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‘No Fifth Amendment Theater’ in tomorrow’s Holder hearing(gunwalker) [LIVE THREAD]
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 1 February, 2012 | David Codrea

Posted on 02/02/2012 6:06:17 AM PST by marktwain

“There will be no Fifth Amendment Theater tomorrow of the Phoenix US Attorneys being forced to say their ‘I-don't-wannas’ in front of the cameras,” Mike Vanderboegh of Sipsey Street Irregulars files in an exclusive report today from Washington, DC.

There will be only one panel of one -- Eric Holder. This is viewed by many who have been following the investigation as a serious mistake. Said one, "More simple browbeating of Eric Eric Holder without dramatic new evidence to impeach his story is going to look petty, mean and impotent.

Perhaps. After all, House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa has pledged “We are still going to bring him forward” in response to Chief of the Criminal Division in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona Patrick Cunningham’s decision to invoke his right not to self-incriminate after being subpoenaed to testify. And Issa has further demanded Justice stop blocking testimony from Cunningham underling Michael Morrissey. Advertisement

Compound this with a return shot from Committee Democrats attempting to absolve their administration allies, an outraged response from Sen. Chuck Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and yesterday’s stunning, knives-are-out ultimatum by Issa to charge stonewalling Attorney General Eric Holder with contempt of Congress, and it would appear an opportunity to show the American people an ongoing cover-up happening before their eyes may be lost.

And perhaps not. Again, per Vanderboegh:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; cunningham; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; fflivehearing; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; michaelmorrissey; morrissey; obama; patrickcunningham
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To: MestaMachine

A lot of fur was flying starting with Gowdy -— at post 166.

Actually had started a bit before. Holder started to get really testy and whiny.

We have to go back over the testimony. I noticed Holder was parsing the words “Wide Receiver,” “Gunwalker,” and “Fast and Furious.” Congressmen couldn’t follow through as they would have wanted to (damn 5-min limit). Helped that Issa called a timeout to get the memo. IMO, They knew what Holder was doing, but they couldn’t keep up with him to really nail him.

I have to listen to this part of the hearing again to get a better understanding of how Holder thinks he can slip between the cracks with the use of these words.


201 posted on 02/02/2012 9:58:20 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: maggief

Hmmm. Suppose they had tried very hard not to pass any memo that contained reference to both.


202 posted on 02/02/2012 9:59:34 AM PST by cornelis
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To: RabidBartender

Go Mr. Kelly....here’s another one who calls it like it is...laying out how Holder is the incompetent tool that he is.


203 posted on 02/02/2012 10:00:16 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: shooter223

Hang tough, Issa! This is just heating up! :)


204 posted on 02/02/2012 10:00:59 AM PST by LUV W (Unleash the American People!!)
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To: thouworm

Kucinich talking.

Beam me up!


205 posted on 02/02/2012 10:01:15 AM PST by maggief
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To: ZX12R

Munchkin Kookcinich is up.


206 posted on 02/02/2012 10:02:04 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: cornelis

kucinich kissing holders butt!


207 posted on 02/02/2012 10:02:29 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: RabidBartender
My favorite Issa moment was when Holder foolishly tried to convince him all 6 hearings counted as F&F hearings because was asked a F&F question at each.

“Ahhh..okay?” (It was one of those, you had to see it to appreciate it)

208 posted on 02/02/2012 10:02:34 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: LUV W

“I prayed for you” translates into “Make sure you get my name right on the check”.


209 posted on 02/02/2012 10:02:34 AM PST by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Newt loves mine!)
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To: Lucky9teen

Dems are like commercials to me. Fast forward through them when I can cause I’m being manipulated to buy something I have no interest in.


210 posted on 02/02/2012 10:02:48 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

Did Kucinich really just tell Holder that he was praying for him at this mornings prayer breakfast??

He better pray because this slime is going down...


