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Posted on 01/19/2012 7:18:48 AM PST by blam
( This Barna study measured youth from highly active evangelical homes. It is likely that the stats are even worse for other Christian denominations or less active Christians.)
Surely, I agree that we must take a multi-pronged approach, but a **major** part of the battle must be closing down every government owned and run K-12 school in this nation. All of them are godless and all of them are socialist. We must work to see that every child in our nation has access to a non-Prussian style, private, conservative, and Judeo/Christian based education.
Changing the culture will not necessarily mean that that our nation's system of socialist schooling will be less godless or less socialist. Simply by attending children must think and reason godlessly just to cooperate in the classroom. How could it be otherwise?
Personally, I believe that our nation's godless socialist K-12 schools are such a threat to our continuing freedom that I will not have a government school teacher for a friend. They are, in my opinion, too evil, too stupid, too much of a Useful Idiot, or they hold more tightly to their government paycheck than to their Christian/conservative principles for me to have them for a friend.
Personally,...I am done with government teachers. They are out of my life.
“If it were entirely the culture and not schooling then why do 95% of homeschoolers remain faithful in their church 2 years after graduating from high school? Why is it that 85% of government schooled children leave the faith?”
Because you’re removing all variables when you look at it, and deciding public school is the single causative factor. I would suggest that home school kids get less “culture”. Less TV, less questionable movies, and supervised internet access.
I went to public school, I haven’t left the faith.
The problem with public schools is those with the financial means, or the interest abandoned the public schools for home school, or parochial schools. We conservatives allowed the liberals to fill the void in public schools. We tended to our own while the liberals tended to everyone else.
Abandoning public schools was a catastrophe. As we are now beginning to notice, there are more of them, then there are of us.
What I was reading was that this translation to “do penance” was where the RCC went awry into the “works based salvation” realm that is the essence of every other religion, save Christianity, on the earth.
That’s kind of like the “breast-fed kids are healthier/smarter” study that was done.
It’s a correlation. Breast fed kids are paid more attention to by their parents, and the parents would be more concerned with the child’s health than the control group.
With the homeschooling & keeping the faith correlation, same deal - parents who care enough to shelter their kids from the secular indoctrination centers are also more likely to keep “the world” out of their homes in other ways as well. No TV, for one.
“That’s kind of like the “breast-fed kids are healthier/smarter” study that was done.”
You need critical thinking to see the whole picture.
Too bad they don’t teach it anymore.
That is an alarming thought. The only things that I see different is that we have an armed citizenry and that many of us know to watch the UK and see what's coming.
I know....if it were only 13 you’d have an explanation....
THAT is alarming.
A LOT of versions say *Do not kill*, instead of *Do not murder*.
http://bible.cc/exodus/20-13.htm
Good point
I would suggest that you don't know what you're talking about.
My homeschooled kids got plenty of exposure to popular culture. The difference was that I was able to defuse it by talking to them. They didn't need deprogramming every day after 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 9-10 months out of the year locked in a public education institution which they weren't permitted to leave without my permission.
Education in public schools is by default secular and godless. They are taught to think that way. Those who come out "OK" are in the vast minority.
Ping!
Actually, the health benefits of breastfeeding do insure a healthier child.
You need critical thinking to see the whole picture. Too bad they don’t teach it anymore.
That's what happens with the public education you're touting.
Many more states here: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html
Also good reads relative to this:
http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.info/Education_in_the_United_States
http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/CauseEffect.html
There is no unity within Catholicism. Catholics are in no position to point fingers.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2678253/posts?page=357#357
rogator: “In a manner of speaking it is correct.
Catholics look on diocesan bishops (Catholic and Orthodox) as the successors of the apostles who founded the particular church of their locale. In this manner a person could be a member of the Church of Corinth, Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Tucson or Pittsburgh.
Those of us who prefer Roman Catholic (actually Latin Catholic) are emphasizing our connection with the Roman Pontiff rather than the (e.g.) Maronite or the Melkite Patriarch.
Emphasizing the connection with the particular church rather than the Roman Church is IME common among very liberal Catholics and liberal bishops, many of whom actually see Roman Catholic as a derogatory term.”
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Not to mention the different flavors of Catholicism such as.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sect
Sects
Roman Catholic sects
“There are many groups outside the Roman Catholic Church which are regarded as Catholic sects, such as the Community of the Lady of All Nations, the Palmarian Catholic Church, the Philippine Independent Church, the Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church, the Free Catholic Church, the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God, and others.
The Sodalitium Christianae Vitae started in Lima, Peru, has multiple cases of psychological abuses experienced by youth that were attracted to the movement.[16]”
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There is also Russian orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Ukrainian Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Coptic (Egyptian) to name a few more.
They most certainly do not adhere to the doctrinal position established by Rome on a number of fronts which many FRoman Catholics consider critical to Catholic faith.
Even within the Rome rite, there is the factions divided into pre and post Vatican II.
you tube by Jonathan Cahn
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Just read it this morning, as a matter of fact.
“I would suggest that you don’t know what you’re talking about.”
I wonder if they teach manners at public school? Because if you’re responsible for teaching your kids manners, you may want to consider public school for them.
And variables, they may need some assistance there. I didn’t present what I claimed to be an exhaustive list of variables, I simply enumerated a few. You supervising your children’s consumption of popular culture is a huge mitigating factor that one can assume doesn’t happen for a majority of public school students.
But, you have your mind made up, public schools are evil, and produce nothing but godless morons. Don’t allow me to get in the way of your reality.
I'll give you one example: a lot of people died in Salem at the hands of God-fearing people because of a mistranslation. According to the footnotes in the Bible provided to me by the Church of my youth, the phrase "suffer not a witch to live" is less than correct. According to that Bible, in the footnotes, the more accurate translation of the phrase is "suffer not a poisoner to live."
http://www.hollowhill.com/fun/halloween/witch-bible.htm
This is still in hot dispute, based on what I learned in college courses of comparative religions, so you can't take the link above as gospel. But, in my gut, I believe the quote as originally published is wrong. The second possibility fits better with my perception of Christianity.
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Nah...Protestant Bibles contain more than 5% error, compared to the Catholic Bible they watered down. When you add to that, the notion that the Holy Spirit reveals different interpretations, to each of us individually, the compounded error rate is astounding. Your remarks are broad, yet the claim implicit behind them is a fundamental issue , and i think a few questions are in order. |
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