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Posted on 01/20/2012 9:40:04 AM PST by TBBT
Gallup chief: Romney support 'collapsing'
At this point, there aren’t enough sharks in the ocean for beck to jump over.
I don’t want any of those liberals
I certainly hope so!
Who cares what Beck says. Not relevant.
That is the Change I’ve been Hoping for!
That's where a record comes in. Not just the record of votes, which is often a meaningless toll of positions taken for political reasons on bills that were always going to pass or were never going to pass, but a record of actions taken that actually mattered.
A record of actions taken that actually mattered. Newt is the man who fits that description to a "T".
He can identify what is most important to the country, develop a plan to overcome that challenge, articulate the the merits of overcoming the challenge and why the plan will work.
I hadn't been for Gingrich initially and spent plenty of energy excoriating him, these last several years, for any number of sins he committed against the Republican/Conservative ideals. He seemed a turncoat of sorts, particularly when he babysat Pelosi on the couch.
On reflection, Newt is an attention whore seeking relevancy for his ideas and I guess I take him at his word that he made a few mistakes in his life and he has at least some regret for those decisions. God knows I am no angel and so I have to reflect on the man's ability to get things done.
Newt gave us the Republican majority, the Contract with America and completed 2/3rds of his agenda while in office.
He now has a new plan for America and with what is likely to become a Congressional Super Majority and a Senate Majority, if not Super Majority, I believe he will absolutely accomplish his agenda.
Say goodbye to ObamaCare the single biggest scam and travesty foisted upon a free people who, by right, ought to have been given the opportunity to read the bill and debate it. Instead, a win at all cost, cheating agenda was developed and it was signed with most people never laying eyes on at least page 2 of this utopian dreck.
Executive Orders Positions:
The following are all within the executive powers to simply order and with the exception of securing the border within one year, they are all easily accomplished with the stroke of a pen and no way to challenge them in the legislature.
Keystone may be challenged in the courts but I think the Executive can order the EPA to approve, under National Security Priorities and it is a National Security issue, as well, a jobs issue.
As President, Newt, could actually have a very busy 1st week or month just on these initiative alone.
1. Eliminate the thirty-nine White House "Czar" positions created during the current administration. The president does not have the authority to appoint bureaucrats to power who are not accountable to the Congress.
2. "Mexico City Policy" of Respect for Life. Reauthorize President Ronald Reagan’s policy – also known as the "Mexico City Policy"— to stop tax payer dollars from being used to fund or promote abortions in foreign countries.
3. Restore conscience clause protections for Healthcare Workers.No American working in a medical environment should be forced to perform any procedure that he or she finds morally or ethically objectionable based on religious teaching. This protection should include, but not be limited to abortion. Existing conscience clause protections need to be strengthened.
4. Respect Each Sovereign Nation’s Choice of its Capital. Each sovereign nation, under international law and custom, may designate its own Capital. Accordingly, the U.S. State Department should be instructed to respect the choice of each sovereign nation and place the American embassy in their Capital. (Israel is the only country the United States discriminates against in this regard. The people of Israel have designated Jerusalem as their capital. Yet the United States retains its embassy in Tel Aviv.)
5. End the Attorney General's Assault on the States. Instruct the Attorney General to withdraw all immigration-related lawsuits against states immediately, including those pending in Arizona and South Carolina. The Obama Administration refuses to enforce federal immigration laws, and instead sues states who are merely trying to enforce the laws that the federal government neglects. The Gingrich Administration will secure the border by Jan. 1, 2014 by any means necessary.
Unleash American Energy by Approving the Keystone XL Pipeline. Instruct the State Department to approve a Presidential Permit immediately for the Keystone XL pipeline, a project that will send 700,000 barrels of oil a day from Great Plains and Southwestern states to Gulf Coast refineries lower staggering energy prices, and create up to 120,000 American jobs.
Now we get into the details of an inclusive agenda that brings the people(you and me), through their representatives, into process. The TEA Party and conservatives are going to have a majority in both houses.
