Posted on 01/15/2012 4:25:20 AM PST by Stoat
That will be the 'argument' made by the 'usual suspect' shrill and hysterical Leftist pressure groups, politicians and media trash, and that will be the only reason why he will win.... a runners-up slot at minimum. It will be a political appointment, nothing more.
I feel terribly sad for the other actual FEMALE contestants who have worked so very hard to be a part of this pageant and will be utterly devastated when they learn that they've been beaten by a GUY, and a mentally-ill one at that.
What a terrible thing for a pretty and talented young lady to have to carry on her shoulders for the rest of her life.
The Sun as well as many other UK media sites are legendary for VERY aggressive comment-editing and deletion. If your post doesn't mirror the views of the editor your words will never be posted or will be quickly taken down.
It's some prime real estate...
Of course the 'talent scouts' are lying and he was purposely chosen because of his mental illness and self-mutilation. This is no random accident and only Leftists would believe that it is.
I hope that enough people still care about truth and will be willing to stand up to the lies of the Left.
You seem blissfully ignorant about the lynching of Republicans by the same group who lynched blacks.
I like to give race baiters wedgies, right after I beat them up and take away their lunch money.
Sure he says that now. Wait until he realizes that what his mother did to him was on the order of several magnitudes worse than anything a schoolyard bully could possibly dream up.
As time uh - drags on, what will he think of normal society, the one that has a simple yet persistent expectation that the curtains will match the carpet chromosomes?
Best scenario: back to Thailand for him I suppose.
All that mommied up screed and race baiting to boot
Do you let yer husband sit in the front...much less drive?
When I see utter touchy feely tripe like you just posted its easy to see how far we have collapsed...
Emasculate white men so they wont be racist for God’s sake?
Anything is now excused due to past sins of the formerly evil peckerwood?
The same ones who saved yer prissy butt in the 1940S.....why those sorry bullying racists
You gotta be kidding me honey....
And on a conservative forum....
I send a bully mysoginist testosterone fart in your general direction
Being a southern ....racist to you im sure gent...you can have last word
Puff loudly
You know Bear...in my astonishment of the race baiting body slam she tossed at The Greatest Generation and so forth
I forgot the admonition you reminded me of...
used commonly here
playing the race card is the refuge of folks who can’t defend their position
“...We find the child ones frankly disgusting, “
My friend, most Americans feel that way too.
We're supposed to be cowed when they bring up race. It's fun to fire back at them, full force. They can't cope when confronted on their BS.
Since you pinged me to your post, I’ll reply but I have to tell you that the race baiting comment is a huge turn-off.
“Isn’t it bad enough, without boys and men making it even more difficult for each other by bullying each other?”
Define “bullying” because what I see is a word that has been used to define a slew of behavior that isn’t even remotely close to what the original definition of the word meant. Same with a few other words that are now so broadly defined as to mean anything the accusing person wants the word to mean.
“You mean the white maleness of the first half of the last century that lynched others for the crime of dark maleness or stuffed people into the oven for not having the correct type of white maleness? If that’s been lost, then good riddance.”
Race baiting.
” And I know that all white men are not like this, and there are plenty of examples from other groups. The point is if boys are allowed to bully each other when they’re young, where are they going to draw the line when they get older? It’s not stopping it, but failing to stop it, that has resulted in the widespread disfunction of many of today’s boys and young men”
I’m thrilled you know that all white men are not like this. Yay for you. RME
Failing to stop “bullying” (in quotes because I’m not sure what definition we’re using) is what’s caused the widespread dysfunction in many of today’s boys and young men? And here I thought it was the lack of parenting, intrusive liberal policies that have been placed in our schools, the entertainment industry’s successful campaign to slant public opinion to their bias with the help of the MSM and our government.
“To me bullying is always bad and in many cases acts committed during bullying are crimes.”
Why am I not surprised by this statement? Have you read the anti-bullying law that’s now being enforced in our schools? And those acts are criminal. Yay, our kids are now criminals if they violate this new law and even the kids who defend themselves from these so called bullies are criminals.
“I have no problem with teaching boys to defend themselves, but teaching boys not to bully each other is NOT in conflict with teaching them self defense and will NOT stop them from growing up to be real men.”
See, this is where you are wrong again. The whole point of the “anti-bullying” campaign and the new anti-bullying law is to prevent any kind of self defense (zero tolerance and all). So, there is a conflict. Only “minorities” are excluded from hate crime or criminal charges for defending themselves. White males aren’t allowed to defend themselves.
“Isn’t that another way of saying it’s a bad thing that men are so physical.”
No, I think it’s another way of saying females are more vicious and there would be more blood if they were more physical. Sorta like what wardaddy said.
“Did you and Squantos commit violent crimes against other kids, such as assault?”
I can’t answer that question since I’m not either of them. But, I think you have to define “assault” because it’s definition is another one that has expanded. It now includes defending oneself.
“How is trying to stop boys from bullying each other the cause of more serious problems?”
Check out the anti-bullying law. I think you may find the answer to your question.
hat tip and hugs
I pinged you because you were pinged on the post I was replying to, so I figured you were interested in this topic. Judging from your response, it appears that was correct.
I’ll reply but I have to tell you that the race baiting comment is a huge turn-off.
Since you quoted such comments of mine as "And I know that all white men are not like this, and there are plenty of examples from other groups" and "The point is if boys are allowed to bully each other when they’re young, where are they going to draw the line when they get older?", it should have been obvious to you that I wasn't race baiting, but trying to set up a point, that being if we allow boys to bully each other, where will they draw the line?
Define “bullying” because what I see is a word that has been used to define a slew of behavior that isn’t even remotely close to what the original definition of the word meant.