211 posted on 02/02/2012 10:04:15 AM PST by rainee
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To: LUV W

Issa is one of the very few in D.C. that I have any trust in at all. I think he is actually trying to get to the truth.


212 posted on 02/02/2012 10:05:02 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: thouworm

Kucinich: “You must feel like Tom Hanks in the movie Groundhog Day”

Really? Tom Hanks? What a freaking embarassment.


213 posted on 02/02/2012 10:05:40 AM PST by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: thouworm

FYI: Kucinich showing Key Charts 1) Key ATF Personnel; 2: Key DOJ Personnel


214 posted on 02/02/2012 10:05:55 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Kucinich: You must feel like Tom Hanks in “Groundhog Day.”

Idiot, it was Bill Murray.


215 posted on 02/02/2012 10:05:55 AM PST by maggief
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To: rainee
"You must feel like Tom Hanks in the movie Groundhog Day."

He must have starred in the Venutian version of the movie.

216 posted on 02/02/2012 10:06:16 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: RabidBartender

Tom Hanks...LMAO!!!


217 posted on 02/02/2012 10:07:15 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: shooter223

I pray he can and those goons can be taken out and down!


218 posted on 02/02/2012 10:10:28 AM PST by LUV W (Unleash the American People!!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Rep. Labrador biting a chunk out of Holder’s competence.


219 posted on 02/02/2012 10:10:28 AM PST by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: maggief; RabidBartender; rainee

lol; I missed it all. was looking for his charts of the key people in ATF & DOJ.

praying for Holder & Tom Hanks? He’s baby-stepping.


220 posted on 02/02/2012 10:10:39 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Labrador is a good guy. Got under Holder's skin. Has elicited 3 “Oh!” from Holder.

Labrador: why are you already

Moron 1 interrupting as Labrador was on a roll.

221 posted on 02/02/2012 10:11:06 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: thouworm

“praying for Holder & Tom Hanks? He’s baby-stepping.”

I didn’t word that very well...lol


222 posted on 02/02/2012 10:11:46 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Cummings says that they have struck strictly to talking about Fast & Furious.

Why then do I keep hearing the name of George Bush and other people in his administration, who were all gone when Fast & Furious was started?

223 posted on 02/02/2012 10:12:00 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: thouworm

Cummings whining about Labrador staying in context of Fast & Furious, when his buddy Clay was talking about Iran Contra and conspiracies. Hypocrite.


224 posted on 02/02/2012 10:12:13 AM PST by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: Lucky9teen

Did Holder just laugh at someone showing his pattern - did I hear him emit a “Hah!”


225 posted on 02/02/2012 10:12:18 AM PST by Lady Lucky (I like to fire people. I don't care about the poor.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Labrador: why are you already

should be

Labrador: why are you always unprepared.


226 posted on 02/02/2012 10:12:30 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RabidBartender
Holder:


227 posted on 02/02/2012 10:13:00 AM PST by maggief
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Labrador just slammed Holder!


228 posted on 02/02/2012 10:13:32 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: LUV W

Norton trying to stick up for Holder, doesn’t want anyone reminding anyone of the Marc Rich thing as it relates to Holder’s pattern of covering his own fanny.


229 posted on 02/02/2012 10:14:44 AM PST by Lady Lucky (I like to fire people. I don't care about the poor.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Norton saying Issa is limiting her 1st admendment rights. But she respected that.


230 posted on 02/02/2012 10:14:55 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: GlockThe Vote

Norton angry.

Kucinich correcting the record on Tom Hanks.


231 posted on 02/02/2012 10:15:24 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief
Kucinich: You must feel like Tom Hanks in “Groundhog Day.” Idiot, it was Bill Murray.

LOL! He corrected the record! What a circus!
232 posted on 02/02/2012 10:15:33 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: thouworm

Oh my gosh - Kucinich taking ten seconds to correct himself on Bill Murray - LOL!


