12/2012 1:09:55 PM PST by freespirited

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To: truth_seeker

They know nothing about real entrepreneurship.


21 posted on 01/12/2012 1:58:25 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Bain Capital was founded in 1984 by Romney and 2 other men...

So it was not a publicly owned company with shareholders etc., if I understand correctly?

22 posted on 01/12/2012 1:58:57 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: freespirited
Tell me why you think it was okay for Bain and Romney to make millions and leave everyone else holding the bag?

Did you watch King of Bain?

23 posted on 01/12/2012 1:58:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: freespirited

No one is saying Bain got a bailout.

He stripped the companies, loaded them up with loans, walked away with his checks and bonuses.

The company collapsed and tax payers had to pay out for the pensions plans via The federal insurace on the plan. ($44 million dollars of OUR money.)


24 posted on 01/12/2012 2:02:04 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: freespirited

No one is saying Bain got a bailout.

He stripped the companies, loaded them up with loans, walked away with his checks and bonuses.

The company collapsed and tax payers had to pay out for the pensions plans via The federal insurace on the plan. ($44 million dollars of OUR money.)


25 posted on 01/12/2012 2:02:53 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: JimRed

OMG.

The only one he really cared about was Mitt Romney. A quarter of a billion... that we know about.


26 posted on 01/12/2012 2:04:22 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: freespirited
‘Pension funds pay a premium to the Pension Benefit Guarantee agency.’

Yes, and just like the FDIC and Fanny and Freddie they have a permanent loss and run a massive deficit that is taken care of by Government back stopping. IE OUR MONEY!

It has long been a game of corporatist like Romney to use OUR MONEY to to feather their own beds. It is easy to make money if you are willing to do any number of unsavory and repugnant things. Ask any drug dealer how profitable it is. The difference being that Bain and Romney simply used existing Bankruptcy and lending laws to over extend companies and bankrupt them after looting all the assets.

Romney is not now and never has been a capitalist. He is a Crony Capitalist and Corporatist.

27 posted on 01/12/2012 2:05:03 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: JimRed
Here's the problem, there is conflicting info. And he isn't clearing it up. There are certainly more than 3 guys in this photo. And, yes, it's listed as private. But many articles list it as having paid shareholders. It's as clear as mud.



28 posted on 01/12/2012 2:06:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: kenavi

Oh, I’m sure we’ll get to meet each and every one that was screwed over by Bain and Lehmann Brothers.

But not now (because we’d be anti-capitalists if we ask any questions... so we must be quiet).. wait until Sept. and Oct.


29 posted on 01/12/2012 2:07:37 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Jim from C-Town
‘Pension funds pay a premium to the Pension Benefit Guarantee agency.’ ...Yes, and just like the FDIC and Fanny and Freddie they have a permanent loss and run a massive deficit that is taken care of by Government back stopping. IE OUR MONEY!

I'm no expert on its operations. You'll have to take it up with PBGC, which says the following on its website:

PBGC receives no funds from general tax revenues

30 posted on 01/12/2012 2:55:27 PM PST by freespirited
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To: DJ MacWoW
Who are the participants?

Employers who have defined benefit pension plans for their workers.

31 posted on 01/12/2012 2:57:00 PM PST by freespirited
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To: DJ MacWoW
Did you watch King of Bain?

I watched the first 12 minutes then couldn't take anymore. Obvious to me that it was a lefty hatchet job.

Bain did 77 deals during Romney's tenure. When someone will only talk about four, you have to suspect cherry-picking of facts. Not to mention that Romney was gone from Bain when the steel company that has been discussed so much went under.

I still believe that the focus should be on his time in office.

32 posted on 01/12/2012 3:01:41 PM PST by freespirited
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To: Reagan69

Don’t take my word for it, read this:

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/287927

According to NRO, Romney left Bain two years before that company collapsed.


33 posted on 01/12/2012 3:06:34 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
Obvious to me that it was a lefty hatchet job.

Romney supporter are ya?

King of Bain was made by Jason Killian Meath who writes for Breitbart and The Daily Caller. He also worked for Romney in 2008.

Bain did 77 deals during Romney's tenure

If you had actually watched the film you'd know that the SEC has docs that say Romney did NOT leave Bain.

But you're certain a right-winger made a liberal hatchet job. Riiiiiight.

34 posted on 01/12/2012 3:29:25 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: freespirited

General Tax Revenues.................OK! Technically neithjer does fannie or fredie


35 posted on 01/12/2012 3:33:04 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
King of Bain was made by Jason Killian Meath who writes for Breitbart and The Daily Caller. He also worked for Romney in 2008.

What matters is accuracy, not affiliation. Last night Bay Buchanan indicated that Romney did not work on two of the four companies in the film. Also read elsewhere that accusations made about KB Toys are off, the problems happened post-Bain.

If you had actually watched the film you'd know that the SEC has docs that say Romney did NOT leave Bain.

I think Romney will have little difficulty establishing that he left Bain to run the Olympics. The claim that he did not leave based on what sounds like a routine SEC filing has been refuted. He still had an interest in the company but no longer worked there.

Romney supporter are ya?

Nooooooooooooooooooooo way. Just don't like hatchet jobs.

36 posted on 01/13/2012 10:31:26 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
I see. You can make wild accusations but the truth isn't important. Got it.

I think Romney will have little difficulty establishing that he left Bain to run the Olympics.

He FOUNDED Bain. In 1984 with 2 other men. He wasn't/isn't some hired CEO.

The claim that he did not leave based on what sounds like a routine SEC filing has been refuted. He still had an interest in the company but no longer worked there.

He NEVER "worked" there. He OWNS it.

I searched Edgar which are SEC filings.

The following is an excerpt from a DEF 14A SEC Filing, filed by ONESOURCE INFORMATION SERVICES INC on 4/18/2001.

(4) According to a Schedule 13G filed on February 14, 2000, the sole general partner of Information Partners Capital Fund, L.P. is Information Partners. The general partners of Information Partners that have a beneficial interest in the shares listed in the table above are David Dominik, a former director of the Company, Mark Nunnelly, Stephen G. Pagliuca, and Bain Capital Partners IV, L.P., whose general
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partner is a corporation wholly-owned by W. Mitt Romney.

Want more links?

The following is an excerpt from a S-1 SEC Filing, filed by NETLIBRARY INC on 8/17/2000.

(o) Includes 527,129 shares held by Bain Capital Fund VI, L.P., whose sole general partner is Bain Capital Partners VI, L.P., whose sole general partner is Bain Capital Investors VI, Inc., a Delaware corporation wholly owned by W. Mitt Romney; 115,138 shares held by BCIP Associates II, a Delaware general partnership of which the managing general partner is Bain Capital, Inc., which is wholly owned by W. Mitt Romney; 16,645 shares held by BCIP Associates II-B, a Delaware general partnership of which the managing general partner is Bain Capital, Inc., which is wholly owned by W. Mitt Romney;

FReepers used to actually do their own research rather than rely on the press and talking heads. Alternative media? Not anymore. Pajamas media? HA!

37 posted on 01/13/2012 11:15:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I don't get your point. Sounds like you are saying that anyone with an ownership interest is intimately involved in all decision-making. Meanwhile, this is interesting:

Four Pinocchios for King of Bain

You can despise him all you want for his time at Bain; I say it's his time in office where you find what really matters.

38 posted on 01/13/2012 12:53:51 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
I don't get your point.

That's telling.

Have a nice day.

39 posted on 01/13/2012 12:59:43 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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