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911 IS A JOKE: Detroit citizens no longer rely on police as self-defense killings skyrocket (MI)
informationliberation.com ^ | 7 February, 2012 | MARA GAY

Posted on 02/09/2012 9:27:00 AM PST by marktwain

The people of Detroit are taking no prisoners.

Justifiable homicide in the city shot up 79 percent in 2011 from the previous year, as citizens in the long-suffering city armed themselves and took matters into their own hands. The local rate of self-defense killings now stands 2,200 percent above the national average. Residents, unable to rely on a dwindling police force to keep them safe, are fighting back against the criminal scourge on their own. And they’re offering no apologies.

“We got to have a little Old West up here in Detroit. That’s what it’s gonna take,” Detroit resident Julia Brown told The Daily.

The last time Brown, 73, called the Detroit police, they didn’t show up until the next day. So she applied for a permit to carry a handgun and says she’s prepared to use it against the young thugs who have taken over her neighborhood, burglarizing entire blocks, opening fire at will and terrorizing the elderly with impunity.

“I don’t intend to be one of their victims,” said Brown, who has lived in Detroit since the late 1950s. “I’m planning on taking one out.”

How it got this bad in Detroit has become a point of national discussion. Violent crime settled into the city’s bones decades ago, but recently, as the numbers of police officers have plummeted and police response times have remained distressingly high, citizens have taken to dealing with things themselves.

In this city of about 700,000 people, the number of cops has steadily fallen, from about 5,000 a decade ago to fewer than 3,000 today. Detroit homicides — the second-highest per capita in the country last year, according to the FBI — rose by 10 percent in 2011 to 344 people.

On a bleak day in January, a group of funeral directors wearied by the violence drove a motorcade of hearses through the city streets in protest.

Average police response time for priority calls in the city, according to the latest data available, is 24 minutes. In comparable cities across the country, it is well under 10 minutes.

Citizens like Brown feel they have been left with little choice but to take the law into their own hands.

The number of justifiable homicides, in which residents use deadly force in self-defense, jumped from 19 in 2010 to 34 last year — a 79 percent rise — according to newly released city data.

Signs that vigilantism was taking hold in the city came earlier, around Memorial Day 2009, when former federal agent Alvin Davis decided he’d had enough of the break-ins at his mother’s home on the east side. She called the police again and again, but the brazen robberies continued. Davis, then a 32-year-old Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer, snapped.

Prosecutors said he spent days chasing and harassing the teenagers who were allegedly robbing his mother, even shoving his federally issued firearm into one of their mouths. No one was killed, but by the time he was done, Davis had racked up charges of unlawful imprisonment and assault. In August 2010, he was convicted and sentenced to four years in prison.

But many residents in his mother’s Jefferson-Chalmers neighborhood are sympathetic to Davis, whose case is on appeal.

“He basically did what a lot of us wished we could do,” said Ken Gray, 58, who lives down the street from Davis’ mother.

One high-ranking official in the county legal system, speaking to The Daily, said the rise in justifiable homicides mirrors a local court system that’s increasingly lenient of the practice.

“It’s a lot more acceptable now to get your own retribution,” the official said. “And the justice system in the city is a lot more understanding if people do that. It‘s becoming a part of the culture.”

Detroiters are arming themselves with shotguns and handguns and buying guard dogs. Anything to take care of their own. And privately, residents say neighborhood watch groups in Detroit are widely armed.

“It’s like the militiamen who stepped up way back when. That’s where the neighborhood folks are," said James “Jackrabbit” Jackson, a 63-year-old retired Detroit cop who has patrolled the Jefferson-Chalmers neighborhood for years.

“They’re ready to fight,” Jackson said. “We don’t hardly see police anymore.”

The city’s wealthier enclaves have hired private security firms. Intimidating men in armored trucks patrol streets lined with gracious old homes in a scene more likely seen in Mexico City than the United States.

That kind of paid protection can run residents anywhere from $10 to $200 per month, and companies say business is good.

“We’re booming,” said Dale Brown, the owner of Threat Management Group, which along with Recon Security patrols neighborhoods like Palmer Woods in black Hummers.

“We’re paramilitary, but we’re positive. I’m not a vigilante. I’m an agent of change.”

The Detroit Police Department, grappling with deep funding cuts in a city with a spiraling budget crisis, acknowledges that response times are high and says it is working on a plan to lower them. But a spokeswoman for the department insists the rise in justifiable homicides is unrelated.

“It’s not about police response time because often the act has already taken place by the time the police are called,” said Sgt. Eren Stephens. She said citizens have a right to defend themselves.

“Anytime a life is lost, we’re concerned,” she said. “But we can‘t be on every corner in front of every home. And we know that there are citizens who will do what they have to do to protect themselves.”

That’s the terrifying position in which Kevin Early found himself in November when he was held up at gunpoint outside his home in the upper-middle-class Rosedale Park area. Neighbors called the police, but it was 25 minutes before an officer arrived.

Early, the director of the criminal justice studies program at the University of Michigan’s Dearborn campus, reasoned with the men for more than 20 minutes before he sensed they were about to shoot him in the head — then he ran. As his attackers fled in the opposite direction, neighbors emerged from the street’s stately homes with shotguns.

“All I could think of was my daughter coming home,” Early said. “I didn’t want her to see me shot dead.”

Weeks later, Early packed up his home and left Detroit. He hired Threat Management to supervise the move.

“Where else do the police come to your house after you’ve been robbed and ask you, ‘Why did you call us?’ ”

Mara.Gay@thedaily.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; democrats; democratutopia; detroit; mi
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

2nd Amendment supporters should make a series of “Mayhem” ads concerning self defense.

