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WH:'No Constitutional Rights Issue' in Forcing Catholics to Act Against Their Faith (!!!)
CNS News ^ | 01/31/2012 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 01/31/2012 1:30:54 PM PST by Pyro7480

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney says there are no “constitutional rights issues” involved in a regulation issued by the administration that requires all health-care plans in the United States to cover sterilizations and all FDA-approved contraceptives, including those that induce abortions.

Because the Catholic Church holds that sterilization, artificial contraception and abortion are morally wrong and Catholic cannot be involved in them, the regulation--in combination with the Obamacare mandate that all Americans buy health insurance--will force American Catholics to choose between following the federal regulation or following the teachings of their church.

“I don’t believe there are any constitutional rights issues here,” Carney said when asked at today’s White House briefing about the regulation.

“The administration believes that this proposal strikes the appropriate balance between respecting religious beliefs and increasing access to important preventative services,” Carney told reporters....

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Watch the entire exchange at the link. I screamed at the TV when Fox News played part of it earlier this afternoon.
1 posted on 01/31/2012 1:31:06 PM PST by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 01/31/2012 1:33:10 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney says there are no “constitutional rights issues” involved in a regulation issued by the administration that requires all health-care plans in the United States to cover sterilizations and all FDA-approved contraceptives, including those that induce abortions.

You lie!

3 posted on 01/31/2012 1:33:14 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Pyro7480

God will deal with these people harshly.


4 posted on 01/31/2012 1:34:58 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Pyro7480
Quoting Scripture will shortly be considered hate speech and fed prosecuted...

and you can guarantee the army of poofsters will be dropping in on services everywhere with AV equipment...

5 posted on 01/31/2012 1:35:44 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Pyro7480
Here Jay ... let us help you:

The First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


6 posted on 01/31/2012 1:36:41 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Pyro7480

but of course sharia law SHALL be the law of the land.

the supremes need to cram this back up Barry’s fundament.


7 posted on 01/31/2012 1:38:04 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Pyro7480

AntiChrist


8 posted on 01/31/2012 1:38:35 PM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: Pyro7480

> “I don’t believe there are any constitutional rights issues
> here,” Carney said

If I hadn’t become so accustomed to the 0bama administration’s frequent, wanton displays of unmitigated hubris, I might call their hypocrisy, “breathtaking”.

But now, it’s just another blatant, cynical expression of contempt for everything this nation once stood for.


9 posted on 01/31/2012 1:38:35 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Pyro7480

There is no “balance” between the First Amendment’s guarantee of our God-given right to freedom of religion and administrative regulations on health insurance. Individual freedom has absolute priority, and the Church should use a scorched earth approach. No Catholic institution should be permitted to comply with this law without (1) losing their tie to the Church, and (2) all Catholics affiliated with the organization being excommunicated from the Church as well. No Catholic individual may vote for anyone who supported this law or who fails to promise to repeal it without being excommunicated. This is a fundamental on which there can be no compromise. We are facing pure evil, and this is not the time to pretend that liberals are working in good faith, nor can we pretend that this is just one of many issues to consider when voting.


10 posted on 01/31/2012 1:39:46 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Gilbo_3

And it will result in, my prediction, mark my words, in a new or second American revolution to become a reality.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 1:39:54 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

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12 posted on 01/31/2012 1:40:12 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Pyro7480
Carney simply doesn't see the conflict. That's because he's a typically mentally ill Leftwingtard.

We'll need to get everybody together to get a mandate to provide frontal lobotomies on these people. At least they won't be figuring out how to oppress people anymore ~ as I recall it was really effective with that Kennedy woman. Couldn't even tie her shoes anymore.

13 posted on 01/31/2012 1:40:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: boomop1
God will deal with these people harshly.

Soon, I hope.

14 posted on 01/31/2012 1:40:54 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pyro7480

Time for a Law suit based on this statement by the White House.

