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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate in Jacksonville, FL on CNN 8 P.M. EST
Thursday, January 26, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/26/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by Wolf Blitzer at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville. Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.

Word is the audience will be "allowed" to participate.

Livestream here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012gopprimary; debate; fl2012; gingrich4america; gopdebate; livefladebate; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; patriotgingrich; rinoromney; romney4romney; santorum
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To: tsowellfan

Thanks for the kind words-No prediction made for SC.

I think the pushback from Rush, Michael Reagan, and Palin helped turn the coordinated Drudge attack back. It will be close but I think Newt pulls it out. Keep an eye on Jeb Bush and Rubio. If they stay neutral, Newt wins. If either goes to Romney, Romney takes it.

Be nice to see Santorum and Newt unite.


1,851 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:33 PM PST by icwhatudo (iF)
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To: mylife
I always add small items like that (amazon) if it has Super Saver free shipping.
But only things under three bucks. Heck I'd buy it for the right price just
to put uncle crazy on the shelf.
1,852 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:42 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: RitaOK

We need to hit the boards tonight. Newt was tired of the constant bickering but CNN & Romney wouldn’t let up. Is that how Romney’s going to debate Obama? If so, he’ll be accused of not respecting the President or more to the point, being a whiney little girl.

Not attractive at all.


1,853 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:47 PM PST by Kenny
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To: MissMagnolia

I tried to get into this debate as it is near me.

I was told off the GOP lady that 3,000 seats but only 800 tickets went out.

Now it seems the establishment filled those seats with stooges from the establishment to give the appearance that Romney is more liked that he is


1,854 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:50 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: All

Santorum is the only conservative running now - I thought this was his best debate - he seems to be improving from debate to debate. (BTW, you know you’re coming under serous fire when Tom Delay says you’re not conservative.)

In the post debate comments on CNN, one of the commentators said Romney has a new debate coach. It showed. He kicked Newt’s a$$ relative to expectations going into the debate.


1,855 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:50 PM PST by PAR
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To: BagCamAddict; All

I noticed when Mitt would speak Wolf would give time for applause, but when others would speak he would cut to someone else or a different question.


1,856 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:59 PM PST by paintriot (Newt 2012 & 2016 Thinking long term!)
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To: Just mythoughts

The line has been a joke since the 1990s. He should have stated it differently. Some of you same people who mocked the Clintons saying it now think Newt is a genius for saying the exact same thing.
I’m not criticizing the sentiment...just the expression. Chill out.


1,857 posted on 01/26/2012 7:41:29 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: AnnGora

How about if sanctimonious Santorum use that time to talk POSITIVELY about himself and his agenda, as he was asked, and not yapping about the other candidates?


1,858 posted on 01/26/2012 7:41:56 PM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: Leep
Side ramble here regarding the debate, but....If you heard a Japanese person or a German person who had become an American citizen, or maybe was third generation or fourth generation American with that ethnicity, using the actual, exact German or Japanese pronunciation of names and places, in a major American public forum, why they would be an idiot.

Everyone knows for example "harakiri" or "kamikaze" are pronounced differently in the mother country with the mother tongue than in the USA; same for German, "Berlin" or "Munich" are pronounced quite differently in Germany as opposed to in discourse on American soil, amongst most Americans. This applies to many different backgrounds and ethnicities.

But in this CNN forum tonight from the floor, you hear the same d*mn thing you hear a lot on CNN, NBC, ABC, NPR, or on US college campuses in the class room etc, when it comes to Spanish names. "PuERRRRrrrrrto RRRRRIkkkoh," "ManuELLL OrrrrrrTEga" in the midst of an otherwise perfect English sentence. What's up with THAT? What makes these people so special that they have to shove their language like that in most peoples faces; I think it is a certain superiority. I think it is divisive and insulting and rather unecessary. Speak in American English in a full sentence, or fine, in Cuban or Mexican Spanish in a full sentence, fine, but do not mix the two! (Pet Peeve)

1,859 posted on 01/26/2012 7:42:07 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Hooray for Governor Jan Brewer. Poster girl for American Courage. I love this woman, truly do.)
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To: tsowellfan

All that sorry ass Blitzer wanted was a cat fight between Newt and Willard the liberal. Newt does not look good against someone that has a motor mouth and can say 1,000 words a minute, especially if every other word is an insult.
Blitzer knew exactly what he was doing. Newt should have walked off the stage and said to hell with it, this “debate” is fixed for Romney and he’ll have no part of it. Newt wanted it to be civil and Blitzer and the common son-of-bitch Romney would not let him.