Let’s elect an Executive who will absolutely fulfill the promise of our ideals.
Newt gave us the three most important victories of the 90’s Welfare Reform, Balanced Budget and Reduced Taxes. I hope I don’t need to describe the benefits of those victories. They ought to be obvious to everyone by now.
Lastly, there have been some reports that Newt shouldn’t get all the credit. Really? Then perhaps we marginalize the accomplishments of Washington, Roosevelt, Kennedy and ….wait for it… Reagan.
Do we really want to go down the road with that kind of adolescent sophistry and parsing of what happened?
Newt is the guy who thought of these big things, proposed them and shepherded their implementation?
Newt has once again identified what is important to us now, at this time and described how we can get there with our representative majorities. He has done it before and I declare Newt Gingrich was then and is Now a leader.
We should elect Newt Gingrich to the Presidency of the United States
I actually happen to agre with you. I think Ron Paul has a lot to offer, and he is definitely a strict constructionist. That having been said, you can support the U.S. Constitution and make terrible, and dangerous, choices. I think he’s right in the capacity that the number one threat to national security is our debt. It’s not as pointed and visible as a jihadi (also dangerous), but the debt will crush us even more than a nuke can, if it continues to run rampant.
And while you putting words in my mouth is offensive (re: “Drug user references”), it’s understandable. over 1% of our population is in prison, at time nearing 1.5%. That’s nearly 1 in 60 people. AT ANY GIVEN TIME. Between 1/2 and 1/3 of ALL youths are arrested/detained by the time they reach adulthood. And we have the largest prison population in the entire world. In fact, per capita, we have over 5x the next country, Communist China (we have more in both numbers, and per capita). Most of these political prisoners are a result of the “war on drugs.” (Which should actually be entitled “Failed Prohibition, part 2.”)
I may not agree with Ron Paul on a number of issues, but that doesn’t mean he has nothing to bring to the table. That having been said, having something to bring to the table DOES NOT mean he would make a good president. I don’t think any of the candidates are great, or even good. But I think Newt can have his feet held to the fire, and do an ok job (without getting the debt under control it’s just a matter of a few years anyway). Also, I think that Newt is getting more conservative with age, and I’m seriously starting to question if Dr. Paul is not getting a bit, for lack of a better word, “loopy” with age. I therefore, have decided to support Gingrich (as of Monday) out of the remaining GOP contestents, if the dynamics of the race radically change (ie. someone else jumps in who I would be enthusiastic to support), I make no promises (though that’s very unlikely).
I support Newt too, so something may have been lost in that exchange. And I agree with you on everything you just said.
My distaste for Santorum runs second only to my distaste for Perry, followed by Romney. Santorum is a petulent child who couldn’t even win his own seat in a period in which over 90% of incumbents win. He has NEVER been a factor, even in Iowa. Iowa was a rigged game to shuffle Paul votes over to Santorum and Romney (I watched the Fox News clip, myself). They didn’t go for Romney, but to Santurum, who had always, did in New Hampshire, and is still, even now, in the GOP basement. No one (overall) wants him, no one likes him, and he doesn’t like anyone else, either.
Oh my gosh, Please let Cain be gone forever.
And I don’t like the idea of a brokered convention at all.
Particularly when you mention those two candidates.
We don’t know what the heck would happen at a brokered convention and it might not be good.
We have a decent candidate ... not perfect, but decent.
Let’s support Gingrich and hope he’s the man he could be.
Enjoyed your well written post.
Which 'liberal' do you want, then? If you're a Gingrich supporter, surely you realize he's to the left of the candidates I mentioned. I guess to you he's a far left liberal?
Kudos! Wisdom, clear wisdom in your words.
Sic Semper RINOs
Of course. They want the conservative vote to be sufficiently splintered that Mitt wins.
Gingrich is to the left of Chris Christie???
Pull your head out of your butt. Your brain is starved for oxygen.
Why don't you run that theory by Jim Robinson who has given this full-throated endorsement of Newt Gingrich?
I appreciate the sentiment, but that is just superstition.
