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J.C. Penney CEO on Ellen DeGeneres controversy
CBS ^ | February 9, 2012 8:47 AM

Posted on 02/09/2012 6:56:53 AM PST by narses

(CBS News) J.C. Penney is trying to rebuild its customer base with help from a new spokeswoman, Ellen DeGeneres. But a group called One Million Moms is accusing the company of "jumping on the pro-gay bandwagon."

DeGeneres responded to the group on her TV show Wednesday, saying, "I'm happy about (being the spokesperson) J.C. Penney is happy about it. But there's this group called One Million Moms that is not happy about it. And normally I try not to pay attention to my haters, but this time I'd like to talk about it because my haters are my motivators. This organization doesn't think I should be the spokesperson because I am gay. So for those of you tuning in for the first time, I'm gay. I hope you were sitting down. ... So they wanted to get me fired, and I'm proud and happy to say that J.C. Penney stuck by their decision to make me their spokesperson."

In a statement last week, J.C. Penney said it stands behind its partnership the talk show host.

On "CBS This Morning," Thursday, J.C. Penney chief executive officer Ron Johnson, said the company "shares the same values" as DeGeneres and that the decision to have her as a spokesperson was a "no-brainer."

"We don't look at it like a controversy. One of the great things about America is people can speak their mind. And you know, the organization that believes one thing has spoken and it was great to see Ellen share her views yesterday. And we stand squarely behind Ellen as our spokesperson and that's a great thing. Because she shares the same values that we do in our company. Our company was founded 110 years ago on the golden rule, which is about treating people fair and square, just like you would like to be treated yourself. And we think Ellen represents the values of our company and the values that we share."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blunders; degeneres; homosexualagenda; jcpenney; retail
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To: DJ MacWoW

It has certainly invaded Republican thinking.


151 posted on 02/09/2012 11:59:29 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Not at all, I’m just pointing out a dichotomy, two mutually exclusive statements.


152 posted on 02/09/2012 12:00:52 PM PST by al44
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To: Grunthor; wagglebee; darkwing104; 50mm; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; Eaker; paulycy; ...


So long, Grunthor (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Wagglebee

Pro-death troll steps over the line with pro-pervert arguments, and that last straw gets incinerated along with him, leaving a smouldering pile of blackened bones





Clarify your thinking - are you pro life or not?


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

153 posted on 02/09/2012 12:03:12 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: BykrBayb

The Americans (I’m making an assumption here) on this thread who are objecting to those of us who are unwilling to sit down and shut up about JC Penney’s new spokesperson made a decision. They may well have been influenced by marxist propaganda, but it was still their choice to accept it.


154 posted on 02/09/2012 12:04:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: al44

Um, zotting someone from a private forum who’s espousing left wing views (pro-gay, pro-homosexual) is quite different that boycotting a department store who is advancing a political & social agenda.


155 posted on 02/09/2012 12:08:01 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: al_c
Good grief ... lots of twisting words going on in this thread.

Can't you tell when your're being baited? It's a way of life for certain ones.

156 posted on 02/09/2012 12:09:28 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Yeah, I know. But cheering a zot and then lamenting loss of free speech in the following post is inconsistent. I meant no offense, I guess my irony meter is too sensitive today.
157 posted on 02/09/2012 12:18:37 PM PST by al44
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To: narses

Glad to know it. I can now stop shopping at JCP because Degenerate’s “values” and mine aren’t compatible.


158 posted on 02/09/2012 12:20:31 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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To: Pappy Smear

Same goes for Paul Lynd! A great comic actor, probably gay, but the kind of guy you’d love to have a beer with. Ellen, on the other hand, I’m not such a fan. And I haven’t shopped at J.C. Penny in ages!

On the third hand, “To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar” is one of my favorite flicks!


159 posted on 02/09/2012 12:22:10 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: al44

Not really. Saying “good” hardly qualifies as “cheering”.


160 posted on 02/09/2012 12:22:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: al_c
Personally, I think Ellen is funny and I don’t have an issue with a company hiring her as a spokesperson. This is a free country, after all ... right?

That post right there says alot about why you think if Romney is the Nominee we need to vote for him.
161 posted on 02/09/2012 12:24:02 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: kcvl
QUOTE: “I didn’t come here to improve. I came here to transform. Every single leader in America... can create gradual results, but... how fast did you improve compared to someone else? You don’t fundamentally change your position in the marketplace.”

Sounds like that other Bozo who wanted to fundamentally change America. Lotsa luck, sucka.

162 posted on 02/09/2012 12:24:47 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: trisham

OK, then please accept my apology.


163 posted on 02/09/2012 12:26:27 PM PST by al44
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To: al44

Apology accepted.


164 posted on 02/09/2012 12:27:38 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CMAC51
I will allow God to deal with her sensuality. Meanwhile, I will try to learn kindness, generosity, honesty and respect for my fellow beings from her. If I learn from Ellen's strengths, then I will be the better Christian for it.