1,860 posted on 01/26/2012 7:42:07 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: billys kid

I tried to get into this debate as it is near me.

I was told off the GOP lady that 3,000 seats but only 800 tickets went out.

Now it seems the establishment filled those seats with stooges from the establishment to give the appearance that Romney is more liked that he is


1,861 posted on 01/26/2012 7:42:25 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: nathanbedford

I also thought Newt got hurt on the Moon Base proposal. Both Santorum, Paul and Romney got in good licks on him for that.

I would not vote for Paul. But he’d be fun to have at the family get togethers. And I do love his son Rand, and think he has a shot of rising higher in politics in years to come. That is one reason I don’t think Ron Paul will go 3rd party. Might hurt Rand’s chances down the road. Rand has a lot of his dad in him, but without the wacky foreign policy. I hope to see Rand running for president some day.


1,862 posted on 01/26/2012 7:43:01 PM PST by gswilder
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To: manc

Amazing how the Hamas Rep made it in to ax a question??


1,863 posted on 01/26/2012 7:43:15 PM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: nathanbedford

Astute and honest analysis, my faith in FR is somewhat restored.


1,864 posted on 01/26/2012 7:43:32 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: PMAS

Many years ago, I lived in some Apts and one of the neighbors was a Mormon.

He left his clothes in the laundry room and someone stole his “magic underwear”

He went WILD! he was pounding on everyone’s door asking about the underwear in a state of panic.

The boy wasn’t right.


1,865 posted on 01/26/2012 7:43:37 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jwalsh07

As a general rule, I don’t watch a lot of television. So often times when she’s watching something else, I’m FReeping. I have headphones on to block out television.

But I will pass on your well wishes. :-)


1,866 posted on 01/26/2012 7:43:41 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: topfile

Wolfe worked hard to stifle Gingrich anytime he seemed to be gaining momentum. It was a joke.


1,867 posted on 01/26/2012 7:43:53 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: AnnGora

He specifically said....His Grandchildren...and named them....which hits at a certain group....


1,868 posted on 01/26/2012 7:44:16 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: newzjunkey

How is comparing your position with the other candidates a negative thing? It’s called RUNNING FOR OFFICE.


1,869 posted on 01/26/2012 7:44:20 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: Toespi

That’s what happens when you let the lib media run the debates. How about have Sarah ask the candidates questions about energy, John Bolton on foreign policy, Scott Walker on turning the economy around, Jan Brewer on immigration & border control, etc. .... get some non-media Conservatives out there to ask the questions


1,870 posted on 01/26/2012 7:44:42 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: MaxMax

I saw it for 7.99 on ebay


1,871 posted on 01/26/2012 7:45:03 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: goodnesswins

Yes. It does do that.


1,872 posted on 01/26/2012 7:45:16 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He explained that, Specter was head of the council that suggested and approved Judges. If he lost their might be a liberal put in his place, and Santorum wanted to make sure conservative judges were nominated. Santorum looks at the BIG picture and what is best for the country. You don’t understand politics, you sometimes have to choose what will have the best long term effect. Like voting for Romney over McCain because Romney might be better. But four years latter you vote against Romney and for someone more conservative.


1,873 posted on 01/26/2012 7:45:32 PM PST by Exton1
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To: Kickass Conservative

yea she wants to become a state with English which is hard to understand and then fly a Puerto Rican flag in front of us and then she spoke in Spanish too.

Like she or the Palestinian guy will ever vote for us and to think my wife and I were not able to get tickets because of the GOP stooges who took them


1,874 posted on 01/26/2012 7:46:11 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: manc

Oh yeah, the audience was totally a Romney audience. Newt, didn’t hit a HR tonight, but even if he would have, you wouldn’t have heard it, in the audience.

Santorum is not dropping out, Gingrich needs something big in the next couple of days...

Sarah Palin, can you hear us now?

We can talk about long Primary, but if Romney wins Florida, it’s all but over except counting up the Delegates. Conservatism needed another big win tonight and we didn’t get it.

I think the saturation of hit pieces on Newt got to him, he seemed deflated to me.

Sarah if you want a conservative President, I suggest you follow your husband and

ENDORSE NEWT GINGRICH ASAP.....FRIDAY !!!


1,875 posted on 01/26/2012 7:46:27 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: sandshark222

My guess is the gop establishment was educated by liberal elitist professors. They are not as conservative as the old dixiecrats. To be honest..we have not had a true conservative since Reagan.


