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How Will The Shocking Decline Of Christianity In America Affect The Future Of This Nation?
The American Dreamw ^ | 1-19-2012

Posted on 01/19/2012 7:18:48 AM PST by blam

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To: caww

Thanks be to God.


161 posted on 01/23/2012 6:00:27 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: blam
Lots of stats on that:

REVEALING STATISTICS (or, Present Costs of the War Against God)

162 posted on 04/02/2012 4:22:21 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: G Larry
Christ meant precisely what is written here: Matt 16:18-19 “And I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

Moses changed his successor's name to Yah'shua when he changed it from Hoshea.

Numbers 13:16 When Moses changed Hoshea(salvation) Name
to Yah'shua(Joshua = YHvH is my salvation) or Jesus in English.

I published this study on FreeRepublic about the "Rock" over eight years ago.

Do the writings of the "church fathers" trump or impugn the Holy Word of G-d ?

Matthew. 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church,

One method of Hermeneutical understanding of Matthew 16:18
is to do a word study of all the scriptures which were then known
as the Holy Word of G-d when Yah'shua spoke these words.

This will allow one to understand that all of the Holy Word of G-d
was inspired by YHvH; the whole counsel of G-d.

The only conclusion that one can come to unless you are
predisposed to believe in man's tradition over the Holy Word of G-d
is that Yah'shua was speaking of himself as the "Rock "
e.g.



Genesis 49:24 But his bow remained steady, his strong arms stayed
[Or archers will attack...will shoot...will remain...will stay] supple,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,

Deuteronomy 32:3 I will proclaim the name of YHvH. Oh, praise the greatness of our God!

Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock , his works are perfect, and all his ways are
just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.

Deuteronomy 32:15 ..... He abandoned the God who made him and rejected the Rock his Saviour.

Deuteronomy 32:30 How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten
thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless
YHvH had given them up?

Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not like our Rock , as even our enemies concede

Deuteronomy 32:32 Their vine comes from the vine of Sodom and from the fields of Gomorrah.
Their grapes are filled with poison, and their clusters with bitterness.

1 Samuel 2:2 "There is no-one holy [Or no Holy One] like YHvH;
there is no-one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.

2 Samuel 22:2 He said: "YHvH is my Rock , my fortress and my deliverer;

2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my Rock , in whom I take refuge, my shield and the
horn [Horn here symbolises strength.] of my salvation.
He is my stronghold, my refuge and my saviour — from violent men you save me.

2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God besides YHvH? And who is the Rock except our God?

2 Samuel 22:47 "YHvH lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God, the Rock , my Saviour!

2 Samuel 23:3 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me:
'When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,

Psalm 18:31 For who is God besides YHvH? And who is the Rock except our God?

Psalm 18:46 YHvH lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God my Saviour!

Psalm 19:14 May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.

Psalm 42:9 I say to God my Rock , "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?"

Psalm 78:35 They remembered that God was their Rock , that God Most High was their Redeemer.

Psalm 89:26 He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Saviour.'

Psalm 92:15 ..... "YHvH is upright; he is my Rock , and there is no wickedness in him."

Psalm 95:1 Come, let us sing for joy to YHvH; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.

Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH my Rock , who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.

Habakkuk 1:12 Oh YHvH, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy
One, we will not die. Oh YHvH, you have appointed them to
execute judgment; O Rock , you have ordained them to punish.

Peter himself refers to Yah'shua as the "rock" in
1 Peter 2:1-10
NAsbU 1 Peter 2:
1 Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,

2 like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,

3 if you have tasted the kindness of YHvH.

4 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God,

5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

6 For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone,
AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."

7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED,
THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"

8 and, "A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE"; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word,
and to this doom they were also appointed.

9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God's OWN POSSESSION,
so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

10 for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY,
but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.

It is patently clear from the Holy Word of G-d
that the NAME "Rock" is a NAME that describes YHvH,
the creator of the universe.

To assign YHvH's NAME to a mere mortal,
a created being, seeks to impugn and
deny the Holy Word of G-d.

It also grieves the Holy Spirit.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

163 posted on 06/28/2012 8:57:54 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: metmom

Good question. I recommend that you purchase or download the book ‘The Harbinger’ on either your Kindle or Nook. It is not a long book, but riveting. In a semi-narrative form, it correlates the downfall of biblical Israel with contemporary post-9/11 America in a very compelling way. Am I allowed to recommend a produce, in this case as book, on our blog?


