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To: LibLieSlayer
You don’t have a problem with this judge’s legal reasoning?

Why would I? The plaintiffs agreed Obama was born in Hawaii. The judge agreed Obama was born in Hawaii. Therefore, the judge agreed that Obama was a Natural Born Citizen.

I've maintained the position for the past 3+ years that this "two citizen parent" so-called "requirement" is nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet. It has no basis in law or our Constitution and, as such, no court is going to buy it. In case after case after case, I've been proven correct. Nobody is buying this nonsense. Nobody.

I've further maintained that birthers are useful idiots who are actually helping Obama by deflecting attention away from his failed policies and making conservatism look like the abode of unhinged cranks and crackpot conspiracy theorists. They hurt Obama's legitimate opposition and when their absurd nonsense gets slapped down in court, I've got no problem with this at all.

72 posted on 02/06/2012 6:42:45 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
The plaintiffs agreed Obama was born in Hawaii.
You got real transcripts besides those that "Jack Ryan" posted at Scribd that had the "Friends of thefogbow" watermark on them? Got link?
I would like to see that.
76 posted on 02/06/2012 6:50:20 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Drew68
Hi Drew,

I am not a birther... never followed it any more than reading here on FR. Here is a bit of perspective from me. It does not matter what you or any other lawyer says... it no longer matters what our Constitution says... the Law is so corrupt and infected today that the US Constitution and case law says whatever any activist judge says it says and we have a SCOTUS that is so afraid of any case dealing with politics that they are basically castrated as an effective protection of our basic Constitutional rights. That my friend is a fact... so the law is whatever holder and a black robed terrorist says that it is.

LLS

193 posted on 02/07/2012 4:51:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Drew68; bushpilot1; sourcery; rxsid; Para-Ord.45; MamaTexan; Fantasywriter; GregNH; ...
Why would I? The plaintiffs agreed Obama was born in Hawaii. The judge agreed Obama was born in Hawaii. Therefore, the judge agreed that Obama was a Natural Born Citizen.

Again, not ALL of the Plaintiff's stipulated that Obama was born in Hawaii. ORLY stipulated that his place of birth was undetermined, and that no evidence to establish the truth was available.

The Judge's reasoning could be justified in light of the first two cases where they submitted that image file as "evidence" but Orly specifically argued that it was a forgery, and therefore not accurate. In the absence of a defense argument to the contrary, the Judge was wrong to use the "facts" of the first two cases to dismiss her evidence\argument in the third case.

I've maintained the position for the past 3+ years that this "two citizen parent" so-called "requirement" is nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet. It has no basis in law or our Constitution and, as such, no court is going to buy it. In case after case after case, I've been proven correct. Nobody is buying this nonsense. Nobody.

If you think this was made up during the past 3 years, then how do you explain the evidence, some of which stretches back centuries which shows that the two Parent requirement WAS a requirement? Evidence such as this: (Alexandria-Herald October 1, 1811- Purportedly written by James Madison.)

Are we supposed to have a time machine to insert stuff like this in history? I assure you, had we a time machine, we would have informed the founders of what sort of mess that people such as yourselves would create, and beg them to be more explicit in their writings, as if they were talking to mindless children, because THAT is exactly the sort of people that are arguing about this today!

Next time you repeat that "this "two citizen parent" so-called "requirement" nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet." Claim, I am going to call you a LIAR, and I am not going to stop calling you a LIAR. I will seek out your messages, and every time I see one, I am going to call you a LIAR and link back to this message that PROVES you have been informed and presented with evidence that your claim is wrong. Now you either prove this evidence is fraudulent, (I have more) or you shut up with that accusation against birthers!

I will grant you the benefit of ignorance this one time, but say it again, and I will be on you like stink on Sh*t. You have been informed. Ignorance will no longer be acceptable as a defense. It is past the point where we should no longer tolerate blatant lies.

Admin Moderator, I am asking for a ruling here. Regarding the repetition of a proven lie; I argue that such is not the type of conduct befitting a member of Free Republic, and ought to be grounds for dismissal. What say you?

228 posted on 02/07/2012 8:32:43 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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