1,876 posted on 01/26/2012 7:46:43 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: goodnesswins

Yes, Florida’s retirees. Newt is a good politician.


1,877 posted on 01/26/2012 7:46:52 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: nathanbedford

Unfortunately (as someone supporting Gingrich) you are spot on in your analysis.

Newt did not have a remarkable night, Santorum was the best he ever been and that only hurts Newt.

Romney scored style points early in the debate on Newt during the immigration questions when the most viewers would be watching.

Personally I found a new level of disgust with Romney as the night went on and was very disappointed in a horribly moderated debate. Very frustrated that Newt was never able to get on issues for any length of time and there was no focus on the failures of Zero.


1,878 posted on 01/26/2012 7:46:52 PM PST by glocker23 (Live Free Or Die)
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To: manc

Something for anyone watching this tonight. Who actually looked president with their answers. The one who was constantly accusing the other of being a crooked politician, or the one that had to be forced to say a bad a thing about the other.

One man was presidential on the stage and his name is
Newt Gingrich. Santorum looked petty and vindictive and Romney looks like a used car salesman that will lie through his teeth to sell the car.


1,879 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:04 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Pravious
Santorum won tonight.

OK, Full disclaimer. Did I want him to win because I happen to support him? YES.

Did I objectively, honestly think he won on the merit of delivery, content, sincerity, fire-in-the-belly, consistency, impact and my general knowledge of debate, as if I were scoring those in university? YES.

Oh and another one, as a side issue.

Am I a proud, contributing FReeper for the last 12 years. YES on that too. ;-)

1,880 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:05 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Hooray for Governor Jan Brewer. Poster girl for American Courage. I love this woman, truly do.)
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To: wombtotomb

really buy ammo :)


1,881 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:16 PM PST by jpsb
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To: AnnGora
The line has been a joke since the 1990s. He should have stated it differently. Some of you same people who mocked the Clintons saying it now think Newt is a genius for saying the exact same thing. I’m not criticizing the sentiment...just the expression. Chill out.

I know from whence the line came, and it was 'it is for the children'. NOT I want to be president to preserve my grand-children's future. I did not say Newt was a genius, I recoiled at your immaturity. A trait a certain presidential candidate has.....

1,882 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:32 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier
Newt gave an excellent answer. I do everything to create a better America for my (grand)children. Agree completely. Here is what I posted earlier today on another thread about that very point, and why I, therefore, support Newt Gingrich. Today was a big game for Rush ...defend Newt ...attack Romney ....defend Romney ....attack Newt ...etc., etc. He even referred to this as a variation of "Operation Chaos," to somehow help get a Republican nominated. Not sure I'm clever enough to follow the argument. I'm reminded of something I learned long ago about telling a joke; if you have to explain the punch line it ain't that funny. For me, what nails this all down is asking why we are fighting this battle? Indeed, I ask that of all my fellow FReepers. Now I'm probably going to sound a little harsh, but here's my take... Rush has no children or grandchildren. That's it. To me, that's the crux of the argument. Rush has a much nicer home and jet than I will ever dream of owning. Heck, I'm 64 and I will probably never even visit a home as nice as his or ride a someone's personally owned jet. I don't begrudge him that. He's earned it, and I wish him well. But I don't think Rush has my deep-down, way down in the gut, concern for my kids and grandkids. That's why I'm in this battle for the soul of America. At 64, I'm probably going to be okay. I put a little away in the 401K and the wife and I have lived within our means for the past 25 years, avoiding spending money we did not have. But my five grandkids are being straddled with debt they cannot hope to pay, and I have literally shed tears for what we are doing to them. So for me, this isn't a fight about "my guy" versus "your guy," or even moderate versus conservative, it's about who is going to stop this madness before it's too late. Romney is a "finger in the wind" politician who will move which ever way the winds blow. I put as much stock in his words as I did (now with hindsight) when George Herbert Walker Bush said, "Read my lips. No new taxes." Newt claims he's doing this because of his two grandchildren. I'm taking him at his word. I do so, because when he talks about his grandchildren, and his concern for the future we are making for them, he sounds just like me. Rush has his cats, and his jet, and golf outings to die for, but at the end of the day he has no compelling reason to look out two or three or four decades. I do. My five grandchildren give me that opportunity every day.

You may be selling Rush a bit short.

He really does not have to work. Either he is there for his ego or because he really cares about the future or some of both.

