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To: umgud

My ancestors put their unloaded guns in a locked strong-box every time they they left home and you can bet the founding fathers did also.


Amazing! Just think of the safety and fast response to an armed emergency when your ancestors put their BLACK POWDERED, UNLOADED guns in a locked strong-box every time they left home!

I call you out on this one for it is pure BS. No one was stupid enough to:

Travel without some type of gun.

Carry an unloaded black powdered gun for safety.

Keep an unloaded black powdered gun in their “locked safety” box.

In general, kept the dangerous weapon away from the children in the name of safety.

So much for that.

I will tell you what your ancestors did about their guns; they taught their children and wives about gun safety and gave stern warnings to them if they even touched the guns.....and they meant it. Furthermore, very young boys were expected to be trained in the firing of guns.

Your ancestors were not the sniveling little sheep we have today. Don’t demean their contribution to the protection of the family.

With that in mind, buy (or borrow) a black powdered gun that is an actual flintlock, make sure it is unloaded, place in a locked case or box, go outside and shoot at least 5 of the neighbor’s dogs with a standard pistol, run back into the house (let them see you go in) and wait for them to come to kill you. When that happens, run to the locked box, get the gun, prime and load it, pack it in real good with the ramrod, and see if you can do it before you leave this earth.


9 posted on 01/15/2012 12:28:34 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

As long as you have been around, did I really need a /sarc tag?


10 posted on 01/15/2012 12:32:15 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: DH

There are a myriad of factors that people need to understand about the insane gun laws in NJ. First of which, is that there is no provision for a 2nd Amendment in the State’s constitution. Secondly, are firearms are technically illegal, unless one fits and passes certain exemptions: A firearms purchaser identification card ( in order to purchase and possess long guns), obtaining a permit to purchase a pistol( not for carrying purposes.) Said pistol purchase permits are valid for 90 days, and can be renewed if the issuing department chooses to do so, and one can only purchase (1) handgun every 30 days. These laws are routinely violated by municipal police departments that do not follow the letter of the law when it comes to issuance. There are people that have waited months, even though the law states that 30 days is the time frame to issue purchase permits. On top of that, you have departments that allow only one permit per issuance, even though the law states that you may apply for as many permits as you wish. Certain municipalities also impose additional requirements ( set by the municipalities, not by state law.) Some towns demand a credit check, disclosure to one’s employer, permission from one’s landlord, an affidavit from occupants of the same dwelling stating that it is permissible for one to keep firearms in their dwelling. All of these are illegal, contrary to state law, and certainly do not pass constitutional muster. Furthermore, the former attorney general has made statements to the effect that if NJ did go right to carry, more police would need to be hired to protect the public from such persons who routinely carry firearms. Folks, I’m not making this up. It really is this bad, and it’s going to take a case to the Supreme Court to drag the state kicking and screaming back into compliance. The “justifiable need” clause to qualify for a carry permit is arbitrary, capricious, and unconstitutional to say the least. I highly recommend all residents of New Jersey make it a priority to donate to the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, the Second Amendment Society, and the NRA. As I’ve stated in the past, the culture toward firearms in the State of New Jersey is one of fear and ignorance, and only through education, and legal action against the state can we ever hope to bring New Jersey back into mainstream America as it pertains to our God given right to keep and bear arms.


11 posted on 01/15/2012 2:07:21 PM PST by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy
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