Posted on 01/20/2012 8:49:22 AM PST by Jay777
One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”
- Rick Santorum
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The small government conservatives were driven out of the race early but as things stand now I’ll take santorum.
Newt is portrayed as a small government conservative but his solutions all seem to include government/taxpayer dollars. He says he will abolish the EPA but wants to replace it with an Environmental Solutions Agency which will “incentivze” energy and things like flex fuel vehicles. If they need incentives to survive, they’re free market failures.
He says he will defund planned Parenthood and give the money to adoption services. I don’t want to fund planned parenthood but I don’t want to be forced to fund adoption either What’s next? Are we going to defund the department of education and give the money to private schools?
To me, small government means leaving more money in the private sector, not taxpayer funding of things I like.
Well, in that case i guess i am not a traditional conservative. i have said Rick Perry Bauchman, or Herman Cain all along and still say it.
This was the theme of his book. I had thought he had put it away for the campaign as it totally alienates the libertarian (small l) Republicans but I guess he must see some loss of his core base must be moving to Newt and thinks that this will somehow slow the flow.
“a traditional conservative option, but the things he says in this spell big government”
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seems like all kinda folks wanna clim aboard the “con” bandwagon...like i say, all kinda folks...
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Semper Watching!
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If you believe prostitution, polygamy, gay marriage, abortion, and drug use should be legal, then you agree with the libertarians.
If you disagree with any of that, then you agree with Santorum - to some degree.
His argument here rejects the libertarian philosophy but does not specifiy his position in the other direction.
I have been hard on Newton(and obviously ROmney) so I better say that Ricky Santorum is a socialist pure and simple. he believes and votes for government in the trillions.
We need to find someone outside of Washington, outside of politics and we need to get them to run. THERE IS STILL TIME.
If these four are our choices then what is the point of the GOP??? Our bench is 25 million deep. Lets go find a statesman Patriot.
Well, in that case i guess i am not a traditional conservative. i have said Rick Perry, Bachman, or Herman Cain all along and still say it.
Maybe that looks a little better with the coma.
I don’t have to believe that prostitution should be legal to believe that the Federal level should have no say in that...just as they don’t. It is legal in Nevada and each state has made their own decision on that issue.
You don’t have to be full on libertarian to believe in small government and federalism. I believe in states rights.
He wanted to see that expression on their face when the law was 'splained to them...
Didn't get a source, or recall the guest, sorry.
This is an old clip that has been repeatedly recycled. Out of context it makes Santorum sound like he's ready to send SWAT teams into your bedroom. He's not as limited-government as I would like but the implication of the clip out of context is preposterous.
Santorum is right.
There’s a segment of society throughout human history that thinks they need to force their will upon the public. Rick Santorum belongs to this segment of the population (all politicians today do, or no less than 999/1000). The idea that you can force someone to do what you think is right is inherently evil. I believe it was summed up most simply by:
“And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”
In Jesus’ example, both people have an issue. But the one that’s going to “help” has the bigger issue, I submit it’s precisely because he’s too worried about regulating the actions of others. Typical Pharisitical behavior. Rick Santorum blows his own trumpet so much, he fails to realize why he’s wrong. Our nation is founded upon freedom. Not forcedom. He want’s forcedom, and that’s why the population at large will never support him. His own nephew summed it up in a tidy fashion: “He doesn’t think that freedom works.”
Rick Santorum appears to be a traditional Republican in that he really does not mind big, bloated government at all so long as it does what HE wants it to do.
“but does not specifiy his position in the other direction”
No he is pretty clear he supports big government entitlements.
That's neither here nor there. The comment isn't about state vs federal - though there are certainly some federal applications, like human smuggling of sex workers.
Libertarians believe it should be legal at any level. Santorum rejects that view.
You, and I, and most people, agree with Santorum.
“There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”
Rick, I think it was called “Revolutionary America” circa 1776, or so. It gave birth to a country called the United States.
So big, intrusive government is a GOOD thing?
Great Post.
“The small government conservatives were driven out of the race early but as things stand now I’ll take santorum.”
Seconded.
“Newt is portrayed as a small government conservative but his solutions all seem to include government/taxpayer dollars.”
Yep. Newt doesn’t talk much about cutting government. When he does, he’s not clear and says things like “Lean Six Sigma”, whatever that means (and I do know at least two different versions of LSS). He talks a lot about growing the economy and that’s good but not good enough. Our growth rate would have to be better than China’s to grow our way out of this deficit.
We need to cut and cut a lot from everything the government does.
This is exactly why I am not going to vote for Newt. He is hedging his bets on his Manmade Global Warming fiasco. He has "repented" of his couch time, but his plans don't reflect that repentance.
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