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To: SomeCallMeTim

“Let me first say... If you think Rush is making “daily attacks on Newt”, then you must be a paid Newt supporter. I hear at least part of Rush every day... If anything, Rush gives MORE support to Newt than to any other candidate.

No, I am not a paid Gingrich supporter and that lie is the first indication - but that accusation right out of the box makes it clear you are a full-fledged Romneybot. Limbaugh has been in his full subtle attack mode on Gingrich ever since Gingrich became a threat to Romney. Of course Limbaugh can’t go very far, because his audience is conservative and knows Romney is a progressive pretending to be a conservative, so his attacks on Gingrich have to be quite nuanced, deniable, and nearly subliminal. There have been other threads on this topic for days now.

“As for article... it’s a LOT worse for Newt than just saying he was upset that Reagan wasn’t doing MORE to stop communism. Newt was mocking Reagan. He was predicting failure for policies that worked... and, suggested that the Soviets were “superior” to the West in vision. ??WHAT??”

Baloney. The National Review Abrams Attack has also FAILED. Since you claim to be a conservative talk radio listener, Didn’t you just hear Mark Levin’s defense of Gingrich on this very point? Mark Levin was there, part of the Reagan Administration, Mark Levin is a Santorum supporter, and even Levin couldn’t stomach the lie that Romney-supporting National Review article is pushing. If you did not hear Levin’s defense of Gingrich last night on the Abrams false accusations, just go listen to the first hour at marklevinshow.com. and you will learn something.

“The thing that bothers me the MOST about this article is.. it’s yet another example of things Newt has said, on the record, that come back to haunt him. There seems to be an endless supply of these.”

The endless supply of progressive and liberal and anti-Reagan things said and DONE - comes from Romney, not Gingrich. The endless supply YOU are talking about is an endless supply of words taken out of context, and twisted to feed the endless supply of Romney negative advertising dollars. Thanks to the internet, Romney’s lies and garbage attacks are not working.

“Reagan had a tough time fighting Congress... in these examples, Newt was clearly NOT helping.”

Too bad for you I actually read the hack Abrams’ article and noticed how he had selectively lifted even Gingrich’s single words, short phrases, and quotes and strung them together out of context them to paint the false picture of the Gingrich-Reagan relationship.

Perhaps Romney and National Review and the whole Romney-supporting establishment is not as smart as they think they are and the 80% of the party that consists of conservatives are not as dumb as they think we are.


138 posted on 01/27/2012 4:13:59 AM PST by ngat
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To: ngat
Try this as a format for indicating quotations and your replies. It'll make your own comments much easier to follow:
“Reagan had a tough time fighting Congress... in these examples, Newt was clearly NOT helping.”

Too bad for you I actually read the hack Abrams’ article and noticed how he had selectively lifted even Gingrich’s single words, short phrases, and quotes and strung them together out of context them to paint the false picture of the Gingrich-Reagan relationship.

139 posted on 01/27/2012 4:19:29 AM PST by aruanan
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To: ngat
If you did not hear Levin’s defense of Gingrich last night on the Abrams false accusations, just go listen to the first hour at marklevinshow.com. and you will learn something.

Thanks... I will. I like Levin, but seldom ever get to hear his show. The only thing I usually hear is Rush's first hour... then, some Medved or Hugh Hewitt in the evening. I'm a member of RUSH 24, so.. when I'm on the road, I usually catch the rest of Rush's show in the evening.

I haven't seen the other threads here Re: Rush. But, I'm pretty confident in saying Rush is working hard to stay pretty neutral in this primary. I've heard him say plenty of negative things about Romney, and plenty supportive of Newt. Yesterday was no exception. He defended Newt pretty strongly.

The endless supply of progressive and liberal and anti-Reagan things said and DONE - comes from Romney, not Gingrich.

As I posted earlier.... Not matter how troubling the Gingrich quotes are to me (and, they are).. the things Romney is ON VIDEO saying, are far worse. These knocks against Gingrich aren't driving me towards Romney... they are nudging me towards Santorum.. which, is why I was posting on this thread to begin with.

It is rather clear that these are "selected" quotes from Gingrich.. but, there does seem to be quite a few of them. And, I suspect there will be quite a few more.

makes it clear you are a full-fledged Romneybot.

Ok.. THAT made me laugh a little. :-) I suppose, by the standards of this board, I must be a "Romney-bot". I don't like Romney... I wouldn't vote for him in a primary unless it was down to him and Paul... and, even then, I'm not sure. But, I don't fear Romney as the end of the world like most here do.

Frankly.. I don't see THAT much difference between Romney and Newt. To me, they BOTH look like BIG government progressives. Newt even CALLS himself a "progressive"... I take him at his word (even though, mendacity seems to be an issue for him lately)

Newt is definitely more convincing at what he says these days... but, they BOTH are "saying" a lot of what we want to hear. Newt DOES have a record of slowing runaway government spending... but, immediately after he did that, he was shamed from office.. and then, spent the next 10 years lobbying and running around talking about big government ideas like Cap & Trade and government health care. He LIKES the idea of "better, smarter government"... I prefer LESS government.

Newt seems to be able to capture the imagination of the youth of today... with his grandiose rhetoric. That's a good thing. Lord knows, the youth in this country need a big dose of optimism. But, I'm old and jaded... I can't help but think a President Newt will be bad news for CO2 limitation, for immigration reform, and any number of other BIG government, progressive ideas.

141 posted on 01/27/2012 6:31:26 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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