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To: Utmost Certainty; kabar
That’s why he’s getting ridiculed about it, because apparently he believes self-deportation alone will resolve illegal immigration issues. This is fantastical Obama-style magical thinking.

Okay, before I give you the full exchange from the debate transcript, I'll just mention that "fantasy" is one of Newt's favorite claims to make about the ideas of others. It's a form of belittlement. Okay, here is the exchange between Adam Smith and Mitt Romney:

Moderator

Let's stay on immigration for a second.

Governor Romney, there is one thing I'm confused about. You say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them, but you also say that they would have to go back to their home countries and then apply for citizenship. So, if you don't deport them, how do you send them home?

Mitt Romney

Well, the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal documentation to allow them to work here. And so we're not going to round people up.

The way that we have in this society is to say, look, people who have come here legally would, under my plan, be given a transition period and the opportunity during that transition period to work here, but when that transition period was over, they would no longer have the documentation to allow them to work in this country. At that point, they can decide whether to remain or whether to return home and to apply for legal residency in the United States, get in line with everybody else. And I know people think but that's not fair to those that have come here illegally.

Moderator

Isn't that what we have now? If somebody doesn't feel they have the opportunity in America, they can go back any time they want to.

Mitt Romney

Yes, we'd have a card that indicates who's here illegally. And if people are not able to have a card, and have through an E-Verify system determine that they are here illegally, then they're going to find they can't get work here. And if people don't get work here, they're going to self-deport to a place where they can get work.

Ultimately, with this transition period in place, we would then allow people to get in line at home and to come back to this country after they have reached the front of the line. But I just don't think it's fair to the people who have loved ones waiting in line legally to come to America and say, guess what? We're going to encourage a wave of illegal immigration by giving amnesty of some kind to those who have come here illegally.

Of course, why would Newt or his supporters want to discuss the full context of Romney's comments....

100 posted on 01/26/2012 3:05:17 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Governor Jan Brewer, My Hero!! You Rock!!)
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To: La Enchiladita
From the Washington Times today:

Gingrich opens door for illegal immigrants

"Under close questioning by Univision’s political host, Jorge Ramos, Mr. Gingrich said he would grant quick citizenship rights to illegal immigrants who join the military or to those who have been in the U.S. between 20 and 25 years. He said the rest of the estimated 11 million should be given access to a guest-worker program."

“With most of them? I would urge them to get a guest-worker permit,” he said, calling for a substantial rewrite of immigration laws that would cancel existing penalties and instead let illegal immigrants stay."

"But his campaign said it was unclear whether at the end of that guest-worker period the immigrants would be allowed to stay and gain citizenship, essentially jumping the legal immigration line, or whether they would be required to return home."

One of the sponsors of tonight's debate will be the Hispanic Leadership Network. I suspect plenty of questions on immigration and lots of pandering by all.

101 posted on 01/26/2012 3:23:33 PM PST by kabar
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