164 posted on 07/22/2012 6:00:44 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: ArmyTeach

I am reading it now. I recommend it.


165 posted on 07/22/2012 6:13:44 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: blam; verga
Take your children out of the public school cesspools.
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Why don't other conservatives share my urgency? Yes, indeed, GET THE CHILDREN OUT OF THE GODLESS GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS!

Yes, I am shouting!

85% of children from strongly evangelical families leave their faith within 2 years of graduating from their godless government high school.

In contrast, 95% of homeschoolers remain active in their faith 2 years after graduating.

Is a “duh” needed here. Conservatives! Please join me in the effort to CLOSE DOWN the government schools. Remove your children. Government schools are godless and have **NEVER** been religiously neutral. They have **always** been a socialist-entitlment. Neither can be reformed because it it intrinsic to the system. The government schools must be abolished!

166 posted on 07/22/2012 6:24:19 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: brownsfan

It’s the culture.
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Who educated those who are masters of the culture?


167 posted on 07/22/2012 6:25:34 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

I agree wholeheartedly with you!

It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise conservative people would support single payer, socialized schooling. Why would anyone turn their children over to bureaucrats to be educated?

We are up against a situation where people don’t want to give up having their lifestyles subsidized. Nobody wants to give up their own government handout. The socialized schooling industry is one of the nation’s biggest entitlement programs. It is bigger than Social Security.

We were discussing this at a party a month or so ago and two guys argued that they were paying dearly for the government schools, not getting a handout. I pointed out that one guy has 2 kids in the government schools and the other guy has 4 kids in the government schools. The schools in that town spend over $12 thousand dollars a year per pupil. I pointed out that neither man paid $12,000 a year in school tax, so other people were subsidizing their lifestyles by the difference between the amount of school tax they pay and the amount the government spends “educating” their kids. They weren’t happy to hear the truth and had no rational retort.


168 posted on 07/22/2012 7:12:14 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Steamburg

Public schools are only valid so long as the school reflects the moral values of the community.
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Please think about this.

Why should Christians be forced to support government schools that are Muslim, atheist, or Mormon in their worldview simply because they are the Christian minority in their town or county? Hm?

Fundamentally, government schooling is socialist schooling and always has been. It has never been religiously neutral because a religiously neutral education is impossible. A voting mob of neighbors should never be in the position to **force** others support government schooling that is a socialist-entitlement and never was, or can be, religiously neutral.


169 posted on 07/22/2012 7:15:07 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: savagesusie
.....Prior to that QUOTES of the Bible were memorized by children. God and Our Lord and Jesus were IN THE CURRICULA....
....but we could stop it if everyone took control of their own children and grandchildren....
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Re: Government schooling of the past

But....Even this was a lukewarm and generic Protestantism that nodded to God on occasion.

Fundamentally... Even in the best of times government socialist-entitlement schooling has never been more than lukewarm and generic in its religious worldview. What does Christ do with the lukewarm? He spits them out of His mouth!

Re: Putting a stop to it!

And...You are completely correct. Conservatives could stop this in an instant if they really wanted to do so. Personally, I think God will hold Christians far more culpable than the liberal atheists. Conservative Christians should know better. If they **really**really** really** wanted they could put a complete end to the following within the year:

1) Abortion
2) Remove their kids from the government socialist-entitlement schools and completely SHUT THEM DOWN, raze the buildings, dig up the foundations, and salt the earth upon which these godless cesspools of immorality stood.

170 posted on 07/22/2012 7:34:04 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: metmom; brownsfan
Education in public schools is by default secular and godless. They are taught to think that way.
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Children **will** think and reason godlessly. They **must** just to cooperate in the godless classroom, read the godless textbooks, and do their godless homework. How could it be otherwise?

Given the time spent on the bus, in the company of other children, and the godless homework assignments, it adds up to nearly all of the child's waking day. Parents really have precious little time to undo the indoctrination.

If the parents really attempt to deprogram they might just as well homeschool. Deprogramming, if done correctly, is actually **more** work and **more** time consuming that just homeschooling correctly from the start.

171 posted on 07/22/2012 7:59:23 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: ArmyTeach

Thanks. I’ll look into it.


172 posted on 07/22/2012 9:13:41 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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