All Christian denominations should join together in a joint action and hire Jay Sekulow and Tom Fitton and begin the Lords work of defeating these enemies, who have know shown us they are the Anti-Christ.


15 posted on 01/31/2012 1:41:21 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: boomop1

When?


16 posted on 01/31/2012 1:41:53 PM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Biggirl; Pollster1
The timing of this upcoming movie is impeccable:

Cristiada Movie Trailer (HD)

17 posted on 01/31/2012 1:42:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

If this isn’t a violation of the Constitution, then I guess it wouldn’t be a problem to force Muslims to eat pork.


18 posted on 01/31/2012 1:43:34 PM PST by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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To: Biggirl

I bow to only one King...and His name aint bambam...


19 posted on 01/31/2012 1:44:31 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Pyro7480

frigging hell , you don’t have to go through all of the constitution or amendments to find that they are in violation.

It’s on the first one


20 posted on 01/31/2012 1:45:14 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: OPS4
All Christian denominations should join together in a joint action and hire Jay Sekulow and Tom Fitton and begin the Lords work of defeating these enemies, who have know shown us they are the Anti-Christ.

Oh for Pete's sake. Literally! You're gonna fight the Antichrist in Federal Court!? lol.

21 posted on 01/31/2012 1:46:32 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Pyro7480

Blame the Catholic Church. How long have they allowed “Catholic” politicians to support abortion and gay rights issues?

The Church will fold on this if they can figure out a way to increase their power/wealth while doing so.


22 posted on 01/31/2012 1:47:32 PM PST by gruffwolf
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To: Pyro7480
To all Catholics and the Catholic Church:

Tell oboma to shove it by refusing to do what this dictator is trying to dictate.

Resist and push back hard. Do not let this socialist/marxist/communist/fascist/revolutionary/muslim sharia law sympathizer DICTATE his demands.

23 posted on 01/31/2012 1:48:45 PM PST by itssme
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To: Pyro7480

The purpose of the second amendment is to rectify the situation when the purpose of the first amendment becomes unclear to politicians.


24 posted on 01/31/2012 1:49:15 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: gruffwolf

Don’t be so negative/cynical. Maybe this will be the thing that finally causes the situation to change for the better.


25 posted on 01/31/2012 1:49:51 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

WH:'No Constitutional Rights Issue' in Forcing Catholics to Act Against Their Faith

And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon.

26 posted on 01/31/2012 1:50:08 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: Pyro7480
This regulation, along with the Obama Regime's deceitful characterization of it, is an absolute outrage! The Obama Regime is nothing short of Satanic in its pursuit of its Marxist and anti-American agenda. They speak Newspeak, not English. They ignore the trammels of civility, of legal procedure, and of morality. There is no limit to their iniquity. The Catholic Church, along with other traditional Christian denominations, has entered a time of persecution in our beloved American Nation. May God give us the faith, strength and grace to endure it.

Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!
27 posted on 01/31/2012 1:50:57 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Pyro7480

But God help us if we want to say the Lords prayer in school. Or display a nativity scene. Constitutional problems all over that one.


28 posted on 01/31/2012 1:51:01 PM PST by Track9
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To: Pyro7480

A “constitutional right” is anything the American Left says it is.


29 posted on 01/31/2012 1:51:08 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Pyro7480
This regulation, along with the Obama Regime's deceitful characterization of it, is an absolute outrage! The Obama Regime is nothing short of Satanic in its pursuit of its Marxist and anti-American agenda. They speak Newspeak, not English. They ignore the trammels of civility, of legal procedure, and of morality. There is no limit to their iniquity. The Catholic Church, along with other traditional Christian denominations, has entered a time of persecution in our beloved American Nation. May God give us the faith, strength and grace to endure it.

Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!
30 posted on 01/31/2012 1:51:16 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Pyro7480

Impeccable? Eerie is more like it.

I must see this movie.


