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To: newheart

“Ron Paul is far better situated within the Libertarian party than the so-called Libertarian wing of the Republican Party.”

How would you distinguish those two? Not stirring the pot here. Genuinely curious, as I see a lot of practical overlap between conservative and libertarian ideals. I also think that conservatives by themselves will lose election after election, despite being the largest plurality of the population.


121 posted on 01/31/2012 5:09:16 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Gov. Perry quit for the right reasons, in the right way, at the right time. Thank you, sir.)
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To: Psalm 144
Genuinely curious, as I see a lot of practical overlap between conservative and libertarian ideals.

Fair question. I agree that there is a lot of overlap between conservative and libertarian thought. The kind of conservatism advocated by Paul makes a conscious effort to divorce itself from any faith based justification for its belief in free and unfettered markets. Carried over into social issues it results in a pretty bizarre set of justifications for a laissez-faire approach to abortion, sexual behavior of all kinds, legalization of drugs, etc. It is as if the individual is set free, but without much responsibility except to oneself and to the market.

The Republican party is, IMHO divided among the eastern, establishment (once called the Rockefeller wing) which is fiscally conservative but socially moderate to liberal, followed by another group that is fiscally conservative but socially moderate (but not to the extent of the libertarians) and the values voters who are fiscally and socially conservative although a portion of that group is moderate to liberal on the fiscal side.

While it might be argued that Paul falls loosely in the second category, and I would not object to that, his tendency is simply to disrupt things in the Republican process, and then turn around and endorse the Libertarian candidate. That, as much as anything, tells,me who he is. That's fine, but I think he is dishonest in that regard and ties up a lot of votes that would go to another conservative in the race, in this case almost guaranteeing a Romney nomination.

133 posted on 01/31/2012 8:48:48 PM PST by newheart (What this country needs is a good dose of bran. Attack Muffins Unite!)
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To: Psalm 144
Genuinely curious, as I see a lot of practical overlap between conservative and libertarian ideals.

Fair question. I agree that there is a lot of overlap between conservative and libertarian thought. The kind of conservatism advocated by Paul makes a conscious effort to divorce itself from any faith based justification for its belief in free and unfettered markets. Carried over into social issues it results in a pretty bizarre set of justifications for a laissez-faire approach to abortion, sexual behavior of all kinds, legalization of drugs, etc. It is as if the individual is set free, but without much responsibility except to oneself and to the market.

The Republican party is, IMHO divided among the eastern, establishment (once called the Rockefeller wing) which is fiscally conservative but socially moderate to liberal, followed by another group that is fiscally conservative but socially moderate (but not to the extent of the libertarians) and the values voters who are fiscally and socially conservative although a portion of that group is moderate to liberal on the fiscal side.

While it might be argued that Paul falls loosely in the second category, and I would not object to that, his tendency is simply to disrupt things in the Republican process, and then turn around and endorse the Libertarian candidate. That, as much as anything, tells,me who he is. That's fine, but I think he is dishonest in that regard and ties up a lot of votes that would go to another conservative in the race, in this case almost guaranteeing a Romney nomination.

134 posted on 01/31/2012 8:48:48 PM PST by newheart (What this country needs is a good dose of bran. Attack Muffins Unite!)
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