Like the Allstate Mayhem Ads.

“I’m a robber, and I have been casing your house all week long. Based off your Anti-Gun Bumper stickers and the City laws that prohibit you from owning a gun I am feeling really good about my heist tonight.”

[breaks into house]

“Even if you call 911 the cops are minutes away, which give me enough time to take all your valuables”

[Homeowner wakes up lights turn on]

Home owner: “Hey what are you doing?”

[Punching, Knifing and Gun Sounds]

“And even if you try to stop me I will always have the upper hand or knife or gun, because I am a Criminal and I don’t care if the Law tells me not to carry a weapon of my own]

[Outside with Bag Loot and Ambulance outside house with covered stretcher taken from house]

“So get your own gun for self defense, or be defenseless from criminal mayhem, like me”

[Mayhem laughs as he walk away]


41 posted on 02/09/2012 10:35:37 AM PST by GraceG
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To: marktwain

“Prosecutors said he spent days chasing and harassing the teenagers who were allegedly robbing his mother, even shoving his federally issued firearm into one of their mouths. No one was killed, but by the time he was done, Davis had racked up charges of unlawful imprisonment and assault. In August 2010, he was convicted and sentenced to four years in prison.”

Will Obama stand up for a “brother” and pardon this man? Fat chance. The big 0 is far too indebted to race hucksters and white liberals to do the right thing for anyone.


42 posted on 02/09/2012 10:44:18 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: grobdriver

Sadly, the citizens of Detroit have no one to blame for their circumstances but themselves. They are the people who voted corrupt Democratic politicians and labor union THUGS into power and kept them there for decades. This is the natural outcome of their choices. As for 911; all it is good for is to inform the police where to send the meat wagons to pick up the dead.


43 posted on 02/09/2012 10:44:34 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Jesse Jackoff, his white scum thug-loving sponsors and Hollywood sh!tbag supporters should be put against a wall, and SHOT.


44 posted on 02/09/2012 10:50:38 AM PST by Levante
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To: marktwain

It often seems that police are put on the streets to make it appear that things are under control, but that the real reason is to provide someone with a government job. What happened in New Orleans after Katrina provides a stark reminder of just how thin the long blue line is: cops in New Orleans abandoned their posts and joined the looters when things got out of hand. Better to have a gun and defend yourself.

“When seconds count, the cops are just minutes/hours/days away.”


45 posted on 02/09/2012 11:11:13 AM PST by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Daffynition

I really like XDs.


46 posted on 02/09/2012 11:19:13 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: marktwain
“I don’t intend to be one of their victims,” said Brown, who has lived in Detroit since the late 1950s. “I’m planning on taking one out.”

Hey, don't sell yourself short, granny! Put in some time at the range (or in an alley - doubt anyone would bat an eye in Detroit anyway) for some target practice, and see if you can take 3 or 4 of them out when/if you get the opportunity.

47 posted on 02/09/2012 11:21:26 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: marktwain

This is good.

It’s win-win-win.

Individuals take responsibility for their well being, perpetrators get hurt, sometimes permanently,
and hopefully citizens can realize some savings on overpaid, over-pensioned, over unionized police.

If this can work in Detroit, it will work better just about anywhere else.

How it works in most places now is the justice system pretends to punish, criminals pretend to be rehabilitated, and government employees and thugs get innocent peoples money by the bucketful.


48 posted on 02/09/2012 11:24:23 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Great link...and a well-stated fact of life.

How come LIEberals don’t know this? ///rhetorical :)


49 posted on 02/09/2012 11:34:48 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: 1rudeboy

My pistol coach sent me that image last week, and I don’t really know an answer...it was meant more to show me his new Springfield Armory XD. :)

It’s very cool! I’d love to have one!


50 posted on 02/09/2012 11:40:33 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: 1rudeboy

By dumb luck...I found it! $49.95

http://www.gumcreekcustoms.com/


51 posted on 02/09/2012 11:43:05 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: marktwain

I wish they would have given out the address of dear old Granny Brown, I would like to send her a couple of boxes of hollow points and my blessings.


52 posted on 02/09/2012 11:49:41 AM PST by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: RFEngineer

Meanwhile the criminals are left with two options if they want to continue living. Either fly right or head for a safer working environment (Chicago)


53 posted on 02/09/2012 1:25:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Damned if you do..die if you dont. I will take chances with a jury.


54 posted on 02/09/2012 2:18:53 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: marktwain
911 IS A JOKE: Detroit citizens no longer rely on police as self-defense killings skyrocket (MI)

This is not a new development.
What IS puzzling, is why did it take so long?

55 posted on 02/09/2012 2:30:24 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Publius6961
Copyright 1999


56 posted on 02/09/2012 2:40:59 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: cripplecreek
Its a good news story out of Detroit and it should be posted.

Yes it is good news. For the first time ever I almost feel like moving to Detroit. Houses are cheap, hunting is becoming popular, and it sounds like there is plenty to do after dark.

57 posted on 02/09/2012 2:44:51 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: Venturer
Would it be safe to say these people are protecting themselves from a certain ethnic population that is causing 90% of the problem?

A non-explanation, since 90% of the victims are of the same ethnic persuasion...

58 posted on 02/09/2012 2:49:05 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Daffynition

“It helps to understand the police are only janitors....there to write the report....after a crime is committed...........how often do they *prevent* a crime?”

You pretty much described the Hollywood precint close to us. They were literally 4 blocks away from the shooting and didn’t respond until an hour passed by.


59 posted on 02/09/2012 3:01:51 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: Daffynition; 1rudeboy
You can get them at Gum Creek Customs

I have one. I like it.

60 posted on 02/09/2012 3:05:29 PM PST by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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