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It is time for Sen. Rick Santorum to drop out
Red State ^ | 1-22-2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/25/2012 5:10:13 PM PST by TitansAFC

Sen. Rick Santorum has no viable path to victory and brings no new issues or ideas to the table. He no longer serves a purpose, or has a justification to remain in the race.

Santorum has no viable claim that he is more conservative or more electable than Gingrich. He has no viable claim that he will be better in raising money, in organization, or would do a better job as president. There is simply no path for him. Further — despite winning Iowa, Santorum lost badly in NH and SC, and has no means to complete in FL. It is time for him to leave.

The Santorum campaign probably thought, prior to SC, that it had a chance to win values voters. SC results show that those voters went to Gingrich over Santorum, despite an all-out values attack against Gingrich. SC should have put an end to that thinking. There simply is no path for Santorum.

It is time for him to drop out. Hopefully to support Gingrich. It is best for Santorum to quit while he is in a respectable position. Now is that time.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; familyvalues; fl2012; florida; gingrich; newt; newtgingrich; romney; santorum; santorum2012; values
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To: nuconvert

The kook Ron Paul needs to drop out

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Agreed but I don’t think Paulbots will get behind Newt after the debates. Best hope is that they just smoke a bunch of dope and stay home on primary day. As long as Paul’s in the race, those votes ain’t going to the Mittiot. Paul’s got no chance.


101 posted on 01/25/2012 7:42:21 PM PST by Longdriver
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To: Windflier

People don’t even seem to be able to agree these days, one whether or not Newt “resigned in disgrace”.. or, voluntarily stepped down because of poor Party performance...

I lived through that time.. and, was paying attention...

I recall it as the former.

Newt was cheating on his wife AT THE SAME TIME he was leading the charge against Clinton for the Lewinsky scandal. Ok.. I “GET” the difference... the Clinton scandal was NOT about sex... but, the public at large definitely did NOT “GET” the difference... Newt HAD to step down.... No way he would have be re-elected as Speaker.


102 posted on 01/25/2012 7:47:35 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Figment
Helping Romney would infect Santorum’s career with Syphilis, and rot it off, a fact of which Santorum is very cognizant.

The bedrock of Santorum’s appeal is ending abortion, and endorsing a candidate who has run fund raisers for planned parenthood and who signed into law the prototype for Obamacare would permanently tarnish his credentials in his primary sphere of influence.

He might not endorse anyone if he drops out, but Romney isn't on the menu.

103 posted on 01/25/2012 7:48:49 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Figment
Helping Romney would infect Santorum’s career with Syphilis, and rot it off, a fact of which Santorum is very cognizant.

The bedrock of Santorum’s appeal is ending abortion, and endorsing a candidate who has run fund raisers for planned parenthood and who signed into law the prototype for Obamacare would permanently tarnish his credentials in his primary sphere of influence.

He might not endorse anyone if he drops out, but Romney isn't on the menu.

104 posted on 01/25/2012 7:49:04 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
it confirmed my memory of Newt's record in office... Some of the statements Newt made are IN the Congressional Record. Going to be hard for him to walk away from

Hmm....statements. What about bills that he authored, sponsored, or pushed through? You counting those too, or are you only interested in wayward statements that put him in a bad light?

I really don't think you want to start comparing Gingrich's congressional voting record to Santorum's. Rick will lose that battle, just as surely as he's losing the presidential race.

105 posted on 01/25/2012 7:55:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ought-six
If Mitt sinks like a stone, they don't get a brokered convention.
unlike the democrats, the Rockefeller Republicans do not have super delegates to overrule the voters with.
106 posted on 01/25/2012 7:58:09 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Windflier
I really don't think you want to start comparing Gingrich's congressional voting record to Santorum's. Rick will lose that battle, just as surely as he's losing the presidential race.

Perhaps... but, where does that leave me? Mitt is awful. Newt is extreme and unstable... Paul is a non-starter.

There AIN'T many good options left...

107 posted on 01/25/2012 8:05:49 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

That said... I’d take ANY of these guys over McLame... so, I suppose things are “looking up!” :-)


108 posted on 01/25/2012 8:06:59 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Newt was cheating on his wife AT THE SAME TIME he was leading the charge against Clinton for the Lewinsky scandal.

No one around here has made the claim that Newt's personal life has been as pure as the driven snow. All of us who support him have had to confront the fact that he made mistakes in his personal life, and have had to methodically reason our way through those deal-breaking events.

We've also applied our collective super brain to the issue of Newt's wanderings off the conservative reservation, and have come to the rational conclusion that there is a world of difference between positions and ones actual ACCOMPLISHMENTS while in office.