The distinction is that Romney's support - most of the support for candidates more than a week or a few days before election day - is weak. Just because people parked with Romney because they figured they could live with him as the nominee, and indicated that preference to pollsters, does not mean they wouldn't change their mind later if a more appealing option presented itself, and it does not mean the polling is fabricated.
Now, some pollsters do a better job digging into the numbers than others. Gallup has a lot of detail beyond their top line numbers, and Rasmussen tracks the intensity of each candidate's support, which tells much more of the real story. Other pollsters just rip off a top line number for a headline.
If Chris Christie were running in the primary I believe JimRob would give him full consideration, as would I. He has decided to support Newt and accentuate his positives, not deny the existence of his weaknesses.
Jdw! Thank you for having a conversation with me on this! Finally a rational debate.
First, I didn’t mean to out words in your mouth exclusively. It’s just that so many times I talk about anything regarding dr. Paul I get flamed about the drug thing. I guess i’ve gotten a bit touchy and that’s not right. Sorry.
Let me see if I can coalesce my thoughts a bit better.
I think that dr. Paul, as you said, understands that the number 1 threat to our country is the debt death spiral we are in. And there is no workble solution in the party platform. Many in the gop are aware of the problem but, where are the solutions. Dr. Paul has some. Ending fiat money and the fed are two of the most prominent.
I’m a non-interventionist myself, but I can see the other side of the national security argument. What I think we might be able to agree on is the the president does not have the authority to lead us into inumerable and unending conflicts.
Also, the purpose of a political party, as opposed to a philosophy, is to take many different points of view and unite them in common purpose. The so called paulbots have legitimate and valid viewpoints. Some of them are workable into the party platform, some are not.
To comepletly invalidate them and marginalize them is incredibly shortsighted polically. Especially when the overwhelming majority of paul supporters are just enerting the political process and forming their political identity.
Santorum has not come across as the kind of fighter that could square off against the Chicago Mob, nor deal with the level of HATE that the Left would throw at the Repub nominee. He's a nice guy, but we need somebody willing to do what's needed to win.
The idea that nobody will be close to enough delegates is pretty likely in my opinion. I don’t see Newt accepting the position as Mitts VP or the other way around.
though not quite the same, some shade of 2008. By July 2007, McCain was left for dead, limpin along.. out of money, consultants jumping ship, Romney full of dough...then what happened ? Myth opened his mouth and McCain started winning primaries. Myth was out by February 2008.
( Wish Cain could have stuck it out a little longer)
maybe some Deja VooDoo all over again.
Newt, hands down.
“He may not be right on everything but to dismiss him entirely is to dismiss the chance to accept into the platform the ideas that will work and get his supporters to come into the fold and vote republican in Nov.”
Sarah Palin said as much also. She said not to dismiss his supporters who are genuine Libertarians. I’m sick of hearing talk show hosts, like nit-wit Todd Schnitt, call Ron Paul supporters degrading, dispicable names, asking them when they took drugs last,.....and even plays with his cuckcoo toy when a Paul supporter calls. Billy Cunningham is disgusting too.You could hear his saliva as he gushed over Cain and disparaged Paul....and Perry. Many of Paul’s supporters are veterans and police officers. I hate it when they are abused verbally. When did it become out of bounds in America to support a candidate? I’ll tell you this, I’m not a Paul supporter but I interact with many college kids. They are high on him and love Rand. They don’t think he’s a kook. They think we’re kooks.
We’ve now reached the pits of insanity in the manner we chose our leaders. It’s probably why we don’t have any since Ronald Reagan. We need a brokered convention. Fight it out on the floor.
I no longer have a horse in the race. By the time the primary date reaches my state, it always over anyway.
FR SLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW is an understatment!!!! My head is about to come off! I could not post at all. Got trapped in TOPICS rejecting EVERY single “topic”! Could not overcome it. Gave up and asked another Freeper to post, Erick’s column at redstate.com on Paul posers at precincts. It is on the forum now under, “The Horserace for January 12”.