I'll define bullying as committing a violent crime against someone else, or using the threat of such to intimidate another.
I'll also define it as doing something to someone else that you know they don't want you to do, and that you wouldn't want someone to do to you.
Failing to stop “bullying” (in quotes because I’m not sure what definition we’re using)
I just described it for you.
And here I thought it was the lack of parenting, intrusive liberal policies that have been placed in our schools, the entertainment industry’s successful campaign to slant public opinion to their bias with the help of the MSM and our government.
This has a lot to do with why bullying occurs.
Why am I not surprised by this statement? Have you read the anti-bullying law that’s now being enforced in our schools? And those acts are criminal. Yay, our kids are now criminals if they violate this new law and even the kids who defend themselves from these so called bullies are criminals.
It would help if you posted reference to the law, but I've seen enough of this liberal nonsense to accept your comments at face value. No doubt that if one child pretends to arrest another child while playing cops and robbers, that would count as bullying.
And self defense is a right, not a crime. If new anti-bullying laws list that as bullying, then I agree with you on this point.
See, this is where you are wrong again. The whole point of the “anti-bullying” campaign and the new anti-bullying law is to prevent any kind of self defense (zero tolerance and all).
Assuming the law as you describe it was even passed, do you need this law revoked to start telling your sons that it's wrong to attack other boys for no reason other than to beat them up?
So, there is a conflict. Only “minorities” are excluded from hate crime or criminal charges for defending themselves. White males aren’t allowed to defend themselves.
Correction, white males (with few exceptions) DON'T unite and defend themselves against these stupid laws and biased interpretations in the form of class action lawsuits, which is why it keeps happening.
BTW, in case you haven't noticed, it's white males who are passing a lot of these laws.
No, I think it’s another way of saying females are more vicious and there would be more blood if they were more physical. Sorta like what wardaddy said.
Talk about baiting.
I can’t answer that question since I’m not either of them. But, I think you have to define “assault” because it’s definition is another one that has expanded. It now includes defending oneself.
Reference, please.
(My original) How is trying to stop boys from bullying each other the cause of more serious problems?
Check out the anti-bullying law. I think you may find the answer to your question.
Reference, please. And even if this law has been passed and is as bad as you say it is, how is teaching boys not to attack each other or commit other REAL acts of bullying going to lead to more serious problems? Can you answer that without hiding behind some liberal law that both of us would likely disagree with anyway?
Yup, that's why I added "And I know that all white men are not like this, and there are plenty of examples from other groups" and "The point is if boys are allowed to bully each other when they’re young, where are they going to draw the line when they get older?", but I guess you didn't read that far.
Do you let yer husband sit in the front...much less drive?
Well thank you for that informative, well documented, comment.
When I see utter touchy feely tripe like you just posted its easy to see how far we have collapsed...
Boys shooting each other, popping each other in the nuts, and dropping out and committing suicide at much higher rates than girls is not a sign of how far we've collapsed, but my post is.
Emasculate white men so they wont be racist for God’s sake? Anything is now excused due to past sins of the formerly evil peckerwood?
What does teaching your son not to attack other boys have to do with emasculation? NOTHING.
The same ones who saved yer prissy butt in the 1940S.....why those sorry bullying racists
And who did they save us from? WHITE MEN!
Yes, I know they also saved us from the Japanese. As I said in my last post and you missed or ignored, "And I know that all white men are not like this, and there are plenty of examples from other groups".
I send a bully mysoginist testosterone fart in your general direction
That's a good description of your post.
Being a southern ....racist to you im sure gent...you can have last word. Puff loudly
Just when I thought your post couldn't sink any lower...
You seem blissfully ignorant about the lynching of Republicans by the same group who lynched blacks.
I'm not, as I have have made that point myself. But like another, you seem blissfully unaware of what I followed that comment with. I'll repeat.
"And I know that all white men are not like this, and there are plenty of examples from other groups. The point is if boys are allowed to bully each other when they're young, where are they going to draw the line when they get older?"
I like to give race baiters wedgies, right after I beat them up and take away their lunch money.
Then what are you doing behind a computer? The Sharptons and Jacksons out there are easy to find. Go for it.
I could but since your entire post to me is baiting and not really wanting to discuss the issues, I’ll refrain from wasting any more of your time. So, we’re good. RME.
BTW, google the anti bullying law yourself.
Don’t bother getting back to me. It’s obviously been a waste of both our time.
“And who did they save us from? WHITE MEN!”
Good to know your racist agenda is apparent by this statement. All I needed to know and confirmed.
KMA!
(What Twink replied to) And who did they save us from? WHITE MEN!
Good to know your racist agenda is apparent by this statement. All I needed to know and confirmed.
I know you're going to cut anything that doesn't support your accusation, so I posted it again for anyone interested.
BTW, since you insist on concentrating on that one snippet, why don't you try refuting it? The answer is, you can't without repeating the rest of what I posted, thus shooting down your accusations.
KMA!
No.
I could but since your entire post to me is baiting and not really wanting to discuss the issues, I’ll refrain from wasting any more of your time. So, we’re good. RME.
Well let's see, I agreed with you that the anti-bullying law you described was nonsense, and asked "Assuming the law as you describe it was even passed, do you need this law revoked to start telling your sons that it's wrong to attack other boys for no reason other than to beat them up?" and "And even if this law has been passed and is as bad as you say it is, how is teaching boys not to attack each other or commit other REAL acts of bullying going to lead to more serious problems?" What is your problem with answering that?
BTW, google the anti bullying law yourself.
Why do I have to prove YOUR point? You're the one who's is using this law to make whatever point you're trying to make. You prove it.
Don’t bother getting back to me. It’s obviously been a waste of both our time.
As long as you make false accusations against me, I'll keep replying.
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