233 posted on 02/02/2012 10:15:58 AM PST by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: thouworm

Holder: Maybe this is the way you do things in Idaho or whereveryerfrum,...but I treat people with RESPECT.

Chutzpah!


234 posted on 02/02/2012 10:17:13 AM PST by Lady Lucky (I like to fire people. I don't care about the poor.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Well Thank God munchkin corrected the record.

Holder says Miss (yes, he said Miss) Labrador was disgusting. Maybe that is how you do things in Idaho or wherever it is you are from.

Disrespectful, I hold an office deserving of respect.
Fundamentally unfair.

235 posted on 02/02/2012 10:17:29 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: GlockThe Vote

Yep! And Holders people on the Committee continue to protect him! Holder gets to use his filibuster to make a statement!


236 posted on 02/02/2012 10:18:34 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ZX12R

“What a circus!”

You nailed it!

‘Rat Platt talks about civility, really Dems are civil? That’s funny right there!


237 posted on 02/02/2012 10:19:15 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Issa remarked that Bill Murray repeated it 38 times, LOL!


238 posted on 02/02/2012 10:19:24 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Holder: That was one of the worst things I have ever seen in Congress.

I am proud of the work I have done.

I hold an office that is deserving of respect.

Fundamentally unfair. Just not right.

WHINING AGAIN!

Holder has no respect for life or persons, unless it is his or “his people.” He is one arrogant SOB clocked in a thin veneer of polish.


239 posted on 02/02/2012 10:20:20 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Gowdy slamming Holder again!


240 posted on 02/02/2012 10:21:21 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: thouworm

“cloaked in a thin veneer of polish.”


241 posted on 02/02/2012 10:21:45 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: rainee
I don't know if any of you have ever read this or are familiar with this, but check it out.

WH Insider: Pay attention. In a week or so. The hearing. That – we are reaching the-the moment of truth on Holder. What do we got now…almost 60 members – members of Congress calling for his resignation? And that’s just publicly. There are Democrats voicing the same uh…the same suggestion. I’ll say it to you again – you keep asking me about it, every time we talk so one more time for you…Eric Holder will no longer be Attorney General of the United States. That-that is – you’ll see that happen soon now. Very soon.

I'd sure like to know who the WH Insider is and how or if he is involved in this? He's been pretty accurate on things he's shared before and them coming to fruition, so I just wonder how this "Holder" issue is going to shape up, compared to what he claims?
242 posted on 02/02/2012 10:24:10 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Lady Lucky

We need for the country to be reminded...LOUD and clear!


243 posted on 02/02/2012 10:26:36 AM PST by LUV W (Unleash the American People!!)
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To: thouworm

Why is a Shar Pei sitting in Rep Cummings chair?


244 posted on 02/02/2012 10:30:02 AM PST by rainee
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Issa: I thank you for appearing three times in three separate hearings on the subject of Fast and Furious.

Cummings attempts to clean up a portion of the Gowdy/Holder testimony at the end of the hearing.


245 posted on 02/02/2012 10:35:18 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

Not a single one of those Dems was worth a damn... Partisan, ignorant, prevaricating sacks of crap. Every single one of them.


246 posted on 02/02/2012 10:43:26 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: shooter223

Is it over I get a black screen here

http://www.c-span.org/Events/AG-Holder-Testifies-on-DOJs-Response-to-Operation-quotFast-and-Furiousquot/10737427861-1/


247 posted on 02/02/2012 10:56:42 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dead Corpse

I missed it.Did Holder stutter?


248 posted on 02/02/2012 10:57:43 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dead Corpse

“Not a single one of those Dems was worth a damn... Partisan, ignorant, prevaricating sacks of crap. Every single one of them.”

See my post #210

It is stunning that there is not an independent thinker among them-—let alone an intelligent one.


249 posted on 02/02/2012 10:57:55 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I got disconnected on Issa’s streaming website also.

It cut off right before Holder’s “last word” that Issa promised him.


250 posted on 02/02/2012 11:01:44 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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