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Republican establishment gangs up on Newt Gingrich (Bloody Thursday, Drudge...)
Toronto Star ^ | 1/26/12 | Mitch Potter

Posted on 01/27/2012 4:44:48 PM PST by jimbo123

It has no name yet, but something akin to “Operation: Newtralize” is building into an onslaught against Newt Gingrich’s drive for the presidency.

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By late Thursday the conservative blogosphere was in open revolt, with right-wing bloggers aiming their fury at Drudge for what many perceived as an attack coordinated with Team Romney.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; baindirtytricks; bloodythursday; drudge; drudge4romney; romneydirtytricks
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To: Gator113

Tea Party is great. I’ll fight for that! But you nailed it, it is the Establishment Republicans that are our “other” enemy, along with the dimmacrat traitors.


61 posted on 01/27/2012 9:30:23 PM PST by matthew fuller (God bless ALL of our veterans, Navy SEALS, and especially our snipers!)
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To: Fishtalk

“I know his brother DID endorse Santorum but for Rush to mention is was kind of a cowardly way for Rush to do a pseudo-endorse.”

I regard it as the ‘B’ team Limbaugh endorsing the ‘B’ team candidate. Not that any of them are bad or wrong, but they are the ‘B’ team. Silver medal on a good day.


62 posted on 01/27/2012 10:26:32 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Gator113

“My most sincere wish is to see Drudge go broke over this.”

He probably won’t go broke over it, but he has probably Dixie Chicked himself over this.

Just another hooker in the white whores’ prophecy.


63 posted on 01/27/2012 10:41:32 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: goat granny

“Rush’s ego will not let him admit he participated in the bloody thursday ordeal....he made sure all of his listeners heard about all the crap and gossip about newt. The emperor of talk radio has no clothes in this regard. He was disgusting and tried to cover his naked butt but didn’t do a good job of it.”

goat granny, I really would like to drink a few beers with you.


64 posted on 01/27/2012 10:53:56 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144

Thank you for the invitation..You can have your beers and I will have my bourbon, neat. Have tried a beer about every 10 years and it still taste horrible. :O)


65 posted on 01/28/2012 12:12:16 AM PST by goat granny
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To: okie01; true believer forever; Fishtalk; Christie at the beach; Jane Long; sodpoodle; ...

Rush is still backing Mitt Romney and okie1, you are laying the BS on thick, Rush was the second half of Bloody Thursday, he wanted to knock off Newt Gingrich.

When we went to bed Wednesday night, we were all ecstatic about this video which had just been posted here at FR, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec_Nunb6izo and we thought that it would get on Rush and on Drudge and carry Newt over the top, and destroy the vicious attacks on him and Reagan, and put the wind at his back.

Instead this is what we woke up to, and Rush used his shiv with relish, he and Drudge were ready for us.


Back to the audio sound bites. Nancy Reagan in Phoenix, the Goldwater Institute dinner in 1995. Number 26, 27, and 28.
NANCY: The dramatic movement of 1995 is an outgrowth of a much earlier crusade that goes back half a century. Barry Goldwater handed the torch to Ronnie, and in turn Ronnie turned that torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress to keep that dream alive.

RUSH: Ronnie turned the torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress. Nancy Reagan. Now, she obviously didn’t know that Newt had been out there saying, “The era of Reagan was over” in 1988. If she’d-a known that she wouldn’t have said this. Here’s Newt Monday night in Tampa, he’s live on NBC. This is during the debate. Brian Williams said, “Mr. Speaker, you’ve been talking a lot about conservative principles in this campaign so far. Is that enough for you? Is that good enough to get you through here?”

GINGRICH: Look, I don’t want to spend my time commenting on Mitt. I’d like to just tell you that I started — I went to a Goldwater organizing session in 1964. I met with Ronald Reagan for the first time in 1974. I worked with Jack Kemp and Art Laffer and others to develop supply-side economics in the late seventies.

RUSH: Okay. That’s from the debate Monday night. Let’s go back to April 11th, 1988, a Washington news program, Newt Gingrich.

GINGRICH: I think this party in that sense is a very different party than it was, say, from the fights of the years of the Rockefeller/Goldwater process. A period in which, by the way, I was a Rockefeller state chairman in the South.

RUSH: Snerdley can’t believe it. (laughing) Snerdley’s mouth, his chin is on the desktop. (imitating Newt) “I tell you, I went to a Goldwater organizing session in 1964. I met with Reagan for the first time...” Both of these could be true. He could have gone to a Goldwater organizing session in ‘64, didn’t like it, and joined the Rockefeller campaign. But it does sound like back in 1988, I’ll say this — (interruption) Well, you got a debate tonight. It’s obvious they’re clearing the field for Romney. Back in 1988’s Newt’s making it plain he was a Rockefeller Republican. And, by the way, in 1988 that was your ticket to the establishment.