Well, isn't that special. Like a lot of head-in-the-sand "Christians," you don't seem to care how impressionable children and teens will be influenced by a major retailer's public endorsement of someone who practices distorted behavior.

165 posted on 02/09/2012 12:31:43 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: SoConPubbie

So what ... you’re going to start stalking now? You’re a real piece of work, dude.


166 posted on 02/09/2012 12:36:55 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: narses
JC Penney shares her values, eh?

Cool.

They just lost a life-long customer.
167 posted on 02/09/2012 12:39:23 PM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: al_c
So what ... you’re going to start stalking now? You’re a real piece of work, dude.

Wow.

I post to you on two threads and now I am a stalker?

Get a little thicker skin.
168 posted on 02/09/2012 12:42:38 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: trisham
Which is worse? Consumers telling a company that they won’t shop there any longer because of a controversial spokesperson, or a company firing an employee because they weren’t politically correct/liberal enough?

Hey ... comsumers voicing their opinions by no longer supporting a company is one thing ... and I'm all for it. But demanding that a company fire someone based on sexual preference is another. Twist this into something else all you want, but those are the facts of this story.

Do you think a company should fire someone because of sexual preference?

169 posted on 02/09/2012 12:43:08 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: TheOldLady

Blackened......very Cajun! Nom-nom!


170 posted on 02/09/2012 12:44:38 PM PST by LUV W (Unleash the American People!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Carry on.


171 posted on 02/09/2012 12:45:12 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: trisham

I see what you mean. I’m just not so sure they’re Americans. They don’t act like they want to be anyway.


172 posted on 02/09/2012 12:53:45 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: TheOldLady; wagglebee

Finally. He’s a liberaltarian/leftist combo sandwich.


173 posted on 02/09/2012 12:54:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: narses
Let JC Penney know what you think...
174 posted on 02/09/2012 12:55:06 PM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: al_c

I think you’re missing the point here. Imho, they hired her because of her sexual preference.


175 posted on 02/09/2012 12:57:21 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BykrBayb

Agreed.


176 posted on 02/09/2012 12:58:29 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Well some of us were cheering, even if we didn’t take the time to write it down. I love when trolls get zotted.

WOO HOO!!!!


177 posted on 02/09/2012 1:00:46 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: LUV W

Chow down, Viking Kitty!


178 posted on 02/09/2012 1:04:01 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: trisham

Then don’t shop there. That’s your right.


179 posted on 02/09/2012 1:06:17 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: DJ MacWoW
This thread illustrates why America is circling the drain. The left is VERY good a propaganda.

Such as this oft-repeated meme that conservatives want Ellen "fired", and that's not fair! WAAAAAAAAH!

The woman has a television show, royalties from other media she's been in, and a Cover Girl endorsement contract. She's hardly going to end up in the street with no milk for the baby if they simply do not hire her due to public backlash.

Or, as one of the other posters said, they should also hire Tim Tebow and someone Asian and someone black as spokespersons, and then it wouldn't be so obnoxious.

180 posted on 02/09/2012 1:06:37 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: al_c

who called for her to be fired?

No one I know of , I did however say that the left are much better defending their social issues than us on the right and for some to not even want to give up a show in TV is down right pathetic.

Not saying you either


181 posted on 02/09/2012 1:09:06 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: al_c

Are you from this country?


182 posted on 02/09/2012 1:09:06 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
I think you’re missing the point here. Imho, they hired her because of her sexual preference.

100% correct. Ellen is all about being an presentable manly lesbian. If she weren't, she'd be working in an office somewhere. Same schtick as Rachel Maddow.
183 posted on 02/09/2012 1:10:58 PM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: trisham

they call it unAmerican to hide the fact that they can;t be bothered for standing up for what they say they stand for.

Pathetic that men and women throughout history have given up lives defending for what they thought was right, the south the north, revolution etc and yet now we can’t even get some to give up a TV show or stop shopping at home depot.

it really is pathetic how some on the right are now and it shows how successful the left has become that they can silence people through PC and make them that lazy they cannot find another store to go to


184 posted on 02/09/2012 1:13:45 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: trisham
The Americans (I’m making an assumption here) on this thread who are objecting to those of us who are unwilling to sit down and shut up about JC Penney’s new spokesperson made a decision. They may well have been influenced by marxist propaganda, but it was still their choice to accept it.

No one is telling you to sit down and shut up. Free speech is a guaranteed right ... just as it is that a company has the right to hire who they please. Boycott them. Send them letters. Go for it. They'll more than likely ignore you. They have an agenda. But again ... they have a right to that.

185 posted on 02/09/2012 1:14:01 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: little jeremiah
I know! Wagglebee got to play with him for quite some time, but he never came around.

