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He has issues with other people's money.........
1 posted on 02/02/2012 8:20:09 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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He thinks he’s God or government is God then.

If you want to take it in Obama’s context he or government gets to beat you if you aren’t giving enough.

The above is moot anyway, as Jesus isn’t talking about material wealth in this passage.

You can tell what camp Obama’s coming from, distorting Scripture so blatantly to justify tyrannical government taking more and more from whatever demographic of society they are currently demonizing and blaming for the problems they themselves have created. It is as truthful as declaring the statement of King Herod declaring all firstborn boys under 2 be killed, as proof the bible approves abortion or infanticide.

Finally I’d just add that Obama, throwing oyur own liberal objection you always use, keep religion and state separate you clown. You liberals always can’t stand it when we base our morals and living on the Bible, you call us clingers to our bible, and now you have the audacity to quote it, out of context, to further taxing the hell out of us? Asshat.


134 posted on 02/02/2012 10:19:08 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Jesus knows the government is the richest of rich people. Tax cuts are like taxing the very richest of us all.


135 posted on 02/02/2012 10:21:03 AM PST by pallis
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When liberals/socialists start misquoting the Word, I always quote them Ephesians 4:28. It really torpedoes the notion of a welfare state. Nothing is worse than making people dependent on a government and not God.

He who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need.

We are to wrok to have money to give (willingly not confiscated or taxed) and in turn God Blesses (empowers us to prosper) our giving so that we have even more to give. This is how God's economy is supposed to work when people are properly utilizing the Kingdom of God. (Proverbs 19:17, Luke 6:38, Philippians 4:19)

Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. As it is written:

“He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor;

his righteousness endures forever.”

Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. You will be made rich in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God. 2 Corinthians 9:6-11

See also Matthew 6 & Luke 12 where Jesus tells his disciples to seek first the Kingdom of God (God's way of doing things) and He will supply all your needs. Seek God, not government or your fellow taxpayers who will never be capable of being your source.

139 posted on 02/02/2012 11:01:54 AM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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This is the same crap I heard when I was the Vice Commander of the Army-Air Force Center for Low Intensity Conflict. The war in El Salvador was going strong and many leftist, inside and outside of this Country, said, “If Jesus was alive today he’d be carrying an AK-47”.


140 posted on 02/02/2012 11:07:10 AM PST by Portcall24
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>“Avoiding phony religiosity…”<

Look in the mirror fool.


142 posted on 02/02/2012 11:11:26 AM PST by Califreak ("Burnt By The Sun")
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Yeshua was not a believer in the secular government, and by His own words he denied that His mission, any part of it, had any purpose in placing itself - for any purpose - into the hands of secular government.

In Yeshua’s time the secular government’s tax collector was a hated profession, because it took from the people money that they would have spent more wisely, including money they would have given to the religious leaders for charity for the poor (just as it is today).

Yeshua, like Conservatives today, did not see “the society”, and individuals in society, and their obligations to be merciful and charitable, as synonous with “government” of the secular order of things.

When Satan offered Yeshua the power of all the secular governments (”kingdoms”) of the world Yeshua told Satan to take himself “hence” (meaning there, meaning where it was he had offered to Yeshua).

And His disciple John reminded us that Yeshua said that His kingdom is not of this world - it is not part of the world secular and political order - in any age, prior to His return in power and glory.

Christians are not called by Yeshua to demonstrate their mercy and charity by giving the power and obligation to demonstrate their mercy and charity to government - whose hands are bound by who is in authority, and who is in authority over secualar government is not Yeshua.


145 posted on 02/02/2012 11:34:30 AM PST by Wuli
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Then I guess verses such as Psalm 139:13 should come into play when discussing legalized murder...aka abortion.

“For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb”


147 posted on 02/02/2012 12:12:11 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Sub-Driver; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

I just want to puke hearing him pontificating about what Jesus would do and using that to try to coerce people into submitting to HIM and his plans.

He’s using the tactic I’ve seen so often. Non-Christians have so little opinion of Christians and their mental facilities that they think if they invoke Scripture or Jesus or religion that Christians will just cave being terrified of going against something God would say.

They think that Christians are just sheeple who will follow any directive which references God without argument because heaven forbid someone should think that they’re not Christian because they don’t comply to a non-Christian’s opinion of what a Christian should think or act like.

Well, I have news for you, obama, I know a great deal more about what God thinks than you do and I am NOT being cowed by someone throwing around Scripture or Jesus’ name. You are no spokesman for God to tell me what He thinks of me and what I should do to please Him and I am not afraid of displeasing God by not listening to you, even if you do invoke His name.

Seems to me that someone there doesn’t understand what *Do not take the Lord’s name in vain * really means. It ain’t about cussing.


148 posted on 02/02/2012 12:12:50 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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A prayer breakfast which this Halfrican Muslim attended that did not include the phrase Allahu Akhbar was just a pretense. I heard this fake's words today on the radio. It literally emanated throught the radio, his lack of enthusiasm, spirit and truthfulness. He was mouthing the words, slowly. Almost as if he was begging Allah for forgiveness for 'speaking in the tongue of the infidels'....I didn't believe one goddamned word he spoke.
156 posted on 02/02/2012 12:36:42 PM PST by Gaffer
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Avoiding a phony religiosity??? LOL!

Jesus would not have taxed the rich. Jesus didn’t tell Zacheus to go back out and collect the money only from the rich.

Jesus never said anything about taking from one person to give to another and certainly would not have approved of the government doing so.


158 posted on 02/02/2012 12:44:14 PM PST by Eva
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Stop attempting to speak for our Savior, Obama. Speak for your pedophile prophet as you will, but keep Jesus out of it.

And while you’re at it, you POS... just knock off the al-taqqiya altogether.


159 posted on 02/02/2012 12:48:02 PM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.Oh, let me gues)
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Pilate would crucify the Messiah......


172 posted on 02/02/2012 2:08:23 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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God asked 10% from everyone and demanded that everyone pay their fair share-rich and poor.

Of course you don’t get that in the Koran I suppose.


178 posted on 02/02/2012 5:41:27 PM PST by HarleyD
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Years back I remember reading in the old testament, either proverbs or psalms, that if a rich man and a poor man go before the court and the rich mans cause is just, he shall be judged to his benefit....Paraphrased, maybe Quix can find it. He is a good source...


183 posted on 02/02/2012 7:33:42 PM PST by goat granny
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Mr. President, you continue to preside over the murder of millions of unborn every year and you lecture US about what Jesus would want?


198 posted on 02/03/2012 4:47:28 AM PST by libdestroyer
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This annoyed me to new heights. The twisted arrogance of this man! The equating of “wealthy people should be doing good things” with “wealthy people should be handing over 1/3 of their money to the government.”

This man simply must be defeated this fall. We can tolerate a slightly rino president, but 4 more years of Obama could end America as we know it.


200 posted on 02/03/2012 9:17:40 AM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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