Remember, folks, the Republican establishment never liked Reagan. I know I say this over and over again. He didn’t like Reagan. He was Rockefeller’s state chair in 1968 in the South. In 1968, he was a Rockefeller state chairman, talks about going to a Goldwater meeting in ‘64. Remember, now, in 1988 the establishment was happy. They couldn’t wait to get rid of — in fact, Jeff Lord at American Spectator has written about some of the things that happened when the Bush 41 people showed up and took over the West Wing. They got rid of all the Reagan stuff. I forget the specifics. But in 1988 your ticket to the top of the GOP was to sign up for being a moderate. So at least best you could say maybe Newt was practicing opportunism there.

So that’s that. That’s the Newt stuff. It was kinder, gentler, the Bush 41 kinder, gentler. Thousand points of light. I was number 732, if you remember. I was number 732 of the thousand points of light. I even printed a certificate. I figured out how to use Pagemaker, so I printed my own certificate. I was number 732 out of a thousand points of light.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: You know, every time I mention a blogger, it doesn’t matter what blog site I cite, other bloggers send me e-mails saying they’re phonies, they’re creeps. The hatred in the blogger community is funny. Sometimes I’m hesitant to mention bloggers ‘cause I don’t like getting e-mails, “That blogger, he’s a phony, he’s a thief, that was mine first, everybody steals.” But I’ve got a blog here, guy named Dan Riehl. He claims that the video of Newt bashing Reagan is bogus, this 1988 audio that we played of Newt saying that Reagan’s wrong.

Here’s the little blog post. “There’s a short excerpt of a 1988 C-SPAN video purportedly showing Newt Gingrich bashing Reagan when talking about how Bush, Sr. should run” his campaign, should not run as more Reagan, but do something new. Riehl writes, “As I suspected, it’s edited to give a false impression. What you don’t see is immediately after when Gingrich praises Reaganism and the Reagan platform. If you can’t watch it all, it begins at about 2:30 in to confirm it’s the same segment. It’s the minute or two afterward you also need to hear to understand that Newt wasn’t bashing Reagan at all. He was merely saying, Bush isn’t Reagan and the GOP needs something new to sell.”

So I knew something like this was gonna happen. It’s not really that it’s been doctored, but that it has been selectively chosen from. So I sent it up to Cookie ‘cause I can’t listen to it, I didn’t have the time to listen it. Cookie said, “Look, this thing is an hour long. I’m sure he praises Reagan at some point or another, but I wouldn’t say it’s doctored.” So my expert says it’s not doctored. The blogger says it’s been selectively edited or chosen. So I just wanted to get it out there. I think Cookie is protesting having to listen to an hour of Newt, basically, in order to find — (laughing) — what I asked her to find. He-he-he-he-he-he.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Cookie is defiant. She’s giving me a minute and a half after of the Newt bite and she’s insistent that nobody’s doctored this and nobody’s changed — and I’ve read the transcript, that’s true. Newt still says look, the eighties were great but we gotta look forward, people — people care about the future, da-da-da-da-da. He praises Reagan in the bite, which the first — the — the excerpted bite doesn’t include any of but it doesn’t change the fact that while praising Reaganism, he still says to George Bush, you — you’re wasting your time if you campaign on Reaganism. Nobody wants more of the past. We want to look forward, nothing changes about that. So the — the Cookster was right.

END TRANSCRIPT
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/26/coordinated_avalanche_against_newt_doesn_t


66 posted on 01/28/2012 12:16:28 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: goat granny

Have you tried Bulleit’s? Fine stuff. Neat bourbon eh? Outstanding!


67 posted on 01/28/2012 12:24:38 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144

If I want it smooth, its Basil Hayden’s small batch...if you want a bite and a burn, Wild Turkey 101. Frozen Margaritas are also good...1 and I am OK, 2 and I talk too much, 3 and I am not responsible for what comes out of my mouth, and you drive me home..:O) I have never heard of or seen Bulleit’s. Maybe its local. If I ever spot it I’ll give it a try...


68 posted on 01/28/2012 12:40:51 AM PST by goat granny
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To: ansel12
With all due respect, sir, you are ten pounds of it...in a five pound bag.
69 posted on 01/28/2012 11:40:44 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

Post 66 seems to have made you drop your little huggy, friendly persona you were using when you were spreading your BS.

The truth is a disinfectant.


70 posted on 01/28/2012 11:51:34 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12
Some don't listen, but believe what they hear.

Others listen, but do not hear.

71 posted on 01/28/2012 12:06:37 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

As a 24 year listener, I hear, and I even have the transcripts.

Rush did his dirty work on Thursday, and this is how he rubbed our faces in it, he knew what he was doing, he teased us with the fact that he knew the truth, and then tossed the truth into the trash.

RUSH (on ‘Bloody Thursday’) But I’ve got a blog here, guy named Dan Riehl. He claims that the video of Newt bashing Reagan is bogus, this 1988 audio that we played of Newt saying that Reagan’s wrong.

