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To: Right_in_Virginia

“Why is this a good thing? The only thing we really know for sure about him -— his unrelenting and often seen as sanctimonious pro-life social focus -— is precisely what will turn off the majority of Americans, particularly women.”

in other words, you hate him not because he’s a RINO but because he actually is a conservative. Gotcha.


44 posted on 02/10/2012 10:34:52 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom
Oh, for heaven's sake calm down. I don't hate anyone, including Santorum.

I don't want him to be nominated because he's a sure loser in November.Period. Really. Santorum won't even carry Pennsylvania. It's has nothing to do with hating him, I just want to be sure Obama’s voted out of office.

With Santorum as his opponent, Obama can work on his golf game.

And if you thought about this--strategically and not emotionally--you would agree.

But don't burn yourself out. This is a LONG process.

Thanks.

49 posted on 02/10/2012 10:42:09 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: ari-freedom

I find it continually amazing that people look at polls and think they are actually drivers of the election, or are dictates to us about what we have to do, rather than being a snapshot of what we have decided to do.

So Santorum is surging. That isn’t someone in a control room forcing us to accept Santorum as our candidate — it is a sign that, at the moment, people are deciding they could actually support him. THe voters being polled don’t seem to be turned off, as some other freepers have feared.

But if they are, it will show up soon enough. Let’s vet Santorum. Let’s find everything we can about him. If he survives, he can win. If not, Gingrich can rise again, if voters are willing to still support him. If not, it’s nothing WE did, it’s nothing the polls did, it is the CANDIDATES.

I don’t want to pick a conservative who can’t win. I certainly don’t want to pick a moderate who can’t win — I don’t really want a moderate who CAN win.

Can Gingrich win? Well, not if the voters won’t vote for him, and that’s what the polls suggest. Some though here seem to argue that it’s Santorum freepers that have somehow forced Gingrich to poll badly, and to lose votes.

I can guarantee them that if freepers could snap their fingers and elect a President, it wouldn’t be Santorum, and it certainly wouldn’t be Gingrich. It wouldn’t be Bachmann, or Perry, or Cain either.

These were the choices we had, not the choices conservatives would make if we didn’t have to worry about electability (or put more simply, the requirement that a candidate get a plurality of the votes, and win 270 electoral votes).


56 posted on 02/10/2012 10:50:13 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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