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$2 billion US dollars to Brazil, but the oil will go to China
Quando ^ | 01/26/2012 | Bruce McQuain

Posted on 01/27/2012 5:58:43 AM PST by safetysign

Remember this?

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil’s planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.

The U.S. Export-Import Bank tells us it has issued a "preliminary commitment" letter to Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion and has discussed with Brazil the possibility of increasing that amount. Ex-I’m Bank says it has not decided whether the money will come in the form of a direct loan or loan guarantees. Either way, this corporate foreign aid may strike some readers as odd, given that the U.S. Treasury seems desperate for cash and Petrobras is one of the largest corporations in the Americas.

And this?

“We want to work with you. We want to help with technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely, and, when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers.”

Mr. Obama was saying that while he was drastically slowing down leasing and permitting in the US and whining about “subsides” to US oil corporations. We apparently can subsidize government controlled oil companies in foreign countries, but not here (and I’m not arguing for subsidies here – just pointing out the usual Obama contradiction – kind of like he’s against bailouts, except for Chrysler, GM, Solyndra, etc.)

Well, that little jump-start of ObamaDollars has indeed helped “develop these oil reserves”. And the beneficiary?

Off the coast of Rio de Janeiro — below a mile of water and two miles of shifting rock, sand and salt — is an ultradeep sea of oil that could turn Brazil into the world’s fourth-largest oil producer, behind Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States.

The country’s state-controlled oil company, Petrobras, expects to pump 4.9 million barrels a day from the country’s oil fields by 2020, with 40 percent of that coming from the seabed. One and a half million barrels will be bound for export markets.

The United States wants it, but China is getting it.

Less than a month after President Obama visited Brazil in March to make a pitch for oil, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff was off to Beijing to sign oil contracts with two huge state-owned Chinese companies.

Well done, Mr. Obama.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brazil; china; obama; oil
More change you can berieve in.
1 posted on 01/27/2012 5:58:48 AM PST by safetysign
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To: safetysign

Only wonks like us will know about it.

The populace at large will not be informed.


2 posted on 01/27/2012 6:02:07 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

The populace at large will not be informed.


It’s extremely frustrating how ignorant most people are.

Most simply walk around with their heads up their butts.


3 posted on 01/27/2012 6:06:55 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: safetysign

This is undoubtedly some sort of New World Order scam, at the expense of the American people. And it marks yet another oil goof-up by obama, along with blocking offshore drilling and blocking that pipeline from Canada.

All these “goof-ups” are DELIBERATE, not the result of incompetence!!!!

We’ve got to kick the muslim communist wrecker obama OUT of the White House!!!!


4 posted on 01/27/2012 6:08:50 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Westbrook

Lead story on NBC’s Nightly Snooze...
NOT


5 posted on 01/27/2012 6:11:56 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: unkus

Or they’re hiding their heads in popular culture and sports, because reality is just too awful to face.

Come on, y’all, this is an election year. Look obama and the Dims in the face and do something about them!!!!


6 posted on 01/27/2012 6:12:13 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: safetysign
Its' global redistribution of wealth by this admin..what is so surprising?

You all act like a bunch of Ann Coulter followers who just got punked.

7 posted on 01/27/2012 6:14:13 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: safetysign

All part of the plan. Obama got to drain our treasury for the benefit of another country, not our own, and the commodity is going to a communist country - DOUBLE BONUS!

Here’s a Canadian perspective on the Keystone deal:

Calgary Sun 1/19/12
http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/01/18/keystone-calamity


8 posted on 01/27/2012 6:14:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Honorary Serb
I think George Soros owns a portion of the Brazilian oil.

He would sell it to China at a lesser price than what they could get from the US?

9 posted on 01/27/2012 6:25:03 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: safetysign
The United States wants it, but China is getting it.

The US customers might benefit from that oil, but 0bama wants to keep the US energy poor.

10 posted on 01/27/2012 6:28:43 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: safetysign

If I recall, this is borrowed money from China, soooo, we also get to pay the interest too. NOW, ain’t that special???


11 posted on 01/27/2012 6:31:56 AM PST by PORD (People Of Right & Duty!)
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To: Honorary Serb
All these “goof-ups” are DELIBERATE

Yes. Obama believes our ill-gotten gains should go to help the developing world -- especially countries with avowed Marxist leaders. That's why Canada is snubbed. Too rich and too white.

12 posted on 01/27/2012 6:34:58 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy
I think the "too rich, too white" is maybe just a bonus.

It is ironic, at least, that the US is making moves to send oil to its rising enemy in the east. Strange, too. Counterproductive? Traitorous?

13 posted on 01/27/2012 7:01:21 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: safetysign

Well, it was China’s money in the first place and we get to pay them interest too.


14 posted on 01/27/2012 7:19:23 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Playing devils advocate here if they rely on oil local to us it makes it that much easier to shut down. If they started developing oil supplies closer to home it would be that much more difficult for us to damage them. Much like if they use our military technology it makes it that much easier for us to develop countermeasures to it.

However not a penny of our money should be going to Brazil. Frankly from a long term view they concern me more than the Chinese. If they can fund and develop a South American alliance against us in the next fifty years we’ll have enemies very close by and quite a few in our own borders.


15 posted on 01/27/2012 7:26:03 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: safetysign

Soros owns about $380 million worth of PBR common stock, plus some preferred. PBR has a market cap of $169 billion. That’s .22%. Soros alsos own other energy stocks such as Hess.

Where does 2 billions dollars in tax money actually come from, I don’t get it. When the IRS collects all our money , how do they get $2,000,000,000 to send to Brazil and the millions to all the other countries.
After they dish it all out, what’s actually left for USA.


16 posted on 01/27/2012 7:27:39 AM PST by sunny48
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To: MrB

This should have a post of it’s own!!! Very informative on what our government is doing to us. IMO it’s both parties because our representatives are being to quiet about this.

Figures it’s Canadian news, because our media is CRAP. I have to go to Canada and the UK news agencies to find out what’s happening in my own country.


17 posted on 01/27/2012 7:32:15 AM PST by sunny48
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To: sunny48

some days i want to change my screen name from sunny to pissed off


18 posted on 01/27/2012 7:33:40 AM PST by sunny48
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To: sunny48
Go for it with my blessing.

I'm a "Comment posting Zax", not a "Thread posting Zax"...


19 posted on 01/27/2012 7:36:34 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: safetysign

Oil is a worldwide commodity, the more put on the market the less the demand and the price falls, no matter it’s destination.


20 posted on 01/27/2012 8:01:55 AM PST by big bad easter bunny
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