When I was in hs in the 90’s my govt. teacher was a former lbj staffer so you can guess what that class was like.
However, he did teach us a lot about the american political process. He taught us that a party, at the convention, would debate the platform that the eeventual candidate would run on. Each topic in the platform was called a “plank”.
The delegates would debate, wrangle and argue, ll week until a platform was voted on a nominee was selected based on a comprimise by the delegates.
Now look what has happend. Only 4%, 4% of the states have voted and we’re being told who the nominee is going to be and what he’ll be running with. All we’re doing is electing a king. The next step down this road is that king taking over complete control.
This so called primary process is un-american and signals the end of representative govt.
Television destroyed the process.
No worries, I’ve seen the “druggie” cop out many many times myself. So, I understand where you’re coming from.
I think you bring up a lot of valid points. I’d like to talk about a few of them. You mentioned having a non interventionist view. I don’t, per se, but I also don’t have a view that our foreign policy is correct either. Here’s my take. I think if we have an alliance or treaty with a country (passed by the Congress, signed by the President), then in that scenario, we should make a term of that agreement that we get some form of compensation. We don’t need to police the world, and certainly not on our taxpayer’s dime. We could take monetary compensation, or we could have accesses to resources etc. There are those in the world who’d hate us and say we’re pillaging their country, but so what? They do that anyway. So I think if we have no interest in a country, we shouldn’t be there. We fought our own revolutionary war, so can other countries.
I agree with changing our monetary policy. Yesterday Gingrich said he had been contemplating a gold backed currency (use a keyword search for “gold” and it’ll come up). It may or may not be political pandering, but at least the dialogue is being elevated.
Lastly, on the topic of the younger voters, it’s important that people understand that the (collective) past two elder generations have screwed their children financially. They’re leaving them with debt past their eyeballs, a decaying military, a police state, and beyond that, a war on any morality. Too many people rolled over for the leftists. Now we’re broke, and the argument is coming down to socialism funded on the backs of the younger generations. Let’s be honest. There is no money. We are spending TRILLIONS in deficit every year. There’s nothing in the social security “fund.” Foreign countries had been subsidizing our debt, but now the Fed is monetizing it.
So on top of all the other issues, a currency crisis is falling into the laps of those born after say, 1975. The bulk of their adult lives is going to be in a country with few freedoms, no sound money, and nation breaking debt. They’re right to be angry. Now they’re being told, “Sit down, and shut up, and don’t you dare touch my social security (that [you’ll] have to pay for).”
This is a huge problem. A generation that wants the next one to labor to pay for their retirment has the audacity to call the de facto slaves “lazy.” No, misguided, maybe (by their leftist teachers, and apathetic parents), but the problem is they want the freedom they’re being denied. The solution isn’t a class warfare, it’s to completely eliminate the socialism, and the strangling rgulation. Don’t make them pay for everything, and everyne can be responsible for their own retirement. And the argument that they paid into the system, can easily be countered by them taking right back out of the system, leaving nothing for the next generation who has also been paying and won’t see a dime. I know it’s not popular among many of the back patters here on FR but the fact is that the youth aren’t protesting because they’re lazy. They’re protesting because no matter how hard they work, only a very select few (those who already had connections), will be able to cut through the red tape and be able to earn their own living (ie. start their own businesses).
Free up the culture, and people like to work. People like to work and to receive greater and greater yields. When people work harder and harder, and get taxed and regulated back down to the bottom, they stop wanting to work. Meanwhile, the ones that make it to the top, lobby to ensure no one else can. THAT is the problem with have in this country right now. And until it’s addressed, people will continue to leave both the Democratic and Republican parties. Both are two heads of the same coin. Look at voting on NDAA et ell. We’re all being sold down the river.
The eventual nominee, Newt, Romney, Santorum, or (God forbid) Paul, will have to pick a woman or minority running mate. The optics of two white guys running against Obama will be too much. Personally, I don't care, but I predict that they will choose Bachman, Cain, Palin, West, or maybe Haley, Jindal, or Rubio. No way will they go up against Obama with two white guys.