I vote for some of both.

Rush enjoys begin the leader of the pack but he takes the job very seriously.I think he truly cares about the future of the country.

I know what he does to keep audiences and how good he is at broadcasting and how he can keep a huge audience even when he can't even hear.No one else can do that,none of us are that good.

The guy has been pretty even handed in the election cycle. He has pointed out the good, bad and ugly of most every candidate IMHO.

He is and remains my leader of the New Media and for now I will still follow his lead.

1,883 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:36 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
come to our county , we all speak English, one of the most republican counties in the state and we are a beautiful no crime, Christian , infact first place in this country where the first prayer was ever said. county oh we just voted down property taxes too
1,884 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:36 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: writer33

Lol, sounds remarkably familiar.


1,885 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:42 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Kenny

The general election debates will look nothing like tonight’s because instead of helping him (Romney) the msm will be helping Obama. Romney will have that deer caught in the headlights look in the general debates.


1,886 posted on 01/26/2012 7:47:51 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: icwhatudo
Be nice to see Santorum and Newt unite

Newt's been kind to Paul the last two debates and on Laura Ingraham he mentioned there could possibly be a place for Ron Paul in his administration (at cabinet level I'm sure he means) because he and Paul agree on a lot of things especially about the Fed but certainly not on foreign affairs.

1,887 posted on 01/26/2012 7:48:23 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: All

Mom watching talking heads (I can’t do it) .... just overhheard David Gergen saying Mitt needs to start taking personal responsibility ..... can’t always blame others (like his blind trust manager). Donna Brazile says she suspects she’ll find out tomorrow that Mitt lied tonight about several things. OUCH!! :-)


1,888 posted on 01/26/2012 7:48:27 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yes, sir, agreed. Santorum showed far more passion tonight than in previous debates. It made a total difference.


1,889 posted on 01/26/2012 7:48:27 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Proud2BeRight

I disagree that Romney won the debate. Santorum destroyed him over Oromneycare, the exchange over the Spanish language ad made him look like a lying snake, as did the Reagan exchange. Newt’s performance was forgettable. Santorum did well. Paul is lame. I still can’t beleive he basically bailed Romney out on the healthcare issue. “Their all wrong?”. How was Santorum wrong?

Santorum
Newt
Romney
Paul

Romney has learned a new propaganda technique to sell himself, stack the crowd with Rombots! Have them cheer you no matter what you say! How very Obamanesque!


1,890 posted on 01/26/2012 7:48:34 PM PST by KansasGirl (GO NEWT! NO ROMNEY!)
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To: All

Whoa, Santorum just said on Greta’s show that there’s not much difference between Newt and Romney. Rick, can you use some of the money I donated to you to buy a clue?

Glad I have since put my donations into Newt’s coffers.


1,891 posted on 01/26/2012 7:48:34 PM PST by KJC1
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To: writer33

they are looking to split the vote


1,892 posted on 01/26/2012 7:48:39 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Sarah should come out tell Floridan to vote for Newt.


1,893 posted on 01/26/2012 7:48:39 PM PST by jennychase
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To: icwhatudo

Yeah, that’s one thing that has burned my rump for years. Whether it’s an oncoming ice age or broiling catastrophe, more big government is always the answer. Santorum has never bought into Chicken Little climatic scares, to his credit. Bob


1,894 posted on 01/26/2012 7:49:40 PM PST by alstewartfan (27 of 36 of Romney's judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: caww

This may have been a pivotal evening I am not sure.


1,895 posted on 01/26/2012 7:50:04 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: jwalsh07

As I get older, I find far more things are important than television. :-)


1,896 posted on 01/26/2012 7:50:19 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Lol. Besides Santorum is a Catholic and has no business running for President... oh wait.

Nevermind.


1,897 posted on 01/26/2012 7:50:27 PM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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To: kristinn

once the whiskey fog clears my mind I will comment on tonights’ debate, however it was not a good night.


1,898 posted on 01/26/2012 7:50:27 PM PST by jpsb
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To: gswilder

“Rand has a lot of his dad in him, but without the wacky foreign policy”

Yes he does but he picks and chooses what interviewer to admit it to. He’s almost a carbon copy of the old man.
Rand Paul had to tap dance around most of his libertarian positions or he would have never been elected senator.


1,899 posted on 01/26/2012 7:50:37 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

Rush has many nieces and nephews.....some people who DO have kids I wouldn’t trust to VOTE!


1,900 posted on 01/26/2012 7:50:37 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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