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Allen West: War is Hell (Responds to "Urinegate")
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Posted on 01/13/2012 11:25:48 AM PST by Retired Greyhound

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To: Retired Greyhound

I agree with Col. West and his punishment assessment. What we as Americans should also see is a video of what these Soldiers are subjected to in war...ie a video of what the Taliban(enemy) has done to the men, women and children of the villages that they have gone into and decimated. That would be one hell of a video for all to see to get a clear picture. Just sayin’


61 posted on 01/13/2012 2:11:59 PM PST by marygam ((Hurry November 2012, we might not make it))
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To: Retired Greyhound
When I was going through Quantico in 1968, there were several senior enlisted instructors who were veterans of many of the WW II Pacific Island campaigns..from Guadalcanal through Iwo. The stories they told of what that war was REALLY like almost defy description.

The two most successful examples of "nation building" in history are Japan and Germany, post war. It has long been my contention that the reason that it has been so successful is that we FIRST beat the crap out of the entire country, including "civilian" casualties...as if Germans and Japs were ever really civilians....they made it possible for the war machine to continue. In Iraq, because we were sooooo careful to avoid "pissing" in the diretcon of a mosque, let alone allowing terrorists safe harbor in them, the insurrection lasted for 5 years after the "war" was over. We suffered MORE KIA and WIA after hostilities officially ended, and probably tens of thousands of Iraqis were killed and maimed in that period. Had we fought the war without worrying about political correctness, put the fear of God in the populace..they had to fear us MORE than the terrorists they harbored...it might have been all over in a few short months, and Iraq woul be a better place for it today.

62 posted on 01/13/2012 2:20:22 PM PST by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: ken5050

Your #62 is dead on. As any military member knows, you need get someone’s attention first before you can expect their discipline.


63 posted on 01/13/2012 2:24:03 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Memo:

FROM: Alan West
TO: Liberal Talking Heads
SUBJECT: Urinegate:

“F**k You Very Much,”

Regards, Alan


64 posted on 01/13/2012 2:24:30 PM PST by MindBender26 (Don't bother me with the small stuff. I'm too busy trying to save the Republic from Obamaism)
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To: ken5050

I disagree with the WWII comparison.

When Germany surrendered, the insurgency was short-lived, b/c, really, what was the point? National Socialism as an ethos was dead and buried, and no amount of guerilla raids was going to change that.

When Japan surrendered, the Emperor said it was over. Who’s going to counter the Emperor?

In the case of Islam, who do you subjugate to get them to calm the hell down? There is no central leadership caste, no central anything really. When you utterly crush Iraq, how has that affected Iran? Or Saudi Arabia? Or Indonesia? Or Pakistan? Or Afghanistan? The ONLY answer would be to pursue complete annihilation and even the U.S. of the 1940s didn’t have the will to do any such thing.

This war is totally different from any other in our history and drawing comparisons is fruitless.


65 posted on 01/13/2012 2:27:10 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Retired Greyhound

I have read that it is part of the jihad religion that if a jihadist goes to heaven pissed on, he does not get the 72 virgins. If this is true, then, that is a feature of this war on jihadi terrorists and fair game.


66 posted on 01/13/2012 2:34:29 PM PST by depressed in 06 ( Where is the 1984 Apple Super Bowl ad when we need it?)
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To: CodeToad; RitaOK

>> “If you don’t like war then don’t wage war.” <<

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Unfortunately, that is exactly what the mediots want. If we don’t go to war, the crap that we fight will grow, and conquer the world, if it hasn’t already.


67 posted on 01/13/2012 2:39:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
these Marines failed. They should be disciplined - bust them in rank, give them the “Big Chicken Dinner(BCD)” - they will be an example of how not to behave for Marines in the future.

That likely would have happened had they not been so stupid as to allow the video to access the internet. Or better yet, not videoed themselves in the act........Stupid is as stupid does and whatever comes down, they brought it on themselves.

68 posted on 01/13/2012 2:50:13 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: editor-surveyor

My point is they want a police action and not a war, and if we ever meet an enemy that wages war we will be doomed. Technology cannot win a hand to hand bloody fight. I don’t see a foreign invasion any time soon but I do see possible wars that we cannot win using technology alone. Even fighting ragheads with rusty weapons we took a beating but had we waged war and not a civil action we would not have.


69 posted on 01/13/2012 2:51:04 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

A letter of reprimand placed in their personal files?

OUCH!!! AARGGH!!! OH, THE PAIN!!

Apologizing to the rest of their Battalion brethren is a fitting punishment. This was an embarrassment, nothing more, and should be treated as such.


70 posted on 01/13/2012 2:51:22 PM PST by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. - Robert Heinlein)
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To: CodeToad

Understood.


71 posted on 01/13/2012 2:53:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

A BCD really? You are a real putz.


72 posted on 01/13/2012 2:59:40 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ken5050
And we fought this war the way we have because of the fear of what the left would do. An excerpt from “Lone Survivor” where Marcus Luttrell sums up what happens when we fight a war trying to appease the left:

“Look at me, right now in my story. Helpless, tortured, shot, blown up, my best buddies all dead, and all because we were afraid of the liberals back home, afraid to do what was necessary to save our own lives. Afraid of American civilian lawyers. I have only one piece of advice for what it's worth: if you don't want to get into a war where things go wrong, where the wrong people sometimes get killed, where innocent people sometimes have to die, then stay the hell out of it in the first place.”

73 posted on 01/13/2012 3:01:36 PM PST by bevperl (Support our Troops!)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Sure it may turn world opinion against us, but the world hates us anyway.

I want these primitive medieval goat f-ers to fear us.

74 posted on 01/13/2012 3:03:29 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jesseam

You bet! God Bless You For Your Service!!!


75 posted on 01/13/2012 3:03:44 PM PST by bevperl (Support our Troops!)
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To: central_va

>>>A BCD really? You are a real putz

What they did was bad conduct, arseportal.


76 posted on 01/13/2012 3:04:07 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmit. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: jesseam

You bet! God Bless You For Your Service!!!


77 posted on 01/13/2012 3:04:07 PM PST by bevperl (Support our Troops!)
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To: jesseam

You bet! God Bless You For Your Service!!!


78 posted on 01/13/2012 3:04:28 PM PST by bevperl (Support our Troops!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Times are tough all over.


79 posted on 01/13/2012 3:04:39 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Mack the knife
The Marines should absolutely be disciplined for pissing on them. That is what pigblood is for.

The proper protocol when handling terrorists is piss on the wounded, shat on the dead. Dismissed.

80 posted on 01/13/2012 3:06:30 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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