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Romney’s Coronation: Just Delayed, or Gone Awry?
U Va.Center for Politic's (Sabato's Crystal Ball ) | 01/22/2012 | Larry J. Sabato and Kyle Kondik

Posted on 01/22/2012 5:39:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: ngat
In fact, I think a substantial percentage of Santorum’s voters would switch over to Romney.

How do you figure that? Santorum campaigns as a social conservative. SoCons are going to switch to a Massachusetts pro-gay, pro-abortion, anti-gun RINO?

21 posted on 01/22/2012 6:19:55 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

That’s a ridiculous comment with zero proof.
Rick has attacked Miitens about Romneycare non stop !
He is sticking around because he is guessing that
Newt could self implode at any moment .
Newt has a lot of baggage and Rick knows it .


22 posted on 01/22/2012 6:20:26 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: surroundedbyblue

That is what is circulating. That money is now being thrown to Santorum right not for the intention of assisting Romney against Newt under the appearance of supporting conservative ideas. I hope Senator Santorum has the dignity to refuse to let himself be used that way by the establishment, but we’ll find out.


23 posted on 01/22/2012 6:20:38 AM PST by LiamH
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To: ngat

“I’m not sure that is really true. Would Santorum endorse Gingrich and order his supporters to work for Gingrich as Perry did? I doubt that very much. In fact, I think a substantial percentage of Santorum’s voters would switch over to Romney.”

No, I suspect the people remaining with Santorum are the hard-core pro-lifers. They’ll be upset with having to choose between Romney and Newt...but they know that Newt is much, much, better for their cause.


26 posted on 01/22/2012 6:33:30 AM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: ngat

You have gotten so pathetic and desperate that
Your attacking a candidate ‘s wife old boyfriend from when
She was young lady ?
Let’s stop the smearing of Rick’s wife and kids here !
Its not the DU or Daily Koz hate filled web site here !


27 posted on 01/22/2012 6:34:15 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ngat

RE: over to a sweater-vest-wearing dweeb that campaigns as a social conservative.

Are you implying that Santorum was never a REAL social conservative? Where’s your evidence of that?


28 posted on 01/22/2012 6:34:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ncalburt

Santorum is sticking around because he wants to be POTUS — but he won’t be. And he hasn’t run clean out of money yet — but he will.


29 posted on 01/22/2012 6:34:54 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: ngat

RE: Because the vast majority of Santorum fans in Florida are ladies whose revulsion for Speaker Gingrich outweighs Romney’s pro abortion and pro homosexuality past.

Again, EVIDENCE PLEASE. All we here are allegations from you. Where’s the poll? The interviews? Who did the survey? C’mon, give it to us...


30 posted on 01/22/2012 6:36:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ngat

LOL, that is not what the sc election results showed, Newt won the ladies hands down over Mitt. Actually, he won all the demographics.


31 posted on 01/22/2012 6:39:44 AM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: Lady Lucky

Maybe
But there is plenty of time .
It’s only the third primary !
What is the rush ?
In the past the primaries were very close and
Went on for months .
Only in recent history have these primaries become dull
And over after a. Few weeks !


32 posted on 01/22/2012 6:39:51 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ngat

“And the evasive answer Mitt Romney gave (on taxes) was devastating to him.”

Yea, I called that one when it happened. Either Romney has to say it’s “none of your damn business” and stick with it, or he has to release them immediately, not after he locks up the nomination (just so Obama can use it against him).

The idea of say “wait until April” was the first major mistake of his campaign and he plummeted almost immediately, and he will have a tough time coming back, particularly if Newt has finally figured out what Rush has been screaming for the past two decades, which is that the worst enemy of conservatives is not Obama, nor Romney, nor Paul, nor Stalin (for that matter), no - it’s the media. And once you make it clear that you are the anti-media candidate (i.e., attacking the media, not just complaining about them, or being disappointed in them [as McCain was in 2008 when they went after his personal life in the general election]), then you win.


33 posted on 01/22/2012 6:41:52 AM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Are you implying that Santorum was never a REAL social conservative? Where’s your evidence of that?”

No, I have no evidence of that, and I think Rick Santorum is probably a real nice guy, but please remember, we are talking CAREER LAWYER POLITICIAN whose education and career mirrors Mitt Romney’s except for the Bain Capital part.


