Posted on 02/08/2012 8:10:19 AM PST by Jay777
ACLU: The American Civil Liberty Union announced today that President Obama’s decision to mandate coverage for birth control does not violate religious liberty. The ACLU’s Alicia Gay warns that the “powerful lobbying arm of the Catholic Church” mistakenly claims that the HHS contraception mandate violates their religious liberty.
Individuals who choose not to pay for employees’ contraceptives, the ACLU counters, are forcing their beliefs on their employees.
“The fundamental promise of religious liberty in this country doesn’t create a right to impose those views on others, including ignoring civil rights laws or denying critical health care,” Gay insists.
Somehow in the ACLU’s backwards world they think that the “wall of seperation” between church and state is only for the church to not infringe upon the government. It is laughable because the founder’s clear intent was to keep government out of religion. It isn’t shocking, they’ve held this belief forever. If an individual wants to mention Jesus in a graduation speech they think it is the beginning of the end, but government forcing a religion to violate its own beliefs is A OK with this dangerous organization.
(Excerpt) Read more at stoptheaclu.com ...
I cannot turn anywhere for “good” news anymore. Everything is just backwards, upside down, in your face, nastiness.
Let them try this with Islam, oh wait, Obama said
he’d side with them if the winds blew in an ugly
direction. I guess that would be towards freedom?
If the Church told folks to wear armbands that said “boobies” the ACLU would support them.
There are no polite words for this situation, nor are there prudent words. The federal government is no longer a government of the people, by the people, or for the people. The current administration disgusts me, and the ACLU is at least as bad.
the ACLU is run by folks who treat abortion as holy sacrament and have been at the vanguard of that and other progressive ideas since the inception and have carried a battle against the Catholic church..a VERY long time
is this a surprise?
occasionally the ACLU says something sensical...maybe once every two years or so
Obama, the Libs and the ACLU in their quest for divisiveness has somehow managed to unite their opposition. This really proves to me how stupid “smart” people can be. Attention to religious causes had been pushed to the forefront religious freedom not just Catholics but everyones. My pro-union neighbor is a practicing Catholic. He said he values God over all else and will not vote against his church. He told me this weekend he will not vote for Obama. I guess Obama underestimated how hard we cling to our guns and religion, his loss (literally) and overestimated his wonderfulness.
You always have to remember the Cosmic Battle -
the ACLU is the Anti-Christian Lawyers Union.
They are anti-Christ. They will use all avenues to destroy His Church.
Why would anyone expect the Anti-American Commie Lawyers Union to defend the Church from persecution in the first place?
From the article snip: “Individuals who choose not to pay for employees’ contraceptives, the ACLU counters, are forcing their beliefs on their employees.”
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Just...WOW!
“Individuals who choose not to pay for employees’ contraceptives, the ACLU counters, are forcing their beliefs on their employees.”
That is not true. They can pay for their own contraceptives. The employers do not have to SUBSIDIZE the employees beliefs.
I have had enough of the ACLU, it is time to look at every way possible to defund these idiots. Any Congressmen that won’t go on the offensive against the ACLU are subsidizing their beliefs.
Needs a ping-out!
I don’t know where this idea started, but the first that I remember, or am aware of, was with the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
At that time there were many people who believed, for religious reasons, that they should not associate with, rent to, etc., blacks, the sons of Ham. I won’t go into the theological details, for one reason I not knowledgeable about them.
The point is, wrong-headed at that theological position may have been, many people sincerely held them. Their first amendment rights were held secondary to the interests of the governments public policy preference.
Understand, I’m not defending their position, only the fact that their first amendment rights were violated. Not to mention property rights.
However, once the principle was established that sincerely held religious beliefs counted for nothing, it could easily be seen that something like this would eventually happen. Maybe not exactly what would happen, but that the camel would continue to ooze into the tent.
Was it worth it? In many ways, America is a far better country than it was in 1964. In other ways, not so much. You decide.
I would caution that this is not over. Obama and his people put a lot of thought into this. He first spoke of a "compromise" at his Notre Dame speech in 2009. He absolutely owns the media. Note on the Komen issue that national and local media reporters and anchors did not hold back on the tone of voice and facial expressions indicating their disgust at the Komen actions in cutting off Planned Parenthood.
Isn’t the ACLU just a branch of CAIR?
The Anti-Christian Lawyers Union never had anything to do with civil liberties. It was always about totalitarianism. They are totalitarians and all they do is done to support totalitarianism.
Its probably more true that CAIR is a branch and the ACLU are the communist roots.
I would caution that this is not over. Obama and his people put a lot of thought into this. He first spoke of a “compromise” at his Notre Dame speech in 2009. He absolutely owns the media.
I see your point, but I think he has raised a red flag that he cannot unraise. Every Christian who has been on the fence regarding Obama’s views on religious freedom (for all, not just Muslims) has just recieved their answer. Instead of taking this off the table, he implied he is willing to compromise? Compromise? There is no gray area on this one, either there is religious freedom without government interference or there isn’t. There is no compromise and the longer he fights this battle, the worse he will look. He is the only one who doesn’t know it (yet). Komen, on the other hand, is a secular institution not a religious one and planned parenthood is not the federal government.(even though it is as close as you can get)
“Individuals who choose not to pay for employees’ contraceptives, the ACLU counters, are forcing their beliefs on their employees.”
This is a more valid statement:
Individuals who force employers to pay for employees’ contraceptives, are forcing their beliefs on their employers.
It’s more valid because in the first instance as stated, the employer is not preventing the employee from doing something on their own that the employer doesn’t want (for whatever reason) to do for them, and in the second instance the employer is forced to do something the employer would not otherwise do.
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