31 posted on 01/31/2012 1:52:09 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: sam_paine

“Oh for Pete’s sake. Literally! You’re gonna fight the Antichrist in Federal Court!? lol”.
Yes and expose them to all denominations and rally Christians world wide, as is our duty.
We must do Gods will, and defend the Unborn and helpless.


32 posted on 01/31/2012 1:52:45 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: I Hate Obama

Presidents swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies, foreign and domestic. If trying to defeat the Constitution isn’t a breach of promise and grounds for impeachment then I don’t know what is.

What part of “Congress shall make no law” does he not understand ? And if Congress is forbidden to make that law so is he. He is forbidden by oath not to change the Constitution except by Constitutional procedure. Any other way is impeachable.


33 posted on 01/31/2012 1:53:29 PM PST by winged1
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To: Pyro7480
Zero is right in that Congress did not make a law restricting the free exercise of religion. There is no provision in the Constitution forbidding the President to inhibit the free exercise of religion.

Of course, neither does the Constitution enumerate the power for the President to inhibit the free exercise of religion by administrative fiat, but who cares about that? He gets away with the same thing in virtually any other venue all the time!

34 posted on 01/31/2012 1:53:45 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Pyro7480

For later.


35 posted on 01/31/2012 1:54:23 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

GREAT Post! Nailed it!

On to the Supremes!


36 posted on 01/31/2012 1:54:29 PM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Servant of the Cross

Better be careful there! According to Juan Williams, referring to the Constitution is racist!


37 posted on 01/31/2012 1:55:31 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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To: Pyro7480

Ok...I’m done. I do not know about anyone else, but I am done. There will be no more tax dollars to this rogue government. Those tax dollars will be used to support Catholic and religious hospitals that honor Christ’s mission.


38 posted on 01/31/2012 1:57:42 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Pyro7480

Simple. Progressives interpret the First Amendment guarantee as being “freedom from religion”. Other amendments, as well as articles, have similar leftist interpretations.


39 posted on 01/31/2012 1:58:34 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Vaquero
the supremes need to cram this back up Barry’s fundament.

If they do, he will ignore it. And no one appears to have the intestinal fortitude to stop him.

40 posted on 01/31/2012 1:59:28 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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Catholic Ping
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41 posted on 01/31/2012 2:00:19 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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42 posted on 01/31/2012 2:00:35 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Pyro7480
Nobody compels a Catholic organization to offer health insurance, health services/hospitals...nor compels Catholics to work in any environment they don't want to work in.

I agree it is NOT a Constitutional issue.

It's a legislative issue.

43 posted on 01/31/2012 2:00:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MEGoody

Actually, the fool and his boss probably thinks there aren’t any!


44 posted on 01/31/2012 2:00:42 PM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Biggirl

“We will NOT comply!” should become the rallying cry of the next American Revolution. Actually, it will be less of a revolution and more of a fumigation of all those “progressive” cockroaches.


45 posted on 01/31/2012 2:00:53 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Wonder if anyone will ask Romney about this. Will he say “It’s nothing to get angry about!”


46 posted on 01/31/2012 2:01:10 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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To: Pyro7480

Would we expect any less from a White House that doesn’t have a Constitutionally qualified occupant?


47 posted on 01/31/2012 2:01:38 PM PST by null and void (Day 1107 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Pyro7480

Now, about that “Separation of Church and State” thing.


48 posted on 01/31/2012 2:03:13 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: Vaquero

When the left’s behavior appears to be contradictory,
you’re too close to the issue,
and you’re believing what they say their position is on the issue.

Back up, see the bigger picture, realize that they have another agenda.

They are anti-Christians. Simple as that.
Homos and Muslims are on the same side in this fight.


49 posted on 01/31/2012 2:04:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: EBH

Now if we can get another million or so people to stop paying their taxes we will really be getting somewhere. STARVE THE BEAST. Short of an all out revolt this is the best way to get something done. NO MONEY, NO POWER.


50 posted on 01/31/2012 2:05:20 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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