34 posted on 01/22/2012 6:46:08 AM PST by ngat
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney was the frontrunner when?

I thought the frontrunner (in terms of nationwide polls) was Bachman, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, then Romney. Romney would have been the prohibitive favorite if he had won S.C. But, in a dynamic, multi-candidate race, things are fluid.

In S.C., Romney never lead the combined vote for the social conservative candidates and, so, was never securely in the lead. Then, with Gingrich’s brilliant performances in Monday’s and Thursday’s debates combined with Romney’s defensiveness on his tax returns and on his record at Bain Capital, Newt emerged as “the” social conservative candidate and Mitt lost a sizable chunk of his support.

In Florida, prior to last week, Romney was about neck and neck with the combined vote for the social conservative candidates. Therefore, if he gets his head out of his butt and puts this tax thing behind him, he would have a real chance of winning the state irrespective of how well Newt consolidates the social conservative side.


35 posted on 01/22/2012 6:53:53 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: BobL

He could have presented his position much better. Our plan is to release my tax returns after I file this year. As to how many years, I’m not saying at this time. We will release them all at once and they will demonstrate how successful I have been in my chosen profession, how I have complied with the law, and how generous I have been in my charitable giving.

In other words, raise the stakes. It’s not just about paying taxes. We know that Obama hadn’t done squat with charitable giving prior to running for president. His church, after all, is the government. Whereas Mormons are tithers.

The Gingrich’s gave $80,000 on $2.5 million. While this is a much greater percent than the Obamas (zero percent); but, it’s a paltry 2 percent. And, this was in the year Newt was a candidate for president and knew he was going to reveal his taxes. I wonder what percent the converted, born again and forgiven Newt gave in his prior years?


36 posted on 01/22/2012 7:06:24 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: ngat

Watch the Santorum acknowledgment speech after the primary vote, you might change your mind. Rick was generous with kind words, calling Newt a “good friend.”

Plus, I believe religion will play a role. Rick’s not Mormon and I think it matters to Rick and Newt!


37 posted on 01/22/2012 7:07:27 AM PST by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: HerrBlucher

You say “The vast majority of santorum fans will go to Newt.”

I agree completely. If Santorum is still in the race when Maryland votes, I’ll be voting for him because of all the remaining candidates, he’s the one I want to be president. But if he drops out before then, I’ll vote for Gingrich.

Last week I was wavering on my vow NEVER to vote for Romney, even if he gets the nomination. I had been planning to write in Palin. But then I started to fall for the “anybody but Obama” meme. And then in the debate, when they asked Romney if he would have signed the NDAA as is, with the provision for the unlimited detention of suspected terrorists, including American citizens, I realized for certain that if he is willing to trash the constitution to give us a false sense of security, then he’ll trash it whenever he thinks it’s in his political best interest to do so.

An American being an “enemy combatant”, as defined in the NDAA, is treason. And treason is the only crime explicitly defined in the constitution, along with the criteria for proving it. It consists of two witnesses testifying in open court to the same overt act.

Here’s Article 3 Section 3 of the Constitution:

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.”

Indefinite detention of an American for being a suspected terrorist, without trial, without Habeas Corpus, and without even any evidence, violates the constitution. Period. If you think such detention is a good idea, then work to change the constitution, don’t just ignore it. And I’ll work my ass off to prevent it.

This provision of the NDAA is so blatantly unconstitutional that only an idiot or a liar cannot see it, and I won’t vote for either.

Being “suspected” of being a terrorist is not the same thing as being a terrorist.


38 posted on 01/22/2012 7:09:58 AM PST by StonyMan451 (As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Askew? and it will remain so.


39 posted on 01/22/2012 7:53:03 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: knarf
>> That is a frightening, but I think you're correct .... thought.<

I don’t believe that. Santorum’s support is overwhelmingly evangelicals. Yesterday it became obvious that Newt took the evangelical vote over Romney by a large margin. I saw no dynamic that would have indicated that Santorum support would go to Romney. I believe it will go to Gingrich as was evidenced yesterday by the decline of both Romney and Santorum and the increase of support for Gingrich.

40 posted on 01/22/2012 8:03:03 AM PST by CynicalBear
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