In case you hadn't noticed, this community spent weeks doing all of this before coalescing around him. Revisiting these arguments now is tedious, and unproductive. We're now at the political strategery phase of this show.

Even lengthy discussions about Rick Santorum and whether or not he should remain in the race, are a waste of time, unless we're talking about what he should do to assist us in taking Romney out of the equation.

109 posted on 01/25/2012 8:12:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TitansAFC

I pray that he leaves the race and throws his complete support behind Newt Gingrich.


110 posted on 01/25/2012 8:13:28 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: TitansAFC

I disagree. Gingrich has a lot of problems even though he currently has the tea party all a twitter. They are hoping he is who he says he is. But what if something deal breaking comes
Out?

Santorum is trustworthy and does actually have good character.

He would make a president that we would not regret havin g voted for. Gingrich might just be using us to fulfill his narcissistic fantasies. I remain concerned. And Santorum is really honing his message at this big table. He is ready and will rise tO the occasion.


111 posted on 01/25/2012 8:22:01 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Perhaps... but, where does that leave me? Mitt is awful. Newt is extreme and unstable... Paul is a non-starter. There AIN'T many good options left...

I don't know what to tell you, Tim. Do what the rest of us have done, and do some due diligence on Newt's life and his record in office. I don't see how you could do that, and not come away thinking that Newt is a more than acceptable standard bearer for patriotic, constitutional conservatives.

This stuff about Newt being "extreme and unstable" is just reverberations of ancient liberal attacks on the man. Stop buying it, because it's just not true.

112 posted on 01/25/2012 8:24:11 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Yaelle

Every election, same crap.

Rick cannot win, he can only ensure Mitt does.

Change the names, and I’ll see you next election cycle - we’ll have this same conversation.

Thanks in advance for Romney.


113 posted on 01/25/2012 8:25:02 PM PST by TitansAFC (Next time, GOP Establishment, back someone who isn't totally despised by the grassroots!)
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To: Parley Baer

I am looking to
Rick to stand above the fray and go after Obama this next debate.

His contrast with mitt is that he is a principled conservative. His contrast with newt is that he’s trustworthy and once nominated we won’t be treated to bimbo descriptions of the candidate’s privates etc. those who worked with Santorum like and respect him. Ok so he won’t get the gay vote. Whatcha gonna do.


114 posted on 01/25/2012 8:28:45 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: TitansAFC

Look for Mondays headline complete with the Newtbump on Tuesday; regardless of who / if Rick chooses to endorse.


115 posted on 01/25/2012 8:56:45 PM PST by bksanders (I think I just had my backslashed on a carriage return)
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To: anglian
Is this what I should take away from the earlier ranking of Santorum?

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"Transcripts tend to make all of us sound disorganized and rambling. But Sen. Santorum's remarks on immigration suggest to me a person who is intensely uncomfortable dealing with the issue. His constant references to his immigrant relatives generally are unhelpful for understanding what he would do on policy and make him sound afraid to set real boundaries on immigration."

"Inside all his debate rambling are some pretty good assurances against big amnesties (legalizations) and little amnesties (benefits and other rewards)."

"But he had good chances to talk about Attrition Through Enforcement, E-Verify and Birthright Citizienship, and chose to change the subject rather than provide us a glimpse at proposed leadership."

"On this day, Santorum's immigration platform is far inferior to that of candidates Romney and Bachmann."

ROY BECK is Founder & CEO of NumbersUSA

116 posted on 01/25/2012 9:28:46 PM PST by roscommon
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To: TitansAFC

agreed, make this a two man race and Romney is done.


117 posted on 01/25/2012 10:08:04 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: TitansAFC

Who would Santorum endorse if he did drop out?

He has been criticizing Gingrich harshly.


118 posted on 01/25/2012 10:11:08 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Got a link to the article he supposedly wrote today trashing Gingrich?


119 posted on 01/25/2012 10:51:04 PM PST by ngat
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To: TitansAFC

Newt just had a reversal for Florida on Intrade.

Will you be asking him to step down if he gets trounced?

Florida Primary (Republican)
Contract Bid Ask Last Vol Chge
FLORIDA.ROMNEY
Mitt Romney to win the 2012 Florida Primary M Trade 72.5 73.9 73.2 29592 +34.2
FLORIDA.GINGRICH
Newt Gingrich to win the 2012 Florida Primary M Trade 23.1 25.3 23.0 26234 -37.3


120 posted on 01/25/2012 10:57:55 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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