Here’s the little blog post. “There’s a short excerpt of a 1988 C-SPAN video purportedly showing Newt Gingrich bashing Reagan when talking about how Bush, Sr. should run” his campaign, should not run as more Reagan, but do something new. Riehl writes, “As I suspected, it’s edited to give a false impression. What you don’t see is immediately after when Gingrich praises Reaganism and the Reagan platform. If you can’t watch it all, it begins at about 2:30 in to confirm it’s the same segment. It’s the minute or two afterward you also need to hear to understand that Newt wasn’t bashing Reagan at all. He was merely saying, Bush isn’t Reagan and the GOP needs something new to sell.”

So I knew something like this was gonna happen. It’s not really that it’s been doctored, but that it has been selectively chosen from. So I sent it up to Cookie ‘cause I can’t listen to it, I didn’t have the time to listen it. Cookie said, “Look, this thing is an hour long. I’m sure he praises Reagan at some point or another, but I wouldn’t say it’s doctored.” So my expert says it’s not doctored. The blogger says it’s been selectively edited or chosen. So I just wanted to get it out there. I think Cookie is protesting having to listen to an hour of Newt, basically, in order to find — (laughing) — what I asked her to find. He-he-he-he-he-he.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Cookie is defiant. She’s giving me a minute and a half after of the Newt bite and she’s insistent that nobody’s doctored this and nobody’s changed — and I’ve read the transcript, that’s true. Newt still says look, the eighties were great but we gotta look forward, people — people care about the future, da-da-da-da-da. He praises Reagan in the bite, which the first — the — the excerpted bite doesn’t include any of but it doesn’t change the fact that while praising Reaganism, he still says to George Bush, you — you’re wasting your time if you campaign on Reaganism. Nobody wants more of the past. We want to look forward, nothing changes about that. So the — the Cookster was right.

END TRANSCRIPT


72 posted on 01/28/2012 12:15:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12
You may have listened, but you didn't hear.

And you may have read but, for some reason, insist on misreading.

Point being, you came away from the show with a far different understanding of its content than I did.

To me, it was a straightforward report of what was then breaking news. In retrospect, it was probably timed to present Limbaugh with exactly that problem -- too big to delay, too fresh to research.

At no point did I gather that Limbaugh was doing anything other than reporting developments. I got no vibe whatsoever that he was actually endorsing them.

Friday, after enough time had transpired to adequately research the charges, it was apparent that the smears were anything but spontaneous, but had been orchestrated by the Romney campaign -- which essentially destroys whatever credibility they had. Limbaugh treated them as such -- which should have assuaged your concerns.

Full disclosure: I don't have a candidate yet. I do know, though, that it won't be Romney. And it won't be Paul. But I could vote for Newt.

You are evidently committed to Newt...and took umbrage. That's your privilege. But I honestly don't believe that you are reacting objectively to what was said on either day.

73 posted on 01/28/2012 12:33:46 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

Even during his backpedaling on Friday after the backlash, Rush used the beard of Santorum and his brother’s endorsement of him to play Medved by doing as little as possible to undo any damage that he had inflicted on Newt yet pretend to be backing off Romney some.

After 24 years, I read the man pretty well, and the transcript proves the facts.

I tolerated his endorsing Romney in 2008, but after five years of his determination to see Romney in the White House, Bloody Thursday was overplaying his hand, and it has hurt him permanently.


74 posted on 01/28/2012 1:18:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12
I tolerated his endorsing Romney in 2008, but after five years of his determination to see Romney in the White House, Bloody Thursday was overplaying his hand, and it has hurt him permanently.

As it should. His performance was astonishingly cowardly.

75 posted on 01/28/2012 1:20:12 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: ansel12
RUSH: Cookie is defiant. She’s giving me a minute and a half after of the Newt bite and she’s insistent that nobody’s doctored this and nobody’s changed — and I’ve read the transcript, that’s true. Newt still says look, the eighties were great but we gotta look forward, people — people care about the future, da-da-da-da-da. He praises Reagan in the bite, which the first — the — the excerpted bite doesn’t include any of but it doesn’t change the fact that while praising Reaganism, he still says to George Bush, you — you’re wasting your time if you campaign on Reaganism. Nobody wants more of the past. We want to look forward, nothing changes about that. So the — the Cookster was right.

Total lie. And lying while laughing. I guess the joke's on us, huh Rush? (spit)

Thanks for posting the transcript.

76 posted on 01/28/2012 1:47:21 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: ansel12
I tolerated his endorsing Romney in 2008, but after five years of his determination to see Romney in the White House, Bloody Thursday was overplaying his hand, and it has hurt him permanently.

For whatever reason...you and I have heard the same programs, listened to the same analysis...and come away with 180 degree different judgments.

I don't understand quite why that's the case. But I'll accept it...

77 posted on 01/28/2012 7:38:21 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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