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To: vette6387

What are the proper procedures that police should follow in a case like this?


13 posted on 01/14/2012 12:18:56 PM PST by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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Considering the victim was confused, disoriented and already couldn't breathe due to advanced COPD, they might have considered taking him to an ER before giving him the rubber hose treatment.
27 posted on 01/14/2012 12:35:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Well, for one thing, if he’s restrained and has a spit hood on, it’s hard to understand why pepper-spray would even come into the picture. What were they trying to accomplish by spraying him? Yeah, that’s a tough one to answer.


45 posted on 01/14/2012 1:10:52 PM PST by SuzyQue (Don't believe everything you think.)
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"What are the proper procedures that police should follow in a case like this?"

There is no definitive answer here. I can only generalize about how we would handled it.

It is possible that we would have initially arrested him for being drunk in public. After a few hours he would have been released with no charges being filed. Our jurisdiction simply won't waste time going to court on drunk in public cases.

If he had gone back to the hotel, and had been arrested for trespassing, we would have cited him and told him not to go back. If he went back, we might have arrested him, and then the jail would have cited him right out again. And this could have happened several times. (Note here that our jurisdiction wouldn't have considered "trespassing" as something to incarcerate someone for a lengthy period of time without a court order.) Hopefully, at some point, and hopefully early, someone who had been told that he had mental health problems would have directed patrol or detention personnel to take him to the hospital and turned over to mental health personnel.

What was lacking in this case was compassion and common sense. And no amount of proper procedures training can be counted upon when common sense is lacking.

47 posted on 01/14/2012 1:12:38 PM PST by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: donna
What are the proper procedures that police should follow in a case like this?

Not speaking as someone who has any experience in law enforcement, but just from the standpoint of reason along, the only time I can see using pepper spray on a suspect is out in the field if he's armed or otherwise dangerous (like on PCP for example) and you're trying to get him in custody. IN custody, I could only see it in a case again where the guy poses a danger, especially if he's significantly larger than the officer or officers dealing with him. For "punishment" or as an interrogation technique, no way. 62 year old man strapped to a chair, I don't think so. Even the "spit hood". Can't they just put him in a cell by himself or turn him towards the wall? "Spit all you want, ahole!"

121 posted on 01/16/2012 5:53:31 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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