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To: Eldon Tyrell
If you take granny's genealogical materials and track them back to the founding of Harvard you will discover that her ancestors could easily qualify virtually all of its members as LEGACIES many times over.

That's the other 9%.

The deck just isn't stacked for them, they own the deck.

Oh, yeah, and on the "black side of the family", his baby-daddy (putative of course) was a Harvard grad ~ making Obama himself a "legacy" of more recent vintage.

46 posted on 01/17/2012 9:25:31 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Harvard is weird - my comments do not pertain to harvard - as they have always been much more politicized admissions.

However - be careful buying into these “legacy” stories.
It usually only counts for a few points.
One reason it seems to affect Ivy admissions so much - is that many of the applicants - already have near perfect applications.

4.0 GPA, very high SAT, etc etc - so - a few points for “legacy” becomes a large differentiator - not because it is so valuable, but because there is little left to differentiate between the already excellent students. -

imagine - 5 students - 99 pts, 98 pts, 97 pts, 98 pts, and 99 pts. Give 2 pts for legacy to the 97, and he gets in over the 98s. The difference - pre legacy - was like a 3.7 GPA vs 3.65 GPA. Because there is no real differentiation - the few pts - becomes a significant differentiator.

This is my demographic - my friends kids - legacies - didn’t get in with Dad contributing every year, and junior with 2200 SAT, 3.8GPA, 3 sports, Captain, and band leader.

There are always a few kids who get in because Grandpa’s name is on a building - but these are small numbers.

As far as Harvard and Obama - he got in for two reasons - 1.) Black, and 2.) some connections somewhere - he didn’t just wander into that Ayers relationship. He probably needed both.


52 posted on 01/17/2012 9:44:52 AM PST by Eldon Tyrell (question,.)
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To: muawiyah

You somehow think if your parents, grand parents and g. grandparents went to Harvard you will be accepted? LOL I know a lot of folks who wish that were the case.


60 posted on 01/17/2012 10:38:14 AM PST by ladyjane
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