I've spoken to the zottee before on different issues, and he seemed all right. I guess not.
186 posted on 02/09/2012 1:14:53 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: trisham
The Americans (I’m making an assumption here) on this thread who are objecting to those of us who are unwilling to sit down and shut up about JC Penney’s new spokesperson made a decision. They may well have been influenced by marxist propaganda, but it was still their choice to accept it.

No one is telling you to sit down and shut up. Free speech is a guaranteed right ... just as it is that a company has the right to hire who they please. Boycott them. Send them letters. Go for it. They'll more than likely ignore you. They have an agenda. But again ... they have a right to that.

187 posted on 02/09/2012 1:14:53 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c

Try to be consistent.


188 posted on 02/09/2012 1:16:04 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: All

Oops. Sorry for the double post. Stupid “smart” phone.


189 posted on 02/09/2012 1:17:01 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Albion Wilde

too many not willing to make a stand on our side sadly, give them their Hollywood media stars, their TV shows and their magazines then they are all set.


190 posted on 02/09/2012 1:17:01 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: al_c

wouldn’t need to fire anyone if people stopped watching her show and stopped buying her product which in turn sends a message to other companies that pushing the queer agenda is not a good thing .


191 posted on 02/09/2012 1:18:12 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: al_c

and knowing this now will you watch her show and still buy the products she endorses?

If you say yes then you are just helping what you are supposed to be against.

If you say no due to you making a stand based on your conservative principles then respect


192 posted on 02/09/2012 1:19:52 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: trisham
Try to be consistent.

Huh?!

193 posted on 02/09/2012 1:21:04 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: EDINVA
Back in her Heche days, when she first came out publicly, Ellen DeGeneres was 24/7 in your face proclaiming her lesbianism. You couldn’t go to the supermarket checkout without seeing some loud headline featuring one or the other or both of them, mostly DeGeneres. She eventually cut back on that, but for a while it was beyond tiresome.

The tabloid coverage of Ellen was instigated and sustained by the tabloids. Though the headlines were about Ellen, they were not there at the behest of Ellen. Yes she had a relationship, but she was not doing anything to promote the headlines. People buying the tabloid rags were promoting it. I don't buy or read tabloids so I cannot testify to their content. However, since the time of her first sitcom, I cannot remember a single quote from Ellen that promoted homosexuality. I have heard her defend herself when attacked and answer questions honestly.

There have been no corresponding tabloids proclaiming DeGeneres’s kindness, generosity, respectfulness nor lovingness, casting her as a Latter Day Oprah.

Since when do tabloids proclaim postive behavior by anyone? The fact is that Ellen through her show and several other groups she is active in provide cars, appliances, scholarships, financial assistance and a host of other forms of assistance to single moms, down on their luck families, childrens charities and families of the military. Much of it is displayed on her show, but the majority of it is done behind the scenes. But who really cares, Ellen is gay, so Ellen is EVIL.

194 posted on 02/09/2012 1:21:43 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: al_c; DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; EDINVA
Do you think a company should fire someone because of sexual preference?

The trouble with leftist thinking is that it is math-impaired. Losing an endorsement contract opportunity when she already has a television show, royalties from past work and a make-up endorsement contract elsewhere is hardly like driving a minimum-wage worker out into the snow. Get some perspective.

The particular "job" she was offered was to use her personality and all it represents to attract the JCP shopper. The mall and the library used to be two of the safe places parents could let their impressionable teenagers go to in relative safety without a parent. Now, both are purveyors of degeneracy with a glossy sheen of PC all over it.

195 posted on 02/09/2012 1:22:17 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: manc
and knowing this now will you watch her show and still buy the products she endorses?

Please go back through this thread and read the posts. You've no idea what you're talking about. Read the rest of my comments and try again please.

196 posted on 02/09/2012 1:22:56 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: CMAC51

. I don’t buy or read tabloids so I cannot testify to their content


Since when do tabloids proclaim postive behavior by anyone.


you said those two comments in one post.

See what I am getting at.

Now will you be buying her products she promotes and will you still watch her show?

Or as a conservative and a republican will you now be boycotting all of what she promotes and her show?


197 posted on 02/09/2012 1:24:57 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: al_c; trisham; Dr. Brian Kopp; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
Free speech is a guaranteed right ...

No, it isn't. The government cannot infringe upon a person's freedom of speech, but private groups and individuals aren't bound by it.

They have an agenda. But again ... they have a right to that.

Guess what? Free Republic ALSO HAS AN AGENDA, so why are you and a bunch of trolls siding with the militant homosexuals who are trying to destroy Free Republic's agenda?

198 posted on 02/09/2012 1:25:30 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: al_c

asked you a question, it is really easy and you coudl have said yes or no instead of writing all of that so I’ll ask again/

and knowing this now will you watch her show and still buy the products she endorses?

simple yes or no


199 posted on 02/09/2012 1:26:12 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: manc
who called for her to be fired? No one I know of ,

Then you're not reading the news reports.

200 posted on 02/09/2012 1:26:22 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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