The points about the boomers are too true. I’ve them called “the Worst Generation”. Time will tell but it can’t be too far off.
I would like to add that the degradation of the American family and the wholesale slaughter of the unborn have contributed greatly to our decline as well.
NUTS. Chris Christie is a Romney/Obama clone. Enhanced 2.0 version. Way worse than any currently in the running.
Why Give any more ammo to the dems that our guy will have to wade through.
After SC or FL either Newt or Santorum has to go. We need Odummy spending his Billions now not in Oct, Nov
Two horns on his head and he would look like the devil. I don’t like him or trust him. He is evil!
Agreed. We, as a nation didn’t lose our morality because of the leftists, or even solely because of the leftist teachers. It came because parent’s quit caring for their children enough to teach them right from wrong. Government can’t, no matter who is in charge. That’s can only come from the parents. Too many were ready to kill their babies so they wouldn’t hamper their rampant sexual lifestyle.
Now we have single parents and welfare moms. Again, take away the socialism, and problems get solved. Government can’t be the daddy if they’re not given the funds to do it. And men and women would have to actually stay together and take responsibility. We’ve been incentivizing divorce too long. Why have a husband/father, when you can take from Obama’s stash. Simple, they won’t. So the next generation doesn’t value fathers either, and on and on. Then mothers think it’s a badge of honor to “do it on their own” while either getting a vast government subsidy, or never actually being home to parent. Or worse, both. The worst of all scenarios!
Why Give any more ammo to the dems that our guy will have to wade through.
After SC or FL either Newt or Santorum has to go. We need Odummy spending his Billions now not in Oct, Nov
If the candidate is Newt, he’s going to have to pick a woman because he’s so weak with the female demographic. And I think he could lose as much of the base as he’d win by piking a more “Establishment acceptable” woman than Palin.
Santorum would have the same deal, but I don’t think there’s a chance he’s the nominee. Mitt may have to add a minority—and supposedly wants Rubio—to offset the racist Mormon meme inm running against Obama. Cain is just a liability without the substance to argue the nominee’s case. But I agree, overall a woman or Hispanic is highly likely.
It would be crazy IMO and a risk Mitt would never take to pick West as a one-term congressman.
Just read this, good for you.
Romney would be a polite Bush 41 clone, albeit further to the left. If the DemonRats ask for a 10% spending increase, Romney would propose an 8% increase and claim victory. Romney would appoint Souter-like judges with "no litmus test."
Newt is far from perfect, but he had significant conservative accomplishments while Speaker: tax cuts, balanced budget, welfare reform.
With last night's debate, Newt won my vote. I want a president who fights the leftists, be they in Congress or the MSM.
I think Romney’s weaseling about his taxes is hurting him. His answer that he will release them in Apreil (after the primaries) becuase he doesn’t want Obama using them against him in the meantime makes no sense. It sounds like he wants to hide something until after the primaries.
THANKS BE TO GOD for you! I have been at this for HOURS. Got two responses, couldn’t post it in the first place, and freepmailed a dozen posters to take a look at it. NOTHING.
Finally found Katiedidit1 to put it up on the Forum, and she is taking heat for it in my place!
Did that not blow your mind?? I had no idea such dirty tricks have such disastrous potential, and beginning in some districts at our own neighborhood precinct meeting!
The article said that this was going right over the top of our heads. Thank you for reading it.
“FR SLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW is an understatment!!!! My head is about to come off! I could not post at all. Got trapped in TOPICS rejecting EVERY single topic! Could not overcome it. Gave up and asked another Freeper to post, Ericks column at redstate.com on Paul posers at precincts. It is on the forum now under, The Horserace for January 12.”
Thanks, I need to go check that out. Been going nuts here-—I couldn’t post all afternoon! It seems better now, though.
Mitch Daniels is the same guy who denied one of the House districts in his state a prompt special election after a vacancy occurred. No thanks.
Spot on analysis. Perfectly captured what I was thinking.